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I don't know that I completely agree with the the Murray firing, but he clearly mishandled the defense by ignoring it completely, and he also hired Dan Bylsma who is one of the worst coaches I've ever seen up close. It's ridiculous to think that lots of players are going to magically turn things around now that Bylsma isn't behind the bench, but when I said yesterday that virtually every single defenseman on the team saw their play tank under Bylsma, it wasn't a joke. His inflexibility was hurting everyone on the blueline, which was in-turn stifling the entire team at even strength. They had 0 transition game, it was appalling.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:If he didn't play 26 minutes a night with the toughest zone stsrts on the team he'd probably be a bit better! Generally zone-starts are highly overrated when it comes to player evaluation since most shifts start on the fly anyways. Also Franson, for example, had similar zone starts and still managed to finish as a positive relative possession player while Ristolainen was their worst relative possession player.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:How would Canucks fans feel about Ted Nolan? If he convinces ownership to fire Benning, then sign me up!
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Mind_Taker posted:His offensive impact is mostly on the PP. He is absolutely brutal at even strength in terms of possession and defense and he doesn't really score a lot given his large number of minutes. Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:If he didn't play 26 minutes a night with the toughest zone stsrts on the team he'd probably be a bit better! IneffectiveMath took a look at some Buffalo D numbers on the twitters and it's a really interesting thing to look at. https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/844944983098576896 he has better linemates than he has competition, he gets a ton of ice time, but video game tank is a really good term to use if you mean a very bad one who draws too much fire on himself and gets brutally owned. he might be better if he were used less and got more sheltered zone starts but that's because he's not very good at playing even strength hockey, since he currently is producing like a 5th/6th D-man 5v5. he is pretty filthy on the powerplay Koopa Kid posted:I mean he's 22, it's reasonable to expect that he'll learn to play D eventually. He's basically just a more extreme Morgan Rielly and their contacts aren't that different. agree on the first part but man he and Rielly are running in opposite directions.. Rielly moves the puck very well at 5v5 and generates points at 5v5, he's a sieve like RR but Rasmus doesn't have any real positives there besides time sponge
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gently caress DAN BYLSMA
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Buffalo is still paying Cody Hodgson almost $800k a year until 2023.
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Thufir posted:Buffalo is still paying Cody Hodgson almost $800k a year until 2023. To be fair, his back gave out. He had a history of slipped disks, but you can't expect a 24 year old to be forced into retirement due to what wasn't much more than a nagging injury. If you want really bad they managed to commit a combined 16 years and $67M to Christian Ehrhoff and Ville Leino and got a grand total of 263 games and 101 points out of them. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 16:33
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lmfao Dreger on Buffalo radio talking possible new GMs and the second name he mentions is Dave loving Nonis gently caress your dumb family
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Wippersnapper posted:Good news CAS - Nikita Tryamkin is headed back to the KHL because it is impossible to have good things. oh good, great gently caress El Gallinero Gros posted:How would Canucks fans feel about Ted Nolan? the others? I dunno, we have a lot of dumb fans. I'd hate it, but to be honest whoever gets the job is going to have a rough year with the last year of the much declined Sedins, a couple kids that are probably all middle-sixers at best, half of a competent defense (and not one of them big on scoring goals) and an ownership that probably wants winning to happen right now.
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oh, and potentially all 4 of Dorsett, Sbisa, Gudbranson, and Sutter stinking up the bench
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whatis posted:lmfao https://twitter.com/TSNSimmer/status/855069183327051777 please god.
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nonis as team pres pierre as GM badda BING
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whatis posted:nonis as team pres Therrien as coach
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Personally I'm waiting for Quebec to get their franchise, hire Therrien and Gainey as coach/gm, and then immediately sweep the Habs the first time they get into the playoffs.
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bring back dallas eakins to the league, terry
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:bring back mike keenan to the league, terry
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oh my god please hire pierre mcguire to gm and barry melrose to coach
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Wippersnapper posted:Good news CAS - Nikita Tryamkin is headed back to the KHL because it is impossible to have good things. Noooooooooooooooooooooo!. He was easily one of the most entertaining players to watch. Good thing I didn't get a jersey with his name on. 
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I wasn't sure about Murray being fired but I will say that Pysyk for Kulikov trade was the dumbest poo poo, Pysyk owned The Sabres defense is garbage and Murray did a lovely job with them. Of course he didn't have very long to prove himself either so who the gently caress knows what's going to happen now Edit: I thought Risto was good but I also didn't watch many full games this season so I didn't really analyze his play that well. I don't know what to believe any more!! Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Wippersnapper posted:Good news CAS - Nikita Tryamkin is headed back to the KHL because it is impossible to have good things. Goddamit
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Jamwad Hilder posted:oh my god please hire pierre mcguire to gm and barry melrose to coach Pegula gets confused, signs Jon Gruden to coach Sabres and Barry Melrose to coach Bills
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EugeneJ posted:Pegula gets confused, signs Jon Gruden to coach Sabres and Barry Melrose to coach Bills rex ryan to the sabres e5
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My favorite part of the Buffalo rebuild is that they only had six picks in the draft where they got Eichel. That, and when they traded a third for the rights to Jimmy Vesey, who had no intention of signing with them. They did a bad job of rebuilding and didn't manage to get a lot of talent beyond a few high first round picks, and they decided to hand out some big veteran contracts way too early (Okposo, Moulson)
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They also gave a third round pick to the Penguins for the right to hire Dan Bylsma.
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/855114059221528577 Haha Canucks. Also ha ha Sabres. They deserve Nonis because nothing good should happen to Buffalo.
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Zodijackylite posted:My favorite part of the Buffalo rebuild is that they only had six picks in the draft where they got Eichel. I mean they did have 11 in 2013, 9 in 2014, and 10 last year. This isn't exactly Vancouver.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:oh my god please hire pierre mcguire to gm and barry melrose to coach We're not blessed enough to live in this world
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what qualifies mcguire to be a gm? the fact he knows the name of every CHL coach?
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Mostly the fact that every single person in the US wants him out of broadcasting. Him loving up an NHL team is actually preferable.
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the talent deficit posted:what qualifies mcguire to be a gm? the fact he knows the name of every CHL coach? He coached in the past and his name is on the cup
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Mike Keenan got, not unprecedentedly, into headlines in Finland once again as he took control of KHL's first "Chinese" team Kunlun Red Star, drove 8 out of 10 finnish players and other staff there away, in order to (according to magazine) "fill it with north americans." Porrima fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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He once coached hockey so this easily transfers over skillwise to assembling a hockey roster.
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Much like playing hockey means you can gm. JUST ASK JOE SAKIC
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the talent deficit posted:what qualifies mcguire to be a gm? the fact he knows the name of every CHL coach? he was a coach on the Penguins early 90s Cup teams, head coach of the Whalers for a bit, an assistant on the Senators with some GM stuff in between I think. Famously, after he was fired by Hartford, Pat Verbeek said it was the best thing that happened to the Whalers because no one respected him and all the other teams made fun of them.
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the talent deficit posted:what qualifies mcguire to be a gm? the fact he knows the name of every CHL coach? john lynch recently went from NFL career to the broadcast booth straight to a GM job so the only qualification for mcguire that matters is that he's a talking head on tv, and any amount of professional coaching and scouting is the whipped cream and cherry on top
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Jamwad Hilder posted:he was a coach on the Penguins early 90s Cup teams, head coach of the Whalers for a bit, an assistant on the Senators with some GM stuff in between I think. you gotta post the article: http://articles.courant.com/1994-05-21/sports/9405210429_1_pierre-mcguire-whalers-general-manager-paul-holmgren quote:We said McGuire was overemotional.
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hifi posted:john lynch recently went from NFL career to the broadcast booth straight to a GM job so the only qualification for mcguire that matters is that he's a talking head on tv, and any amount of professional coaching and scouting is the whipped cream and cherry on top Didn't McGuire openly complain about not getting the Penguins job before they hired Rutherford? I feel like people have talked about him as a potential GM for a decade now, without much explanation as to why.
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Drunk Canuck posted:
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That Jagr quote rules. Firing Murray looks bad at first glance, but if he was still backing Bylsma and/or doubling-down on some other ineffective ideas, then sure, go get someone better who has a good plan for picking the next HC and building around Eichel. Pegula has been pretty consistent at making head-scratching decisions in the NFL and NHL though, so I'll believe it when I see it.
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