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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:That's only really true of SDCC, which is a huge outlier in the world of nerd cons. Quakecon is also a smaller convention that basically sells out fairly quickly that most people haven't heard of. People are spending 50$ per person to go to a lan party that use to be free in 2017.
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PAXes, SDCC, NYCC, even the smaller comic con they have in NYC sells out very quickly. I expect HasCon will be bombarded with MLP fans in the first thirty seconds after registration opens.Angry Grimace posted:Maro pointed out at one point that they had bigger plans than they did for the 25th Anniversary because fans got pissed off about the 20th having basically nothing. Here it is.  at them not celebrating the 20th anniversary because it would "scare new players away".
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The Shortest Path posted:In addition to crap like shivan dragon, of course. If we're going for "Iconic" cards from early Magic, you gotta have Shivan Dragon, Hurloon Minotaur and Craw Wurm in there.
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Apr 20, 2017 18:21
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BJPaskoff posted:Here it is.
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:That's only really true of SDCC, which is a huge outlier in the world of nerd cons. Uhh I don't think you have been to Gen Con. Edit: Oh you were talking about selling out of badges, I think Gen Con still counts as the hotel rooms run out fast enough that people can't attend goth smoking cloves fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Entropic posted:If we're going for "Iconic" cards from early Magic, you gotta have Shivan Dragon, Hurloon Minotaur and Craw Wurm in there. With 75 sets (74 expansions through Amonkhet + Alpha), they can do 2 cards from every set and still have room left over. Hell, even Homelands can offer up Baron Sengir and Memory Lapse.
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TheChirurgeon posted:With 75 sets (74 expansions through Amonkhet + Alpha), they can do 2 cards from every set and still have room left over. Hell, even Homelands can offer up Baron Sengir and Memory Lapse. We gotta get Merchant Scroll and Serrated Arrows in there, gonna have to bump another set. e: and you need to have both arts of Memory Lapse!
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Shivan Dragon would probably be busted at uncommon?
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Entropic posted:We gotta get Merchant Scroll and Serrated Arrows in there, gonna have to bump another set. But what about Didgeridoo?
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Entropic posted:We gotta get Merchant Scroll and Serrated Arrows in there, gonna have to bump another set. Don't forget storm crow. Lol storm crow 😂
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Count Bleck posted:I just want it to have reserved list cards so I can watch the "investors" shriek their heads off on reddit. all 6 of them?
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Rinkles posted:Don't forget storm crow. Lol storm crow 😂 That was in Alliances wasn't it? Another card with multiple arts in the same set! I actually miss when they did that. I think it was only Antiquities, Fallen Empires, Alliances and Homelands, right? Is the excuse for not doing it any more that it's hard enough for new players to recognize all the cards in a limited environment with just one art for each? I guess that holds for Limited but it seems like a weak excuse for constructed with all the different art reprints every set ends up having. I think if they did it now, it'd be significantly less confusing than they think, since their art direction is much more controlled and consistent now, so you could have like 3 versions of a creature in the same art style that formed a panorama, instead of 3 versions in completely different art styles depicting completely different types, a la Fallen Empires:    They'd have to pay for extra art, but they already do that for basics lands every set and it doesn't seem to break the bank.
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Entropic posted:Is the excuse for not doing it any more that it's hard enough for new players to recognize all the cards in a limited environment with just one art for each?
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It was an excuse to increase how often a card appeared in a set and to fill out card slots in any given set so they could advertise it as being say "266 cards" as opposed to really being 221 cards.
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Entropic posted:That was in Alliances wasn't it? Another card with multiple arts in the same set! Yeah you don't really see it now. They did two arts for Ertai in Invasion, and they did an alternate art for the foil Kaya in Conspiracy 2 but as far as I know, that's it. e: agree that the reasons for not doing it on commons are solid, though.
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Rinkles posted:Shivan Dragon would probably be busted at uncommon? Shivan Dragon would be an okay open if they kept Melissa Benson's art and not the generic gently caress dragon they've used since what, Sixth Edition?
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Angry Grimace posted:Shivan Dragon would be an okay open if they kept Melissa Benson's art and not the generic gently caress dragon they've used since what, Sixth Edition? That thing is so loving gross. I didn't particularly love Benson's art (her Nightmare is much better), but it was full of character that the yellow turd they put out in 5th edition or whatever lacked Ditto Serra Angel, though the most recent one is OK if also generic
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its me glenda posted:It was an excuse to increase how often a card appeared in a set and to fill out card slots in any given set so they could advertise it as being say "266 cards" as opposed to really being 221 cards.  Edit: But apparently BFZ full arts shared a collector's number with their regular frame versions? Huh. Siivola fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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TheChirurgeon posted:Yeah you don't really see it now. They did two arts for Ertai in Invasion, and they did an alternate art for the foil Kaya in Conspiracy 2 but as far as I know, that's it. BROTHERS YAMAZAKI
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TheKingofSprings posted:What cards will be in Byronic masters 
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BJPaskoff posted:PAXes, SDCC, NYCC, even the smaller comic con they have in NYC sells out very quickly. I expect HasCon will be bombarded with MLP fans in the first thirty seconds after registration opens. This is the stupidest loving thing I've ever heard, even by WOTC standards. Angry Grimace posted:Shivan Dragon would be an okay open if they kept Melissa Benson's art and not the generic gently caress dragon they've used since what, Sixth Edition? The art from the "From the Vault: Dragons" set isn't bad, but still not a patch on the original: http://magiccards.info/fvd/en/13.html
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Angry Grimace posted:Shivan Dragon would be an okay open if they kept Melissa Benson's art and not the generic gently caress dragon they've used since what, Sixth Edition? Yeah, Benson's dragon is in the running for the most iconic art from the early sets.
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TheKingofSprings posted:What cards will be in Byronic masters Urza is probably the character fitting the Byronic Hero archetype the most.
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Angry Grimace posted:Shivan Dragon would be an okay open if they kept Melissa Benson's art and not the generic gently caress dragon they've used since what, Sixth Edition? I just want a Nicol Bolas reprint with him reading a book again instead of whatever the gently caress they did in that FTV set.
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Entropic posted:Yeah, Benson's dragon is in the running for the most iconic art from the early sets. Yup, looked at how much it would be to get a black border version of the good Shivan art just for nostalgia sake, gently caress that. Sad too, I remember in 7th or 8th grade at lunch some kid cracked a whole box of 4e. Nobody's parents bought them whole booster boxes back in the day. Luck gently caress sack got a Shivan.
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BJPaskoff posted:Here it is. This is the high water mark of that meme that everybody involved with Magic does. When you want to prove a point or make an argument, just conjure up the absolute dumbest motherfucker imaginable and talk about how it would scare him.
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Elyv posted:I just want a Nicol Bolas reprint with him reading a book again instead of whatever the gently caress they did in that FTV set. The problem with bringing back Nipple Bolas is that he became an iconic character in modern MTG lore, so they have a style guide related to him that doesn't match the original artwork.
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clamiam45 posted:This is the high water mark of that meme that everybody involved with Magic does. When you want to prove a point or make an argument, just conjure up the absolute dumbest motherfucker imaginable and talk about how it would scare him. I don't think it has anything to do with the hypothetical 'dumbest idiot player.' Rather, I think it was more about whether younger players (the "Yugioh crowd" if you will) would be turned off by the idea of playing a game that was 20 years old. Think more "Magic? That's the game my fuckin dad plays" It was still a very, very dumb move.
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The problem with iconics is making then draftable. Shivan Dragon as a rare in a $10 pack would be bullshit. Shivan Dragon as an uncommon breaks drafting those $10 packs. I'm certainly curious how that all will turn out.
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PJOmega posted:The problem with iconics is making then draftable. 6 mana for a 5/5 flyer in red at U isn't gonna break your draft, particularly if the format is also sporting Mahamoti Djinns, Ernham Djinns, Serra Angels, and Sengir Vampires at Uncommon.
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Angry Grimace posted:The problem with bringing back Nipple Bolas is that he became an iconic character in modern MTG lore, so they have a style guide related to him that doesn't match the original artwork. That's fine, I just want him reading like the scholarly dragon he is, instead of roaring at some poor bird or whatever is going on in the FTV art.
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TheChirurgeon posted:6 mana for a 5/5 flyer in red at U isn't gonna break your draft, particularly if the format is also sporting Mahamoti Djinns, Ernham Djinns, Serra Angels, and Sengir Vampires at Uncommon. It's still probably better than most uncommons though.
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Angry Grimace posted:It's still probably better than most uncommons though. the set's gonna prob have terror, it'll be fine and even if somehow they forget to put in any removal whatsoever shivan dragon isn't going to break the format
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Shivan Dragon would have been a very good, but not the best, uncommon in most recent sets imo
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mandatory lesbian posted:in a just and good world FTFY
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mandatory lesbian posted:in a just and good world shivan dragon is a common This just reminds me of how dumb it was that the creative team made the dragons plane one where there were no baby or young dragons so there could only be C/U dragon cards through finding corner case drawbacks and other silliness.
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whydirt posted:This just reminds me of how dumb it was that the creative team made the dragons plane one where there were no baby or young dragons so there could only be C/U dragon cards through finding corner case drawbacks and other silliness. There is one dragon in Shards of Alara block that is uncommon. The rest are all rares or mythic rares. And all dragons in Onslaught block are rare, even though Scourge pushes a dragon tribe.
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Elyv posted:Shivan Dragon would have been a very good, but not the best, uncommon in most recent sets imo Yeah, at least it isn't colorless. Looking at you Untethered Express.
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whydirt posted:This just reminds me of how dumb it was that the creative team made the dragons plane one where there were no baby or young dragons so there could only be C/U dragon cards through finding corner case drawbacks and other silliness. No joke, this was one of the reasons I decided that pursuing a job with WotC making Magic wasn't something I wanted to do. (The Glassdoor reviews didn't help.)
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