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kidcoelacanth posted:Horikoshi's art is so fr*cking good
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The Promised Neverland: http://readms.net/r/neverland/035/4185/1
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That addresses what previously seemed liked the biggest issue with Emma's plan, but now the really hard part begins.
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Apr 15, 2017 19:23
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I'm so glad Phil isn't a secret spy or something dumb like that.
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RatHat posted:I'm so glad Phil isn't a secret spy or something dumb like that. He is though. Emma's secret spy.
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Apr 15, 2017 23:48
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How did bakuman end? I stopped reading after they got into pitching a bunch of manga that went nowhere.
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Apr 17, 2017 10:37
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Alder posted:How did bakuman end? I stopped reading after they got into pitching a bunch of manga that went nowhere. They finally got an anime and then the MC's boring aspiring VA wife got to voice the lead heroine.
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Apr 17, 2017 13:59
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Alder posted:How did bakuman end? I stopped reading after they got into pitching a bunch of manga that went nowhere. Lets see what I can remember off the top of my head: After successfully pulling out of the gag comedy manga, the boys eventually got a new series published that was more darker and serious (so something along the lines of Death Note). It became super popular and got an anime greenlit, but because of how quickly it got greenlit Jump wanted to have them extend the series past the natural end point the boys envisioned. They protested against Jump and were successful in keeping the original ending they intended. On the MC's girlfriend side, she of course tries out for the role of the main heroine in the adaptation but is going against industry vets who are more likely to win the role. I don't remember how it came up, but eventually the terms of the MC's marriage proposal were made public. As a result, the anime studio decides to have the auditions live streamed and have the public vote on their favorite performance. MC's girlfriend wins the role and they both get married. EDIT: ^ Quicker summary.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:02
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The romance in Bakuman for the main couple was so god drat bad.
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Apr 17, 2017 14:05
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Wasn't the gimmick that they never ever interacted between their confession at the start and marriage at the end? A conceit that will surely make us care about the central romantic relationship of the series.
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Apr 17, 2017 15:06
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Pierson posted:Wasn't the gimmick that they never ever interacted between their confession at the start and marriage at the end? A conceit that will surely make us care about the central romantic relationship of the series. They meet face to face maybe 3 times over 200? chapters It's insane
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Apr 17, 2017 15:17
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The real romance was actually between boys and manga, with all the girls being side-chicks, so it's fine. edit; Bakumen had some WEIRD romantic sub-plots, if you could even call them romance. Like the woman who was thirsted over by the comic-relief lazy man and the fat man-child whose character arc was a line straight down basically, and the other main character who married his friend for errrrr reasons? Taxes or something? Pierson fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Apr 17, 2017 15:43
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didn't bakuman set up a young probably autistic manga savant as the main enemy? how did that get resolved
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TEENAGE WITCH posted:didn't bakuman set up a young probably autistic manga savant as the main enemy? how did that get resolved
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Apr 17, 2017 16:30
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Nate RFB posted:He turned out to be a p. cool dude. i knew that the love of manga would overcome all woes
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Apr 17, 2017 16:39
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They interacted but just through text messages
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Bakuman has some real capital-P Problems with the way its female characters were shown and acted and kind of brought the whole thing down for me. The manga parts - like where they were brainstorming and showing the mangas-within-mangas - were cool, but that undercurrent of misogyny left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
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Apr 17, 2017 17:50
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Does the mangaka for that series have the same problem with female characters for their other series?
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Apr 17, 2017 18:00
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Mraagvpeine posted:Does the mangaka for that series have the same problem with female characters for their other series? Going by what I remember of Death Note, yes. Misa quickly became Light's air headed minion, Light's sister's only role is to get kidnapped by Mello, the female FBI agent quickly gets killed off...I think the most competent female character is Light's stoic and very forgettable minion from near the end. I guess there's also Rem the lesbian shinigami, but I don't remember much about her either. I think she ended up dying for Misa?
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Apr 17, 2017 18:09
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That combo did Death Note which had like three female characters tops and some other stuff I've vaguely heard of, most of which is shounen. One of them is a woman though I think? Ignorance rather than malice maybe? I know nothing about the demographic trends of who reads Shounen Jump but I can't imagine authors who work primarily for young boys have any reason to learn how to write women or any compulsion to get better at it.
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Apr 17, 2017 18:13
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Pierson posted:Ignorance rather than malice maybe? I know nothing about the demographic trends of who reads Shounen Jump but I can't imagine authors who work primarily for young boys have any reason to learn how to write women or any compulsion to get better at it. I think this applies to like 95% of misogyny/racism, but that doesn't really make things any better.
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I haven't read Bakuman, so I don't know what exactly the capital-P-problems DrSunshine mentioned are (i.e. the specific flavour of misogyny), but the writer/artist team did two other things: Death Note and Platinum End. I didn't get far into Platinum End, but in Death Note women are either disposable pawns, or useless and easily tricked, or distressed damsels who are imprisoned and used to influence people. Or a combination of the three. So I'd say that it's probably the writer that has this kind of problems, since I don't remember other Obata (the artist) works having the same undercurrent.
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Your post made me start reading Platina End, which is o-k I guess. Better than the manga the Mirai Nikki guy did after that series, though that really really really isn't saying much. It's kind of a Death Note-y story. I never got into Bakuman and I can't quite tell by the posts talking about it if I should give it another shot or not. This is a pretty funny flashback for someone whose entire family got murdered though.  "Having fun, Mirai?" "Yeah! Of course I am, being with my family is the most fun ever!" 
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Apr 17, 2017 19:38
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Two more series were added to English Jump: We Never Learn and Robot x Laserbeam.
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Apr 17, 2017 20:01
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We Never Learn is a (lightning strikes in the distance, thunder rolls) harem series. Thus far it's fun and good though, the characters are interesting and not simply cardboard cut-outs put there to tick boxes on a checklist (which happens in many harem series). Robot x Laserbeam is by the Kuroko no Basket author. Only a handful of chapters are out so far, and it hasn't quite hit its stride yet. It'll be interesting to see how it develops.
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Kokoro no Basket guy is going to likely get longer than 11-12 chapters to make RobotXLaserbeam work. Well, I imagine. Gakkyu Houtei or whatever got axed pretty quick though- which was the Death Note artist IIRC.
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Mikl posted:We Never Learn is a (lightning strikes in the distance, thunder rolls) harem series. Thus far it's fun and good though, the characters are interesting and not simply cardboard cut-outs put there to tick boxes on a checklist (which happens in many harem series). It's alright for a harem series, though dark skin and glasses girl are both pretty common stereotypes (the former is a very typical "genki athletic girl" and the latter is a Yuki Nagato-esque "socially dumb" type character). Long hair is sort of like a mix between a "ditzy beauty" character and a yamato nadeshiko (though more the former than the latter). At the very least it's better than that other WSJ harem series with the ghost girl. edit: Probably my favorite recent example of a harem-ish shounen romcom is Masamune's Revenge, because 1. actual progress is made in a relatively timely manner and 2. the main character's gimmick is that he's actually good looking, so it comes off as less bizarre that girls are interested in him (and even then the series limits the number of girls who are clearly interested in him to like 3 or 4, only 2 of which are ever treated as serious contenders). I mean, I don't know if I'd go as far as to say that it's good, but I was at least able to read it, while I can't bring myself to read harem series that run for hundreds of chapters with zero progress/resolution. I also really dislike when the protagonist is a socially awkward reader stand-in (this is something We Never Learn is pretty good about; the MC is a decent looking guy who has some genuinely exceptional qualities, so it's not that unbelievable that some girls might be interested in him), so the few series that create believable romances gain some points in my book. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Ytlaya posted:At the very least it's better than that other WSJ harem series with the ghost girl. that one is just 'tits; the manga' though edit; if she's a ghost girl how does he grab em!? Pierson fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Pierson posted:edit; if she's a ghost girl how does he grab em!? I vaguely remember some other manga where this guy moves into an apartment with a ghost girl and they just gently caress constantly. In that manga she was semi-tangible; he could feel her but if he applied any real pressure he would pass through her.
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Being a ghost in anime sounds pretty cool so long as you're a shounen gently caress ghost and not some weird seinen blood monster.Ytlaya posted:I vaguely remember some other manga where this guy moves into an apartment with a ghost girl and they just gently caress constantly. In that manga she was semi-tangible; he could feel her but if he applied any real pressure he would pass through her.
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Apr 17, 2017 22:42
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Pierson posted:The real romance was actually between boys and manga, with all the girls being side-chicks, so it's fine. Good thing I dropped it then since the ending sounds so dull. Looking back DN and PE both were bad ideas that sounded cool but ultimately went nowhere fast. It's shame since the artist is extremely talented if only he could find a better author. There's a Kino's Journey manga out: http://reader.sensescans.com/read/kino_no_tabi/en/0/1/page/1 So far, it's following the anime/LN story but who knows if they will add new stories eventually too. Art is nice.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Two more series were added to English Jump: We Never Learn and Robot x Laserbeam. I am very happy to have these two, but I also really want to read Hungry Marie in there too. also Poro but between the five it is the one I am most willing to let go of. Give me all the manga, WSJ, but also thank you for giving me more manga already
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Ytlaya posted:It's alright for a harem series, though dark skin and glasses girl are both pretty common stereotypes (the former is a very typical "genki athletic girl" and the latter is a Yuki Nagato-esque "socially dumb" type character). Long hair is sort of like a mix between a "ditzy beauty" character and a yamato nadeshiko (though more the former than the latter). We Never Learn seems to be a little better as everyone isn't full-on lovey-dovey with each other. It seems like there's enough possibility for it to take a step back and just let everyone be good friends with the MC.
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Kuroyama posted:We Never Learn seems to be a little better as everyone isn't full-on lovey-dovey with each other. It seems like there's enough possibility for it to take a step back and just let everyone be good friends with the MC. Hahaha, no (unless you count "being in love but choosing not to act on it" as "being good friends"). Every single prominent girl in the series will end up in love with the protagonist, if they aren't already. I think the key to making this sort of manga (that is, harem manga that are intended to run indefinitely, like Nisekoi) work well is to make comedy a bigger element than romance. If romance is the focus, it becomes harder to tolerance there being zero progress towards a resolution, but if it's mostly focused on the gags it can work okay.
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Mikl posted:We Never Learn is a (lightning strikes in the distance, thunder rolls) harem series. Thus far it's fun and good though, the characters are interesting and not simply cardboard cut-outs put there to tick boxes on a checklist (which happens in many harem series). if swimmer girl doesn't win i'll, well, i'll be pissed
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Looper posted:if swimmer girl doesn't win i'll, well, i'll be pissed Well set phasers to "Pissed" because she's the intresting characer in a harem and she's not a complete write off of a human being and her motief is the Little Mermaid as if to say "Yeah, she ain't winnin'."
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Looper posted:if swimmer girl doesn't win i'll, well, i'll be pissed 70% chance long black hair wins, 30% chance glasses short hair wins. 0% chance anyone else wins. This is the result of my expert analysis.
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Swimmer girl fits the childhood friend flag. Until a girl who doesn't belong and does not have the traits the rest of the girls have its probably the childhood friend.
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Dexo posted:Swimmer girl fits the childhood friend flag. Swimmer is actually a bit atypical for a childhood friend love interest, who usually tend to be "normal" everygirl types. I don't think I've seen a tanned athletic genki girl character be the childhood friend before.
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