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Ras Het posted:This is because white people never bothered to nixtamalize the corn. It's a good example of how we take other cultures' foods without understanding their preparation at all. Another good example is people eating raw maca flour and then complaining of stomach aches Wikipedia posted:Maize was introduced to Europe by Christopher Columbus in the 15th century, being grown in Spain as early as 1498. Due to its high yields, it quickly spread through Europe, and later to Africa and India. Portuguese colonists grew maize in the Congo as early as 1560, and maize became, and remains, a major food crop in parts of Africa. Why mention "white people" specifically when neglecting nixtamalization seems to have been common to all areas outside the Americas where the crop was cultivated?
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Kopijeger posted:Why mention "white people" specifically when neglecting nixtamalization seems to have been common to all areas outside the Americas where the crop was cultivated? Adoption of the nixtamalization process did not accompany the grain to Europe and beyond, perhaps because the Europeans already had more efficient milling processes for hulling grain mechanically.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Odd, since the coffee plant is native to Ethiopia. Oh right, dug it up and it was just tobacco. Thanks!
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Apr 16, 2017 14:02
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MrNemo posted:I recall one of the recipes in that Roman cookbook was cakes meant to be baked for religious festivals. They were basically a dough sweetened with honey and a bay leaf then left overnight in an oven that had been used during the day and bake with the residual heat. Somebody inthread definitely made those and said they came out pretty well. I remember the pictures.
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Apr 16, 2017 20:30
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Ras Het posted:That's very zen of you, but in any case, my point wasn't remotely that I would rather live in whatever oldendayse century you want to choose, but that human society is irredeemably terrible and a lot of the comforts of our lives are actually insanely lovely things lol you drat retard
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Apr 17, 2017 01:38
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Ras Het is a depressed sigh that learned to post.
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Apr 18, 2017 07:01
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Some flamingo brains would perk him right up. It's the Roman way!
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Apr 18, 2017 07:24
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Some flamingo brains would perk him right up. It's the Roman way! Ugh. It's the tongue you want, not the brain, you barbarian.
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Apr 18, 2017 09:22
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Ras Het didn't say anything wrong.
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Grevling posted:Ras Het didn't say anything wrong. No. This: Ras Het posted:That's very zen of you, but in any case, my point wasn't remotely that I would rather live in whatever oldendayse century you want to choose, but that human society is irredeemably terrible and a lot of the comforts of our lives are actually insanely lovely things Is very wrong and stupid.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:02
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:No. This: Global obesity called but wouldn't leave a message, saying you'd know what it was talking about.
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homullus posted:Global obesity called but wouldn't leave a message, saying you'd know what it was talking about. Global obesity is a lot better than global starving to death.
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fishmech posted:Global obesity is a lot better than global starving to death. A > B. Is A a positive number?
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homullus posted:A > B. Is A a positive number? Would you eat the moon if it was made of barbecue spare ribs?
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Apr 18, 2017 15:12
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homullus posted:A > B. Is A a positive number? I mean whatever but SlothfulCobra posted:Ah, the quiet dignity of smallpox/starvation/getting mauled by a tiger. Ras Het posted:Sounds better than the abject horror of a plane crash/uhh, 21st century starvation/nuclear weapons/pizza, depression and TV induced heart failure at 34 so yes, they were in fact making the extremely stupid case
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Apr 18, 2017 15:17
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Isn't that the exact same case
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shut up The featured article on Wikipedia is a much expanded and well cited article on Roman-Chinese contacts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Roman_relations
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Grand Fromage posted:shut up I almost watched Dragon Blade, the movie where Rome fights china last night. I turned left at the last second but I assume it's mostly historically accurate?
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Ainsley McTree posted:I almost watched Dragon Blade, the movie where Rome fights china last night. I turned left at the last second but I assume it's mostly historically accurate? oh, extremely accurate
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Ainsley McTree posted:I almost watched Dragon Blade, the movie where Rome fights china last night. I turned left at the last second but I assume it's mostly historically accurate? Please don't troll.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I almost watched Dragon Blade, the movie where Rome fights china last night. I turned left at the last second but I assume it's mostly historically accurate? Only if China was ruled by a Pharoah and the Romans spoke with a Jersey accent. E: Belisarius vs Yue Fei, go.
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Apr 18, 2017 16:50
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I liked when the Parthians "riders of Rohan" the final battle between China/Good Romans/Huns/India against The Bad Romans sorry if this spoils the movie for anyone who was dying to see this
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Apr 18, 2017 17:24
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I liked when the Parthians "riders of Rohan" the final battle between China/Good Romans/Huns/India against The Bad Romans Alright now I want to actually watch it
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Apr 18, 2017 17:26
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I liked when the Parthians "riders of Rohan" the final battle between China/Good Romans/Huns/India against The Bad Romans The feuilleton called it a "cataphract of poo poo"
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Apr 18, 2017 18:12
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I liked when the Parthians "riders of Rohan" the final battle between China/Good Romans/Huns/India against The Bad Romans Well now I have to see this movie.
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Grand Fromage posted:shut up An angry patrician writes quote:Why the gently caress are we sending all of our specie east so our women can buy revealing clothes and baubles. O tempora, o mores &c.
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I just read the wikipedia summary for Dragon Blade, and I like that after his rival flees to central Eurasia, Consul Adrien Brody decides that the best course of action is to gather up 100,000 men and march after him for some reason.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:30
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Sounds like a true Roman film for true Romans.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:16
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Back to food. The idea of making some Roman foods sounds pretty interesting. Does anybody have any cookbooks that are authentic? Some quick Googling is giving me lots of Italian recipes or only delicacies like dormice and bird tongues.
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Apr 18, 2017 22:50
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I've often wondered what ancient wines would have been like.
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I have a reconstructed Roman cuisine cookbook in French but it's mostly "do a normal recipe and then pour nuoc-nam all over it". Disappointing.
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Grevling posted:I've often wondered what ancient wines would have been like. This is a starting point, I guess?
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I found a wine recipe for a mead called Joe's Ancient Orange Mead which is supposedly based on an old Norse mead, but I can't speak to it's authenticity.
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Hamlet442 posted:Back to food. The idea of making some Roman foods sounds pretty interesting. Does anybody have any cookbooks that are authentic? Some quick Googling is giving me lots of Italian recipes or only delicacies like dormice and bird tongues. In ancient Rome depending on who you were you were mostly either eating the crazy delicacies or a flavorless mush, just like the majority of societies that have ever existed.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:39
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Would you eat the moon if it was made of barbecue spare ribs?
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Hamlet442 posted:Back to food. The idea of making some Roman foods sounds pretty interesting. Does anybody have any cookbooks that are authentic? Some quick Googling is giving me lots of Italian recipes or only delicacies like dormice and bird tongues. Someone earlier in the thread linked Apicius, which is as authentic as it gets. Not much in the way of precise measurements so you'd need to play it by ear a bit, but it's something.
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Grevling posted:I've often wondered what ancient wines would have been like. There are some secluded areas in Europe that avoided the phylloxera blight and so still have native vines. Again, not exact, but the bottle I had was different though not cheap.
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HEY GAIL posted:without hesitation. why is this even a question? Those spare ribs would be unbearably dry.
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