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Gammatron 64 posted:In your defense, when I told someone in the factory that I was going to Italy with my family, she asked if we were gonna drive there. absolutely
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COMRADES posted:A good chunk of the population can't even name the countries bordering the US and would probably assume Pinochet was some kind of food item or maybe a card game.
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Part of why you're so insufferable, Pick, is because you throw out some obscure fact about an irrelevant country and go "boom see I'm so smart America is terrible" You live in loving Portland you don't know anything.
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Pick posted:If you can name both of your own current state senators you are in rare loving form. had to think for a sec, but nailed it, also my senators are best senators.
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Honky Dong Country posted:Oh I don't mean to make it sound like it was thorough. Of was more of a "Hey we continued the Monroe Doctrine during the Cold War by meddling in a shitload of countries in the Americas and propping up various regimes" with a few as examples, which I remember including Pinochet, Batista, and a couple others I forget. Oh for sure then yeah.
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bonerjam posted:Part of why you're so insufferable, Pick, is because you throw out some obscure fact about an irrelevant country and go "boom see I'm so smart America is terrible" I only just moved back to Oregon, like I've been in Portland for like 6 months of my entire life. And you could never hate Portland more than I do.
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The only reason Pinochet has specifically come into the public consciousness is because a lot of conservative media have sung his praises lately. This hasn't impacted a large fraction of the population but much of the politically active right knows who he is (or at least that he = good)
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Pick posted:yeah I don't really care about your country Me neither you had to pick between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, your country loving sucks.
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bonerjam posted:Part of why you're so insufferable, Pick, is because you throw out some obscure fact about an irrelevant country and go "boom see I'm so smart America is terrible" The dumbest people are those who think they're smart, because they're too stupid to realize how stupid they are In other words humility is a virtue
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I hear the clinton campaign spent a quarter million on juicers
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"i dont know who Pinochet is" "Let my talk about my phd friends"
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Apr 20, 2017 17:48
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Mordor She Wrote posted:had to think for a sec, but nailed it, also my senators are best senators. You know, I kind of feel sorry for whoever the other senator from Vermont is. They must feel like Sen. Cellophane.
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COMRADES posted:A good chunk of the population can't even name the countries bordering the US and would probably assume Pinochet was some kind of food item or maybe a card game. to be honest if I ever make up a card game it will be named "Pinochet"
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DoctorGonzo posted:"i dont know who Pinochet is" dude even people with phds don't know who pinochet is, like this might startle you but a lot of people in stem, even at the highest levels, are god damned ********d.
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I know who pinochet is, he's the one with the nose that grows when he lies
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lazorexplosion posted:I know who pinochet is, he's the one with the nose that grows when he lies Thats Hillary Clinton
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Pick posted:dude even people with phds don't know who pinochet is, like this might startle you but a lot of people in stem, even at the highest levels, are god damned ********d. See, more of the "look how smart I am guys!!!!" poo poo again. I work with both phds and blue collar peckerwoods and the phds have far less sense of the world than the blue collar guys actually. It's kind of like autism they know a lot about one thing but everything else is like "huh? What?"
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Pick posted:dude even people with phds don't know who pinochet is, like this might startle you but a lot of people in stem, even at the highest levels, are god damned ********d. We're all retarded here, so does this mean SA is the phd capital of the world?
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bonerjam posted:See, more of the "look how smart I am guys!!!!" poo poo again. "The blue collar working is truely the real enlightened class" *votes Trump *Dies from opioid addiction.
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bonerjam posted:See, more of the "look how smart I am guys!!!!" poo poo again. Sorry why are you complaining at me again? This isn't an "or" proposition. it's not an argument whether blue collar workers OR phds know about pinochet. it's not even about pinochet (neither do). the issue is that people, generally, are very very very very very very ignorant of things outside their bubble and they are not thinking about things outside their bubble when they vote, and to some degree while their bubble is on fire, they should be worried about their bubble (on fire) before they worry about things that may or may not be on fire outside their bubble the only thing you can do is redefine the bubble, you can't tell them to ignore the fire
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Mordor She Wrote posted:"The blue collar working is truely the real enlightened class" Well for starters they are actually a class. I dont know what the phd liberals are besides smug prick
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So has anyone actually read the book? What was Bill doing the whole time considering he ya know, won two campaigns and could offer pointed, accurate advice about demographics and swing states?
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Grumpo posted:So has anyone actually read the book? What was Bill doing the whole time considering he ya know, won two campaigns and could offer pointed, accurate advice about demographics and swing states? What do you think Bill was doing that whole time? Or rather who do you think he was doing.
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Grumpo posted:So has anyone actually read the book? What was Bill doing the whole time considering he ya know, won two campaigns and could offer pointed, accurate advice about demographics and swing states? kissing an rear end he hasn't tapped in 15 years
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Apr 20, 2017 18:02
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Grumpo posted:So has anyone actually read the book? What was Bill doing the whole time considering he ya know, won two campaigns and could offer pointed, accurate advice about demographics and swing states? Getting rejected by the analyst idiots who lost the election.
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Yeah there was quite a bit of post election reporting that suggested that Bill's advice and warnings about election demographics fell on deaf ears, and I wonder how much of that is mentioned in the book.
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nigga crab pollock posted:the bernie reality has a 50/50 on being a gibsonesque nightmare tho we already live a gibsonesque nightmare, except the evil overlord are doughy sexless dorks with armies of lawyers instead of cyber-samurais with armies of android assassin henchmen.
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Grumpo posted:So has anyone actually read the book? What was Bill doing the whole time considering he ya know, won two campaigns and could offer pointed, accurate advice about demographics and swing states? Bill was a mixed bag. He had a decent understanding of what was going on but he also had some pretty bad appearances. Bill was campaigning for Hillary within the strategy given by the campaign team. He also had a nasty habit of amplifying Hillary's worst traits within the campaign.
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bonerjam posted:See, more of the "look how smart I am guys!!!!" poo poo again. Yeah having an advanced degree is no shield against ignorance to other matters of the world yeah my thesis was on the behavior of a particular microorganism when it is exposed to elevated levels of glucose during the latter cycle of the moon on a tuesday and let me tell you all about how to fix our infrastructure problems and alleviate our general cultural malaise I'm smart I have a PhD However it usually takes a certain level of organization and diligence to get there so you can't completely discount it but at the same time stupidity comes in a lot of different flavors
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DoctorGonzo posted:Well for starters they are actually a class. I dont know what the phd liberals are besides smug prick Deservedly smug.
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Pick posted:Sorry why are you complaining at me again? so how bout that election huh?? Crazy stuff!!! As a reminder, Hillary Clinton lost the election because she can't control her peepee and poopoo.
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Hillary hated non-scripted, non-directed interaction with voters because she was afraid of heckling in a way Bill was not. The problem is, this got Bill in hot water a couple of times, when he tried to argue superpredators with someone from BLM.
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Your argument was "people with phds don't even know who Pinochet is. I know who Pinochet is. Qed I am just utterly brilliant"
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Monkey Fracas posted:However it usually takes a certain level of organization and diligence to get there so you can't completely discount it but at the same time stupidity comes in a lot of different flavors That's pretty much what it's good for imho, you do have to have some level of not being completely shiftless. It's basically a certificate that says "this person tries to do things", for whatever that's worth.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Yeah having an advanced degree is no shield against ignorance to other matters of the world Noam Chomsky in a nutshell imo.
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Granted there's a lot of political/controversial stuff about him so I can see why he wasn't exactly on the front lines but just ignoring him for "experts" seems like a huge oversight and wasted resources. If she had really cared Bill would have offered a huge advantage in strategy.
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bonerjam posted:Your argument was "people with phds don't even know who Pinochet is. I know who Pinochet is. Qed I am just utterly brilliant" I only know he exists and he was mean because once I tried to get with a guy who was into Latin American Studies and I asked him what that was all about and he said, "Um... there was a guy called Pinochet." (no further details) and then I tried to find out who this peenoshay fella was to try to get into the dude's pants but then it turned out he was a loser so I didn't follow up on it. but now I know who pinochet was.
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Not taking Bill's advice on the campaign trail is like telling Mike Tyson get gtfo your corner during a title fight.
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Granted the most infuriatingly dumb smart people I know are STEMS.
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Frankly it's amazing to me how little awareness the average person has of what is going on and why just south of the border while at the same time they are mad about illegal immigration. Like hey maybe don't nonstop gently caress with all of Latin America and they wouldn't all be trying to flee.
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