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Regalingualius posted:What about Samlab 2021? "You want the beard on or off?" "Off" "... Too bad"
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You cant just call him "foolish" samurai. How would you like it if there was a good aku and everyone called you evil aku? There is a good aku?
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Apr 17, 2017 21:54
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Barudak posted:There is a good aku? This would be a good, and also very 90s cartoon theme for an episode.
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Apr 17, 2017 22:10
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Seems pretty obvious Jack's following Samurai Grim Reaper to take himself out of the picture, since he's snapped at the thought that his ongoing existence is causing net suffering because he'll never defeat Aku but by his struggling against Aku innocent people are being harmed. The whole "they chose their path" justification he used when fighting the Daughters has fallen apart as he's gotten to know Ashi and it's obvious they never really had a choice and then those alien children are forced to attack him too, whether they were actually alive at the end wasn't as important as the traumatic thought that he's the catalyst for their suffering. We saw the armoured suit guy explain they'd deliberately chosen to use children, knowing Jack wouldn't be able to fight back, so at least a few people have figured out Jack's real weakness by now. It's a little ironic that this is being done in Aku's name and Aku himself probably has no idea. He hardly even seems to care. Aku's evil empire is self-maintaining in a way that's somehow even more grinding than if Aku had personally directed these latest attempts to kill Jack. It sort of drives home the futility of Jack's resistance that he isn't even threatening Aku anymore. At the same time, Ashi is learning the opposite lesson, and by seeing the children survived (who obviously parallel her experience) then resistance against Aku is possible after all.
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Apr 17, 2017 23:26
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RareAcumen posted:Also also also also also also also also also also also also also! Ashi's kind of a work in progress case on getting deprogrammed on that whole 'Living weapon, kill the samurai' purpose. So after seeing the fuzzy blue monsters screaming in pain and every single one of them collapse it's not too much a stretch to think that she decided to kill them to solve the problem. I thought this was obvious, and definitely the first thing that popped into my head. Episode was still good, even if not as good as the first three.
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Apr 18, 2017 01:15
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Dolash posted:Seems pretty obvious Jack's following Samurai Grim Reaper to take himself out of the picture, since he's snapped at the thought that his ongoing existence is causing net suffering because he'll never defeat Aku but by his struggling against Aku innocent people are being harmed. The whole "they chose their path" justification he used when fighting the Daughters has fallen apart as he's gotten to know Ashi and it's obvious they never really had a choice and then those alien children are forced to attack him too, whether they were actually alive at the end wasn't as important as the traumatic thought that he's the catalyst for their suffering. We saw the armoured suit guy explain they'd deliberately chosen to use children, knowing Jack wouldn't be able to fight back, so at least a few people have figured out Jack's real weakness by now. This is a very good analysis, and puts Scaramouche casually destroying a village back in the first episode in a new light. Scaramouche even pointed out that the trick's been done before.
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Apr 18, 2017 01:53
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Barudak posted:You cant just call him "foolish" samurai. How would you like it if there was a good aku and everyone called you evil aku? it's the psychologist aku
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Apr 18, 2017 02:14
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I forget, did Jack look older at the end of the last series, when the guardian guy said he'd eventually go back to the past but not yet?
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Apr 18, 2017 03:21
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Yeah, he also had the beard, though he looks a bit more older with grey streaks in that picture.
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Apr 18, 2017 03:22
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Thinking back, the one thing that bothered me about this episode was Aku's voice. And not because of anything that Greg Baldwin did badly imitating Mako, but it seems like there's usually more of a echo-y effect when Aku talks but in this episode he's just... talking. Am I going crazy and (not) hearing things?
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Apr 18, 2017 04:53
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TwoPair posted:Thinking back, the one thing that bothered me about this episode was Aku's voice. And not because of anything that Greg Baldwin did badly imitating Mako, but it seems like there's usually more of a echo-y effect when Aku talks but in this episode he's just... talking. Am I going crazy and (not) hearing things? Yeah, for some reason, they seem to have dropped that this season (perhaps to further hammer in Aku's decline). It's not just you.
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Apr 18, 2017 06:16
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TwoPair posted:Thinking back, the one thing that bothered me about this episode was Aku's voice. And not because of anything that Greg Baldwin did badly imitating Mako, but it seems like there's usually more of a echo-y effect when Aku talks but in this episode he's just... talking. Am I going crazy and (not) hearing things? malaaaaaaaaise (its noticeably missing, i think it helps emphasize his general unmotivation in everything)
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Apr 18, 2017 06:36
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I would be very content to know that Aku only echoes through effort on his part.
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Apr 18, 2017 06:52
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I wasn't a fan of the Scotsman telling his girls to cover up. That's none of your beeswax, dad! It fit his character though. And he got lasered.
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Apr 18, 2017 10:46
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For reasons completely unrelated to the next episode promo, I'd like to post this.
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Apr 18, 2017 10:52
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Also, this is who Jack was, and who he still is, and what I expect the next episode or two to try to show us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bhMQ7U_Ysg We (and Jack, and Ashi) will see precisely why Jack's fight wasn't futile, and why Jack must go on.
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Apr 18, 2017 12:10
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evilmiera posted:I wasn't a fan of the Scotsman telling his girls to cover up. That's none of your beeswax, dad! I thought it was lame but he immediately clarifies that they'll catch a cold, not that they're showing too much skin, so I think it's endearing/doting instead of sexist.
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Apr 18, 2017 12:26
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Bust Rodd posted:I thought it was lame but he immediately clarifies that they'll catch a cold, not that they're showing too much skin, so I think it's endearing/doting instead of sexist. Says the guy rolling around in a wheelchair like Mr Plinkett, arms exposed and everything. But yeah, it wasn't awful, just weirdish.
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Apr 18, 2017 12:29
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I for one appreciate the idea that the Scotsman's take on fighting Aku was to literally build an army. It's funny if you imagine that siring a hundred daughters is what put him in the wheelchair, not fighting robots.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:12
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It's an incredibly Dad thing to do, with the added joke that he's being protective even as they're about to battle an evil god. Scotsman obviously trusts his daughters' combat capacity, but they're still his children and he's gonna nag 'em.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:20
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I just had a for-real LOL thinking about a hundred thick scottish women's accents as they ruthlessly tease all the herculoids for "dwivin' their wee leetle trucky-wuckies to the big ol' fight" while Scotsman looks on with unfathomable pride. The Dad stuff in this season is paramount, because I think ultimately Ashi's transformation hinges on Aku being a bad father to her, as opposed to being the actual living incarnation of evil, sorrow, and despair. If she had even one memory of Aku thatwas happy, this wouldn't be so cut-&-dry.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:40
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Das Boo posted:It's an incredibly Dad thing to do, with the added joke that he's being protective even as they're about to battle an evil god. Scotsman obviously trusts his daughters' combat capacity, but they're still his children and he's gonna nag 'em. Scotsman's entire culture is based around strength, insults and constant quibbling. So of course he's going to find something to complain about for his army of badass warrior daughters. They'd probably be disappointed if he didn't. Even in his last living moments and probably well past 80, Scotsman went out like the badass he is. And now he's a force ghost.
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Apr 18, 2017 15:46
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Bust Rodd posted:The Dad stuff in this season is paramount, because I think ultimately Ashi's transformation hinges on Aku being a bad father to her, as opposed to being the actual living incarnation of evil, sorrow, and despair. If she had even one memory of Aku thatwas happy, this wouldn't be so cut-&-dry. c'mon now do you have any idea what it's like to pay child support to an entire generations-old cult
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Apr 18, 2017 17:38
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Is it wrong that I find it kinda funny that Ashi's upbringing was so strict that even her delusion-mom barely tried to get her back on track before calling her a failure and leaving?
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Apr 18, 2017 17:59
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Ashi's going to dramatically confront Aku and he's not even going to know who she is. "I grew up in an evil cult of Aku, dedicated to destroying The Samurai" can hardly be news.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:04
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wiegieman posted:Ashi's going to dramatically confront Aku and he's not even going to know who she is. "I grew up in an evil cult of Aku, dedicated to destroying The Samurai" can hardly be news. "Huh? Which one? There's been SO MANY these long years."
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Apr 18, 2017 18:07
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Apr 18, 2017 18:40
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I never played it, is this actually from the PS2 game?
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Apr 18, 2017 18:42
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my dad posted:Also, this is who Jack was, and who he still is, and what I expect the next episode or two to try to show us: I think you're spot on with this. The show definitely seems to be building us up for a moment where Jack has to be convinced that even though innocents have suffered due to his struggle with Aku, many more have been inspired to rise up and fight back as best they can.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:42
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mycot posted:I never played it, is this actually from the PS2 game? All signs point to yes.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:27
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Nemo2342 posted:I think you're spot on with this. The show definitely seems to be building us up for a moment where Jack has to be convinced that even though innocents have suffered due to his struggle with Aku, many more have been inspired to rise up and fight back as best they can. Just look at how much he "inspired" The Scotsman and his wife.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:41
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Nemo2342 posted:I think you're spot on with this. The show definitely seems to be building us up for a moment where Jack has to be convinced that even though innocents have suffered due to his struggle with Aku, many more have been inspired to rise up and fight back as best they can. Oh man it would be so cool if Ashi meet up with Jack with all the people who he saved, and they have a little get together or something. J.A.B.C. posted:In what way? This last episode was kinda on the nose, but it wasn't what I would call bad, even compared to the previous episodes. I didn't mind the last episode but it definitely had a noticeable difference in storytelling. The first three episodes had a lot of metaphoric moments that really made it feel magical. For example the lighting bug slowly following the warriors and Jack. The metaphor with the wolf's journey and Jack's journey. For the first (four in my opinion) episodes it seemed like each one tried out a new technique in animation, a new way to tell the story. A fight in black and white using the light of the weapons to show you what was going on. Another fight took place in the snow where you couldn't tell what was in the foreground/background. The fourth one was just gorgeous, while not having much plot movement god-drat was it beautiful. The fifth one, I think the main difference, is the animation was more used as a tool to tell the story rather than having the animation be part of the story. Or rather it was all face value, there was no metaphor or scenes that were used in a way to suggest any kind of weight in a unique way (for example instead of having Jack say I feel bad for murdering those people, the series has a murder of crows yelling murder at him). It's that kind of poetry that was kind of missing from this episode, which is alright. Don't get me wrong I liked this episode especially for the Scotsman part and kind of a little sad that he didn't get more screen time. Someone pointed out that the kids being controlled were very similar to the daughters of Aku, and I'll admit I see it just for some reason it doesn't hit me in the same way the murder of crows hit me. The original series did have moments of a very a to b storytelling style and other moments where it expected it's audience to have patience and pay attention visually, while I prefer the latter it would be wrong of me to say that Samurai Jack isn't a mix up of both.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:50
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Gynovore posted:IMHO the last two episodes were good but not as mega-awesome as the first ones. I guess the initial momentum is wearing off. Nude posted:Oh man it would be so cool if Ashi meet up with Jack with all the people who he saved, and they have a little get together or something. That's kind of my opinion on the episode. I mean, the first four were really, really powerful in terms of visual storytelling that this one kind of falls short in that department. It still builds on the world and shows Ashi as a childish figure trying to grow out of her preconceptions, but there was bound to be a downward trend sooner or later. I was directly addressing a goon acting especially goon-ish by declaring that he'd stop watching the show because he thought the episodes were just that bad. I don't see Ep. 5 as a dealbreaker in all honesty, and Ep. 4 was a fun and colorful episode about an angry baby and a suicidal dad escaping a giant fishmonster. It's still quite a bit ahead of many other shows, and wanted to know why he thought these last two episodes were that bad. Hence, why I brought up that video with the Room. There's neat stuff in there, but the whole thing is kind of poo poo. This is sort of the opposite, where there's some poor stuff but overall it's been really well done and fun to watch.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:16
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In the future I'll want to go back and watch the first four episodes again, even just each one on its own. I don't really care to watch the fifth episode again, ever. Still really looking forward to the rest of the series.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:48
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please listen to my opinion!!
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Apr 19, 2017 01:36
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So, is it just me, or did they very conspicuously not show Ghotsman's legs during that brief snippet we got to see of him?
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Apr 19, 2017 01:57
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Ghosts don't have legs. That's silly.
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Apr 19, 2017 02:41
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Waffleman_ posted:Ghosts don't have legs. That's silly. Is that why they keep stripping Jack down to his skivvies every episode so that way we know for sure he isn't a ghost underneath the white robe of his?
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Apr 19, 2017 03:02
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It's that insidious Female Gaze that creeps into every show
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So did they say if this season's going to conclude the entire thing? Like will the Guardian and that one other time portal come up or is it assumed that it was also destroyed by Aku and hence the guardian too
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