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BobHoward posted:I found this: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/motor-sports-executive-lands-in-jail-for-posting-funny-clip-online/article5056363.ece I like jurisdictions where the truth is a defence to charges of defamation.
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I get that the small numbers they're saying ("four left into three right") are some kind of scale for the sharpness of the turn, but what are the large ones where they say stuff like "two left fifty, then hundred and fifty into four right?" Desired speed for the section in km/h? Distance between turns in meters?
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Apr 18, 2017 06:53
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You do not tell me drat right!
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Apr 18, 2017 07:18
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https://giant.gfycat.com/CloseElaborateBorer.mp4
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Apr 18, 2017 07:29
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Sagebrush posted:I get that the small numbers they're saying ("four left into three right") are some kind of scale for the sharpness of the turn, but what are the large ones where they say stuff like "two left fifty, then hundred and fifty into four right?" Desired speed for the section in km/h? Distance between turns in meters? The small numbers are how severe the corner is, though there's actually some variation there - whether you use a big number to mean you can go faster (i.e. a more gentle curve), or a sharper turn. So you need to know which they're using to know whether a 2 or a 4 is sharper. The large numbers are the distance between them or the distance to the corner, generally metres/yards. Normally "into" or "and" is where things are linked together in close proximity, so no point having a distance. You'll also get things like "flat" (you can go flat out), "tightens", "crest" and so on, most of which are relatively self explanatory.
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Apr 18, 2017 09:01
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Platystemon posted:I like jurisdictions where the truth is a defence to charges of defamation. I am truly surprised that it wasn't Sammy that brought the lawsuit.
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Apr 18, 2017 09:40
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InitialDave posted:Ok, not my area, but If I'm rememberign right: So the distance measure might be yards or meters depending on what's most natural to the driver.
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Apr 18, 2017 10:00
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Theres also lingo for the bank angle of the road
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Apr 18, 2017 14:32
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A lot of times, the small number refers to the gear the driver needs to be in. Not always, but that's one style of doing pace notes.
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Apr 18, 2017 16:00
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Countdown didn´t reach zero before it hit the ground, 2/10.
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Apr 18, 2017 16:14
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Elsa posted:There's certainly driver skill involved. I saw a rally driving instructional video of a left-foot braking technique. The point of it was avoiding the weight transfer of letting off the throttle, and it wasn't a matter of slowing the car but having finer control of RPM. Add a good navigator with notes and that driver can run the course as if he's run it a hundred times on forza. Might not be this exact video (They have several) but this sounds similar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgg5WWfMWzM Really interesting to see how they use it to fine tune the car
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Apr 18, 2017 16:20
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InitialDave posted:Ok, not my area, but If I'm rememberign right: Rally driver (former driver?  ) here, yes, he's right, the larger number or really a number by itself indicates the distance to the next instruction.The grading of the curves varies between teams. The Samir video uses sharp/medium/easy (there's a few more grading/words I'm forgetting) which is one way. I personally hate that way as I like numbering better, but it is one. The number system is either 1 to 6 where 1 is a very sharp turn and 6 is a very gradual turn, or 6 to 1 where 6 is a very sharp turn and 1 is very gradual. I used 1 to 6 personally. Australia likes 6 to 1 if I remember correctly. "Into" and "and" are typically used for distance measurements less than 30 metres. Into would be like 10 and and is like 20 or something similar. To blow your mind, watch this video of the stage record on Finland's Ouninpohja by Petter Solberg and Phil Mills and see how far ahead they're calling instructions. It's incredible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpDSPhECTSA
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Apr 18, 2017 16:48
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If you run a burnt wheel you bought for $15, you get what you pay for. Assuming you could find an installer who'd mount a fresh tire on this physical embodiment of a lawsuit. The WTF here is the seller insisting it's safe to use, then disabling comments after an actual metallurgist tells him it's not. "How can you even tell! 
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Apr 18, 2017 19:12
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drat armchair metallurgists and monday morning material engineers getting between common folks and not-at-all-damaged wheels.
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Apr 18, 2017 19:41
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NitroSpazzz posted:Might not be this exact video (They have several) but this sounds similar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgg5WWfMWzM That's the one!
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Apr 18, 2017 19:58
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Everything in that video might as well be in a foreign language for me.. seems like the sort of technique where you need an instructor in your ear and be able to feel the car react to input to really grok what's going on.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:10
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NoWake posted:If you run a burnt wheel you bought for $15, you get what you pay for. Assuming you could find an installer who'd mount a fresh tire on this physical embodiment of a lawsuit. Do you have the comment from the metallurgist and the subsequent replies (if they weren't deleted)?
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Apr 18, 2017 20:11
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Sadly no pictures of this yet but coworker is terrible at maintenance and is a notorious cheapskate. A month or so ago he noticed his ~350k+ mile Buick Rondevu was running kind of rough. Seeing as he hadn't changed plugs, wires, etc in the last ~250k miles he decided it might be time to do that. So he runs to the parts store right before they close Saturday night and gets supplies. Once home starts swapping the plugs, one sticks a bit so he puts on his cheater bar for a bit more torque. It finally snaps loose after leaning into the 4' cheater...snapping the insulator/electrode free of the metal case/threads. By this point it's midnight and he flies out of town for a couple weeks early Sunday morning. So finishes up the rest of the plugs/wires/etc and drives to the airport on 5 cylinders. He said it was pretty noisy. While he was out of town he did some reading and ordered an easy-out kit. He promptly snaps the easy-out off flush with the cylinder head. Runs much quieter now and he calls around for a replacement head and/or engine, none are cheap enough. Continues daily driving the thing ~50 miles a day round trip for two weeks before he's headed out of town again. This time though instead of flying out of the local airport he wants to spend the weekend before with his grand kids then fly out from there...only 500 mile drive. He sent an email late Saturday (again before his early Sunday morning) flight that his truck died at some point on the trip. He flies back into that airport that's 500 miles away this weekend and no ones sure what he'll be driving back other than it will be cheap. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 20:27
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Was it flickering so dude wandered by and poked it with a stick to make it not flicker? That's what you get for not leaving well enough alone.
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Apr 18, 2017 20:29
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Pomp and Circumcized posted:Do you have the comment from the metallurgist and the subsequent replies (if they weren't deleted)? I don't know the guy personally, but you could get the same facts about heat treating from any sales clerk at a hardware store. http://imgur.com/5ZNC6bi http://imgur.com/8291h7i
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Was it flickering so dude wandered by and poked it with a stick to make it not flicker?
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NitroSpazzz posted:Sadly no pictures of this yet but coworker is terrible at maintenance and is a notorious cheapskate.  NitroSpazzz posted:It finally snaps loose after leaning into the 4' cheater...snapping the insulator/electrode free of the metal case/threads. By this point it's midnight and he flies out of town for a couple weeks early Sunday morning. So finishes up the rest of the plugs/wires/etc and drives to the airport on 5 cylinders. He said it was pretty noisy.  NitroSpazzz posted:While he was out of town he did some reading and ordered an easy-out kit. He promptly snaps the easy-out off flush with the cylinder head.  NitroSpazzz posted:Runs much quieter now and he calls around for a replacement head and/or engine, none are cheap enough. Continues daily driving the thing ~50 miles a day round trip for two weeks before he's headed out of town again. This time though instead of flying out of the local airport he wants to spend the weekend before with his grand kids then fly out from there...only 500 mile drive.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:00
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Elsa posted:There's certainly driver skill involved. I saw a rally driving instructional video of a left-foot braking technique. The point of it was avoiding the weight transfer of letting off the throttle, and it wasn't a matter of slowing the car but having finer control of RPM. Add a good navigator with notes and that driver can run the course as if he's run it a hundred times on forza. Whomever said that about left foot braking needs to be loving gutted with a blunt fishhook. LfB has EVERYTHING to do with weightshift. gently caress me what a goddamn moron.
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Apr 18, 2017 21:15
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Whomever said that about left foot braking needs to be loving gutted with a blunt fishhook. LfB has EVERYTHING to do with weightshift. Weight transfer and keeping turbo(s) spooled up, yeah. 
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Apr 18, 2017 22:21
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It's also useful with FWD to correct understeer and act as a really basic ABS on loose surfaces. Hard as gently caress to learn though. Being fast on loose surfaces takes some serious skill and I'm jealous of those who just pick it up naturally.
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Apr 18, 2017 23:09
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StimpyBoy posted:Rally driver (former driver? Australia tends to use 1 - 10 as that's what's usually used with event supplied notes. A few notes - Distances in pacenotes mostly do not refer to the distance between corners, it just refers to the general gap between calls and the distance is not precise. 100 is a short gap, 200 is a medium gap, 300 is a long gap. So for instance a 300 could refer to a 2 km long straight. Also 100 is often used as a logical break between notes. Some drivers on the other hand do use actual distances between calls. Ways to do notes tends to be very regional, so in GB they have easy / medium / tight for corners, Europe tends to be 1 - 6 or 6 -1, Asia Pacific 1 - 10 or 10- 1. Basically it's up to the driver about how he / she wants the calls and how to do the notes, thence there is any number of successfully used systems and sometimes systems unique to the driver. There's no right or wrong way, just ways to not crash. I'll dig out my notes cheat sheet with all the symbols used in a day or two in general. However.... anyone want to guess what the following refers to? 8L 100 B !!!(Parachute) quote:It's also useful with FWD to correct understeer It fixes understeer by weightshift. That's why it came about - to unload the rear end on a FWD so the car will oversteer and you can nail the throttle for all it's got. Also it's not really used as ABS as you actually want some lockup when braking hard to make the tyres bite hard into the gravel to create a gravel bank in front of them. That bank helps the car stop quicker than you would think for two reasons - the gravel bank offers more resistance to the car going forward and you are rippping through the top loose surface to the harder layer beneath. Both reasons are why a gravel car can stop ridiculously fast and both need some mild brake locking to achieve it. The rule of thumb is threshold braking occurs when you have 10-15% slipping on tarmac, it's more like 20-40%(?) on gravel. (?) Been too long since I last looked that up so the precise % is only off hazy memory. You do however need some brake lock on gravel to really make a car stop hard. CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Crustashio posted:It's also useful with FWD to correct understeer and act as a really basic ABS on loose surfaces. Hard as gently caress to learn though. Being fast on loose surfaces takes some serious skill and I'm jealous of those who just pick it up naturally. Move someplace with a lot of dirt roads and go hooning whenever you can. I love gravel now.
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I bought a car just to do rallycross events with. At some point i am fully expecting it will be it's own horrible mechanical failure.
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Apr 19, 2017 00:51
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Meh, the stupid tard is probably me and I didn't know what I was talking about.
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Apr 19, 2017 02:15
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Australia tends to use 1 - 10 as that's what's usually used with event supplied notes. Ah yeah, forgot about 1 - 10. That's just crazy to me that some people want that degree of grading. But I supposed with 1 - 6 and then minus and plus it is similar. CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:8L 100 B !!!(Parachute) I'm pretty sure I know, but I'll let others guess. If I'm right there's a famous video somewhere of a Mitsubishi and this instruction.
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Apr 19, 2017 03:57
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:8L 100 B !!!(Parachute) Sharp left followed shortly by an extremely steep drop? Maybe that downhill that KaptainBallistik Dukes-of-Hazzard'ed off of a while back?
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We have our winner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWdPpHj07g0 And same car a few years later https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMW_2_j2tTg And just to prove some people dont get the hint..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfvl2XJOig http://alliancemotorsport.org/newgallery/index.php?/category/5 quote:Ah yeah, forgot about 1 - 10. That's just crazy to me that some people want that degree of grading. But I supposed with 1 - 6 and then minus and plus it is similar. I've tried both, 1 - 6 is easier to write notes for but 1 - 10 is more precise. Also 1 - 10 gives you a lot of confidence on the high speed corners. If you are starting on pacenotes, I personally think that 1 - 10 wins, despite a bit more note work. Edit : The exact pacenotes for Mineshaft are 8L ^ 100 B !!!(Parachute)< (8 left crest Brake Triple Caution Mineshaft keep left CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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NoWake posted:I don't know the guy personally, but you could get the same facts about heat treating from any sales clerk at a hardware store. The willful, even combative, ignorance displayed is a wonder. Also, it's an aluminum alloy, not steel, genius. Folks never seem to fathom just how hot a car fire can be, and how much that can change metals. I don't mind when people don't know a thing, but refusing to learn is a crime against nature, quite literally. That's the difference between ignorance and stupidity.
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Jet fuel [burning in open air] can’t melt steel. [But it can weaken it to the extent that it may as well be molten.]
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"The fire caused the metal to lose its temper." "I'LL SHOW YOU LOSING MY TEMPER"
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Darchangel posted:Folks never seem to fathom just how hot a car fire can be, and how much that can change metals. They use heat to forge Hanzo steel for strength so checkmate education haver 
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Video doesnt really show how STEEP the mineshaft is in reality- Its seriously to the point where the combination of the decomposed granite and the incline mean you cant walk up it. My poor old 2.8L diesel hilux wouldnt go UP it in high range even with a run up.
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Darchangel posted:The willful, even combative, ignorance displayed is a wonder. Also, it's an aluminum alloy, not steel, genius. The part that upsets me the most in those screenshots is that apparently "expert" is a pejorative to some people. Haha, fuckin' losers, actually knowing about things. What, did you go to fancy-pants college and get some kind'a book learnin' that gives you more than a high school understanding of the world? I bet you even have a field of expertise in which you excel 
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It's Facebook. Home of the LCD of inbredmethheadshithook. Dump friendface and your life will be oh so much better. guarangoddamnteed.
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Raluek posted:The part that upsets me the most in those screenshots is that apparently "expert" is a pejorative to some people. ICP takes the cake for reveling in ignorance and reviling education: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs&t=114s They list off a bunch of very natural and understood phenomena and declare them "miracles". Listen to the whole thing if you really want to punish yourself.
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