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The largest negative anomaly globally is centered on Palinaska. That's an lol.
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enraged_camel posted:I was telling one of my coworkers about the methane gas bubbles and he goes "that's awesome, i hope it happens soon and Russia gets hosed!!!" It's little anecdotes like these that give me a certain amount of schadenfreude about our collective impending doom.
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Apr 20, 2017 04:27
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Tiax Rules All posted:It's little anecdotes like these that give me a certain amount of schadenfreude about our collective impending doom. makes me mad enough to spit
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Apr 20, 2017 05:17
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Tiax Rules All posted:It's little anecdotes like these that give me a certain amount of schadenfreude about our collective impending doom. At least it's fitting that it's our selfishness, small mindedness and stupidity that destroys us, rather than arbitrary asteroid #45239.
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Apr 20, 2017 05:47
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That'll show the asteroid. We don't need no foreign bodies to successfully destroy the world!!
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Apr 20, 2017 11:35
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Is there any indication of how forcefully all these new methane bubbles pop? Is it an abrupt gas eruption or just a slowly deflating pocket that erodes into a crater? What I am getting at is will the inevitable dashcam footage be worthwhile? It is Russia, after all, and the harbingers of our collective demise may as well be entertaining.
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Apr 20, 2017 14:13
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Potential BFF posted:Is there any indication of how forcefully all these new methane bubbles pop? Is it an abrupt gas eruption or just a slowly deflating pocket that erodes into a crater? I have no idea but I wouldn't want to walk in this minefield: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Xc3LtZRWo
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Apr 20, 2017 14:17
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We should start an accelerationism charity to go pop as many of those things as possible
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Apr 20, 2017 14:33
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call to action posted:We should start an accelerationism charity to go pop as many of those things as possible You have to pop them within a few weeks of each other for maximum impact. Otherwise the methane turns into CO2, which is not nearly as strong of a greenhouse gas.
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Apr 20, 2017 14:37
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double nine posted:I have no idea but I wouldn't want to walk in this minefield: Seems like there's a fair bit of pressure behind that. Methane trapped under lake ice does not gently caress around.
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Apr 20, 2017 14:52
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Methane stays in the atmosphere for about 10 years. It doesn't need to all burst at the same time to gently caress us.
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Apr 20, 2017 15:09
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enraged_camel posted:You have to pop them within a few weeks of each other for maximum impact. Otherwise the methane turns into CO2, which is not nearly as strong of a greenhouse gas. That's why we start a charity, to pay for things like pizza and hot dogs for Bubble Burst 2018
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Apr 20, 2017 15:09
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Look at these images. https://qz.com/963439/a-massive-iceberg-photobombed-ferryland-newfoundland-a-small-canadian-fishing-village/ Massive icebergs big enough to land helicopters on are floating south past Canadian coastal towns. This is such a loving tragedy. 
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Apr 20, 2017 22:19
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Floridans are starting to freak out. Choice quote: quote:Cason, the Coral Gables mayor, said Congress ought to create what he called a “resilience fund” for homes threatened by the water 
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Apr 20, 2017 23:06
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I'm taking a particularly Carlinesque pleasure from these bits: quote:“Nobody thinks it’s coming as fast as it is,” said Dan Kipnis, the chairman of Miami Beach’s Marine and Waterfront Protection Authority, who has been trying to find a buyer for his home in Miami Beach for almost a year, and has already lowered his asking price twice. It's starting.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:18
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Lol people are being forced to pay massive insurance premiums that increase every year. Those houses are going to be abandoned after the next flooding event.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:29
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enraged_camel posted:Floridans are starting to freak out. Half that article's bold worthy. I liked this bit: quote:“The next black swan is the failure of housing finance to take climate change into account,” he said. “There will be a large number of homes that will lose substantial value, and will default on mortgages, if nothing is done to help them.”
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Apr 20, 2017 23:32
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So how do I convince my vehement, frothing denialist Boomer relatives to sell off their Florida properties?
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Help them? What are they gonna do? You'll have to turn your home into a literal underwater house, completely insulated and leak free. And with a tunnel to the surface. Actually that'd be pretty cool.Crazycryodude posted:So how do I convince my vehement, frothing denialist Boomer relatives to sell off their Florida properties? you can't don't bother.
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Crazycryodude posted:So how do I convince my vehement, frothing denialist Boomer relatives to sell off their Florida properties before the next hurricane? Try to hook them up with good homeowners insurance. Make sure it doesn't cover floods.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:35
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Yeah I'd just rather not see a large chunk of me and my cousins' inheritances end up submerged. But oh well, I've been working them for years with no progress so at this point gently caress them.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:36
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i hope to god housing collapses during trump's tenure just for the sweet sweet schadenfreude. a loving twofer. Bailing banks because of climate change... trump will implode.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:50
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I wonder how much Florida real estate could by hurt internet propaganda? Probably a lot of people who'd like to know that house they're eyeing will be underwater by 2060 Edit: The article addressed this: quote:Russo says if she knew in 2015 what she knows now, she wouldn’t have purchased the house. People buying in her neighborhood today are probably just as clueless as she once was, she guesses. “I would bet money that the realtors are not telling them.” Internet bullshit's easier than legislation. And if you get the ball rolling on Facebook, the politics get easier. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 23:56
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Minge Binge posted:i hope to god housing collapses during trump's tenure just for the sweet sweet schadenfreude. a loving twofer. Bailing banks because of climate change... trump will implode. I wouldn't be too sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRHKB7Vmxzk
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Polio Vax Scene posted:Help them? What are they gonna do? You'll have to turn your home into a literal underwater house, completely insulated and leak free. And with a tunnel to the surface. Actually that'd be pretty cool. By 'help' they mean a bailout.
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Apr 21, 2017 00:30
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Crazycryodude posted:So how do I convince my vehement, frothing denialist Boomer relatives to sell off their Florida properties? They sound horrible why would you want to help horrible people? Just feed them to the ecomutants.
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The Antarctic Ice Sheet is draining huge quantities of water out to sea. quote:Antarctica lost 1400 gigatons of ice between 2002 and 2016. quote:. “We’re working hard to figure out if this stuff is relevant to sea-level predictions,” said Douglas MacAyeal, a glaciologist at the University of Chicago who was not involved in the studies. He noted that, until recently, “nobody’s been that interested in melting,” because it was thought to be extremely rare in Antarctica. Rime fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Apr 21, 2017 04:07
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TildeATH posted:They sound horrible why would you want to help horrible people? Just feed them to the ecomutants. Because if their property gets submerged I don't get it (or the money they would have gotten from selling it, rather) when they die. Pure selfishness at this point, but gently caress it.
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I thought we had at least a decade or more before the momentum really started to affect things that your average person in a developed nation would care about, but when those positive feedback loops get going they really get going. I've been involved in environmental activism for a minute but it really feels like nowhere near enough is being done on a fast enough time scale, despite all the time and energy poured into this. Time to start convincing my relatives that live on the eastern seaboard to join me in the midwest, I guess.
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Florida banned the term "climate change" and/or state officials from talking about climate change, or some such. I can spell schadenfreude. I actually cannot, I had to copy paste it from another poster.quote:Because if their property gets submerged I don't get it (or the money they would have gotten from selling it, rather) when they die. Appeal to their selfishness. Explain to them that many people in the community do believe in climate change and sea level rise and will therefore sell and therefore property prices will plummet. Encourage them to sell before the property prices plummet. EDIT: It also depends on the nature of their dissent. The vast majority of climate change deniers do believe the climate is changing but its not us. If they are of this variety, they will believe sea level will rise and the fore their property will be submerged so they should sell. BattleMoose fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:I thought we had at least a decade or more before the momentum really started to affect things that your average person in a developed nation would care about, but when those positive feedback loops get going they really get going. I'm skeptical about the average Westerner feeling climate change in the next couple decades. We're probably talking more stuff like disappearance of cheap fish of certain varieties, or costlier produce etc.
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shrike82 posted:I'm skeptical about the average Westerner feeling climate change in the next couple decades. We're probably talking more stuff like disappearance of cheap fish of certain varieties, or costlier produce etc. Stuff like Rossby wave resonance will lead to more dramatic weather and weather shifts across the US as we've already been seeing, but it's hard to convince people that a statistical ensemble of unusual events is a change. To most people it's just a lot of wildfires / tornadoes / floods / droughts / whatever that year. See: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep45242
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shrike82 posted:I'm skeptical about the average Westerner feeling climate change in the next couple decades. We're probably talking more stuff like disappearance of cheap fish of certain varieties, or costlier produce etc. Consider the impact that a few refugees from the middle east has has on Europe. Now consider the impact of very many more refugees.
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:I've been involved in environmental activism for a minute but it really feels like nowhere near enough is being done on a fast enough time scale, despite all the time and energy poured into this.
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There's really no question at this point that activism has failed, I don't think anyone seriously believes at this point that there is anything to be done by the average person with regards to the climate. Unless by some miracle the ruling class of the largest governments in the world all simultaneously have heart attacks and are somehow replaced by people who give a poo poo about the environment, you should really focus on your own circumstances. Consume what you want, expand your carbon footprint as much as you need in order to get whatever you can out of whats left of the world before it's too late.
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And if you live inland, don't think sea level rise won't affect you.
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Yeah the survivalist compound in a remote mountain valley still sounds like the best long-term idea.
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shrike82 posted:I'm skeptical about the average Westerner feeling climate change in the next couple decades. We're probably talking more stuff like disappearance of cheap fish of certain varieties, or costlier produce etc. I think this really depends on what you consider to be impactful to your average person in a first world country. The truth is that you're already feeling the effects of climate change right now, no matter where you live. Arctic ice melt is having a real and measurable impact on weather patterns, and the overall effect of the changing climate on weather is real even if tying specific events to climate change is the wrong way to look at things. Whether or not you feel major impacts is just a matter of luck and how much you want to attribute freak weather events to climate change. A storm that's just a bit worse than Sandy was has the potential to completely gently caress NYC, but plenty of people aren't going to see the connection with climate change if that happens. It's hard to talk about the impact of something like this in general because we're always talking about patterns rather than discrete events.
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah the survivalist compound in a remote mountain valley still sounds like the best long-term idea. The best long-term idea is making a lot of money and living in a (not stupidly at risk) city that governments and corporations have a bested interest in maintaining afloat - and if social or economic unrest rears up its head, you've got money so you pack up and move somewhere else. Survivalist communes are for hippies and crazies who think the government puts mind-control drugs in the water. Even if you can deal with the decreased quality of life, and assuming the whole thing doesn't fall apart in on itself from some idiot having sex with the wrong person, all those guns are indeed good for protecting the place against individuals or small groups of outsiders that might wander in... but it fails to take into account that there are many gradual steps between "everything is fine" and "mad max wasteland", and some of those steps include large paramilitaries knocking on the door because they want those guns and any other resources you can spare.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Survivalist communes are for hippies and crazies who think the government puts mind-control drugs in the water. Survivalist communes? Is that what you consider cities with less than 10,000 residents? I mean, you don't have to join a commune to buy property in Montana. Now whether your mountain community will break or cities will break first is another question altogether.
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