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cheetah7071: Oct 20, 2010; honk honk; College Slice

Actually triple maul doesn't adequately represent just how much maul the dark maul has. Quadruple maul or bust.

# ? Apr 17, 2017 21:59

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# ? May 31, 2024 13:53

Internet Kraken: Apr 24, 2010; slightly amused

All of Yiuf's hammer got glued together to create the Dark Maul.

# ? Apr 17, 2017 23:35

Prism: Dec 22, 2007; yospos

cheetah7071 posted:

Actually triple maul doesn't adequately represent just how much maul the dark maul has. Quadruple maul or bust.

Mega-maul. Multi-maul?

# ? Apr 18, 2017 00:15

Decrepus: May 21, 2008; In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.

cheetah7071 posted:

Rename tridents triple spears

# ? Apr 18, 2017 00:23

Sojenus: Dec 28, 2008

please display "Double Fist" as your weapon when fighting unarmed with no shield

unrand request: Fisting Amulet, adds extra auxiliary punch, display changes to "Triple Fist"

# ? Apr 18, 2017 01:18

tote up a bags: Jun 8, 2006; die stoats die

You very carefully wield the triple trident

(Its thee tridents stuck end to end to make one super long trident)

# ? Apr 18, 2017 01:31

Prism: Dec 22, 2007; yospos

tote up a bags posted:

You very carefully wield the triple trident

(Its thee tridents stuck end to end to make one super long trident)

Tie a spear to each of the tines of a trident.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 01:33

Samog: Dec 13, 2006; At least I'm not an 07.

Pike weapon that is two handed and has less damage than you would expect from its skill requirement, but reaches over an extra tile

# ? Apr 18, 2017 03:21

Araganzar: May 24, 2003; Needs more cowbell!; Fun Shoe

Samog posted:

Pike weapon that is two handed and has less damage than you would expect from its skill requirement, but reaches over an extra tile

But the quintuple trident

already has reaching 2!

I just got one in my game...

Too bad I'm a caster or I'd try it out. Might be worth it if I get some summons...

edit: also I have Staff of Olgreb and Vehumet gave me Ignite Poison
:feelsgood:

Araganzar fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Apr 18, 2017

# ? Apr 18, 2017 04:00

Yngwie Mangosteen: Aug 23, 2007

If that is real, I take back everything bad I said about the devs and formally apologize for everything.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 04:54

Darox: Nov 10, 2012

That's a fake.

The quintuple trident only appears on a specific unique, just like Tiamets cloak or Cerebovs sword. You have to kill the boss of the Cigotuvi's Metalworks wizlab, it'll never spawn in the wild. Given how rare wizlabs are and how many possible wizlabs you can roll you will almost never see it ingame.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:08

Internet Kraken: Apr 24, 2010; slightly amused

It is awesome when you get it though. A weapon with 5 different brands is always useful.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:13

World Famous W: May 25, 2007; BAAAAAAAAAAAA

Darox posted:

Given how rare wizlabs are and how many possible wizlabs you can roll you will almost never see it ingame.

Add 'Portal' to scrolls of acquirement that take in consideration amount of dungeon branches seen to create a suitable timed portal. Kinda of like the trowel card but only for death traps full of loot.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:16

LazyMaybe: Aug 18, 2013; oouagh

Carcer posted:

Depending on who you ask anything related to the crusades could be as bad as jihad, so the shining one needs a bit of scrubbing.

the crusades are not anywhere near as relevant to modern people as the concept of "jihad" is so not really, unless by "depending on who you ask" you mean digging up this dude

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:24

Darox: Nov 10, 2012

This reminds me that not all of the wizlabs are associated with an artifact. A lot of them do have one like Zunguldrok, Wucad, quintdent, moon troll etc, but not all. It'd be cool if they had their own artifacts, it's a little disappointing when the big reward of Doroklohe's Tomb is just a scroll of acquirement.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:27

World Famous W: May 25, 2007; BAAAAAAAAAAAA

Add Holy Grail evocable that either full heals you or instagibs. Evoc 27 reduces death chance to only 1 percent. :unsmigghh:

Also, stop complaining about Zealot sword being new name. It was a good change.

World Famous W fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Apr 18, 2017

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:31

Yngwie Mangosteen: Aug 23, 2007

Darox posted:

That's a fake.

The quintuple trident only appears on a specific unique, just like Tiamets cloak or Cerebovs sword. You have to kill the boss of the Cigotuvi's Metalworks wizlab, it'll never spawn in the wild. Given how rare wizlabs are and how many possible wizlabs you can roll you will almost never see it ingame.

Ugh.

Guy making gooncrawl with interesting stuff, you should guarantee a wizlab before d15 every game or something. Its a lot of content that just remains inaccessible due to rng and thats a really weird design choice.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 05:35

Sage Grimm: Feb 18, 2013; Let's go explorin' little dude!

All weapons are now relabelled swords. Clubs are blunt wooden swords. Tridents are triple pole swords. Giant spiked clubs are giant wooden sword trees.

Also holy poo poo quintuple trident I didn't even know that was a thing!

# ? Apr 18, 2017 06:00

Samog: Dec 13, 2006; At least I'm not an 07.

World Famous W posted:

Also, stop complaining about Zealot sword being new name. It was a good change.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 06:20

Cerepol: Dec 2, 2011

YAVP

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BaBe's are rad and cool, I thought froggys would be boring based on what I read but the actual race is interesting to play. Gotta take it safe and slow to combat that 1.2 speed yet the extra LoS was really nice for that extra tile between you and whatever you just saw. The good apts are cool (though I never got to cast, thats my next one!). Overall it was fun and an anti-magic sword really does chump a large amount of later baddies. Its hard to malmutate me when ya got no mana!

First web win anyways and it feels real good.

I've got to thank this thread for finally making me really slow the gently caress down and not just speedrun my way to death.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 06:40

a star war betamax: Sep 17, 2011; by Lowtax; Gary’s Answer

Jihad just means Holy war so I'm not sure why they think it's a cuss word that needs to be erased from the game.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 08:28

World Famous W: May 25, 2007; BAAAAAAAAAAAA

Context is hard.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 08:53

Carcer: Aug 7, 2010

IronicDongz posted:

the crusades are not anywhere near as relevant to modern people as the concept of "jihad" is so not really, unless by "depending on who you ask" you mean digging up this dude

I'm not going to go find examples of it but crusades imagery has been massively taken up by white supremacist groups, so I probably don't need to dig up a fictional character and just go find someone who's studied, or experienced, those groups.

I don't think this thread is necessarily the place to argue about this but if the sword's name was changed because it links with modern examples of extremism then I think my point is valid.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 08:57

Can Of Worms: Sep 4, 2011; That's not how the Triangle Attack works...

Trunko posted:

Jihad just means Holy war so I'm not sure why they think it's a cuss word that needs to be erased from the game.

Well, for starters, Jihad doesn't actually mean holy war.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 09:49

a star war betamax: Sep 17, 2011; by Lowtax; Gary’s Answer

The pure sword of the Third Reich

# ? Apr 18, 2017 10:41

Ramc: May 4, 2008; Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

World Famous W posted:

Also, stop complaining about Zealot sword being new name. It was a good change.

The (((Sword)))

# ? Apr 18, 2017 11:50

Yngwie Mangosteen: Aug 23, 2007

The (Zealot) Sword (of Jihad) is one of those weapons I always wanted to get, but it never really drops when you have a character who'll really want to use it. Is there a place where you can see drop percentages for unrandarts? The cool flavor stuff is a pretty big draw for a lot of people, so it'd be interesting to see just how rare it actually is.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 19:54

Samog: Dec 13, 2006; At least I'm not an 07.

if there is an actual problem with the #1 good guy god's super strong holy artifact having "jihad" in the name, it is probably the fact that someone gave it "This blade is notorious for inducing bloodthirsty rage in both the wielder and all of his or her mortal followers" as flavor text

# ? Apr 18, 2017 22:02

LazyMaybe: Aug 18, 2013; oouagh

well, also that's the actual gameplay function of the weapon not just the flavortext

# ? Apr 18, 2017 22:05

Samog: Dec 13, 2006; At least I'm not an 07.

if you want to cast the effect of the weapon in a different light it is extremely easy to do so

# ? Apr 18, 2017 22:11

Internet Kraken: Apr 24, 2010; slightly amused

This might be the dumbest thing I've seen argued about in this thread.

# ? Apr 18, 2017 22:18

LogicNinja: Jan 21, 2011; ...the blur blurs blurringly across the blurred blur in a blur of blurring blurriness that blurred...

So, uh, I just ran into four skeleton warriors just chilling on D:*6*.

The gently caress.

# ? Apr 19, 2017 00:29

Nuclearmonkee: Jun 10, 2009

LogicNinja posted:

So, uh, I just ran into four skeleton warriors just chilling on D:*6*.

The gently caress.

Running to the stair was bad play and you should have been punished for it imo

Or did you die? If you died thats ok

# ? Apr 19, 2017 00:31

Cerepol: Dec 2, 2011

Nuclearmonkee posted:

Running to the stair was bad play and you should have been punished for it imo

Or did you die? If you died thats ok

Well you see it's interesting gameplay with choice because now you can choose a new combo

# ? Apr 19, 2017 00:49

Araganzar: May 24, 2003; Needs more cowbell!; Fun Shoe

Nuclearmonkee posted:

Running to the stair was bad play and you should have been punished for it imo

Or did you die? If you died thats ok

Oh poo poo dude he ran now they're bezotted. Nice triple sword of vamp though.

I don't usually comment on OODs but a skeletal warrior pack on D6 is just stupid.

# ? Apr 19, 2017 00:52

LogicNinja: Jan 21, 2011; ...the blur blurs blurringly across the blurred blur in a blur of blurring blurriness that blurred...

Good news guys, the game still has Fun.

quote:

the cursed +0 pair of gloves of Fun {*Corrode rPois rC+ Str+4}

# ? Apr 19, 2017 01:07

Araganzar: May 24, 2003; Needs more cowbell!; Fun Shoe

LogicNinja posted:

Good news guys, the game still has Fun.

Yeah thanks, your fukken ghost just showed up in my DrFE game with that triple sword of antimagic.

# ? Apr 19, 2017 02:27

apple: May 18, 2003; Jose in the club wearing orange suspenders

Speaking of ghosts, there's some batshit insane ways to avoid dealing with ghosts (taken from tavern):

quote:

<mibe> hey if you guys are sick of dealing with ghosts check this out
<mibe> ??shaftrobi
<Sequell> shaftrobi ~ shaftrobin[1/2]: An account that automatically selects formicid and has shaft macro'd to 1. Hold down 2 to die. Use it before playing when you dont want to see any ghosts!
<mibe> i only set up the rc and macros for cbro atm
<mibe> for best results run it several times each time you are about to descend to a new D level
<yesno> lol
<yesno> ridiculous
<mibe> !lg shaftrobin x=avg(dur)
<Sequell> 25 games for shaftrobin: avg(dur)=0:00:53
<mibe> takes under a minute
<yesno> i know but just ridiculous that ghosts exist
<mibe> i agree
<yesno> and are so bad that you did this thing
<mibe> its 100% ridiculous that shaftrobin is possible
<yesno> yes
<mibe> i dont believe any positive that ghosts bring to the game can be greater than these metagaming implications
<rumflump> mibe: I have been pondering further automating it. so that you can play your normal game in one window, then log shaftrobin in the other window and have it do a run

quote:

But wait, there's more!
code:
!lg * day s=src place!=d:1, d:2
<Sequell> 794 games for * (day place!=d:1, d:2): 222x cbro, 191x cwz, 161x cao, 88x cue, 63x cxc, 40x cjr, 24x cpo, 4x cdo, lld
ie, dont play on cbro, cwz, cao, if you want to minimize your chances of seeing a ghost.
code:
!lg * day s=cv place!=d:1, d:2
<Sequell> 797 games for * (day place!=d:1, d:2): 550x 0.20-a, 233x 0.19, 7x 0.17, 4x 0.11, 0.10, 0.16, 0.18
consider playing 0.19 instead of 0.20 trunk, its less that half as popular.
code:
!lg * day place!=d:1, d:2 s=nhour(end)
<Sequell> 798 games for * (day place!=d:1, d:2): 51x 14, 44x 1, 42x 5, 40x 16, 39x 21, 39x 15, 38x 3, 37x 18, 37x 17, 36x 6, 35x 19, 34x 20, 32x 2, 32x 9, 32x 8, 31x 13, 28x 22, 27x 12, 27x 11, 25x 10, 25x 7, 25x 0, 23x 23, 19x 4
dont play between 14:00 and 20:00 GMT, or 1:00 and 6:00 GMT

I'm sure someone better at sequell or math can refine these queries, but I hope I have gotten my point across.

If you aren't querying sequell to decide when and where to play, or using shaftrobin, and then run into a dangerous ghost, you could have prevented it.

-edit- whoops, my queries only return games from d:2! even though my queries are flawed, i still think my point stands!
code:
!lg * day s=nhour(end)
4657 games for * (day): 252x 16, 247x 21, 246x 14, 243x 1, 236x 20, 234x 18, 232x 3, 226x 15, 205x 17, 203x 19, 190x 13, 185x 8, 180x 11, 177x 2, 177x 22, 176x 12, 174x 9, 171x 0, 166x 23, 159x 10, 156x 4, 144x 7, 140x 6, 138x 5
!lg * day s=src
4662 games for * (day): 1304x cbro, 1102x cwz, 991x cao, 533x cue, 430x cxc, 158x cjr, 109x cpo, 18x cdo, 17x lld
!lg * day s=cv
4664 games for * (day): 3264x 0.20-a, 1329x 0.19, 28x 0.17, 19x 0.18, 9x 0.16, 5x 0.11, 3x 0.10, 2x 0.15, 2x 0.12, 0.17-a, 0.13, 0.19-a
pretty similar conclusions anyways, just the specific times are different.

# ? Apr 19, 2017 03:23

Ramc: May 4, 2008; Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

apple posted:

Speaking of ghosts, there's some batshit insane ways to avoid dealing with ghosts (taken from tavern):

# ? Apr 19, 2017 04:04

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# ? May 31, 2024 13:53

Ramc: May 4, 2008; Bringing your thread to a screeching halt, guaranteed.

Realtalk that is some peak HAM.

# ? Apr 19, 2017 04:05

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