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Joementum posted:[in reference to my last post quoting Taibbi] u can quote urself u know
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Nonsense posted:In the waning days of the presidential campaign, Bill and Hillary Clinton had a knock-down, drag-out fight about her effort to blame FBI Director James Comey for her slump in the polls and looming danger of defeat. 
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Homeless Friend posted:I knew there was a reason I was happy when she lost on November 8th. I like that every so often this thread goes so far off the rails someone thinks donald loving trump was somehow the better choice
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Nonsense posted:In the waning days of the presidential campaign, Bill and Hillary Clinton had a knock-down, drag-out fight about her effort to blame FBI Director James Comey for her slump in the polls and looming danger of defeat. one of the best parts about her campaign was mook and friends constantly trying to shut out bill, the one guy in the room with any experience winning a real election
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:That's the funny thing -- there's still a crucial part of assembly that requires manual labor between the electron gun and the tube itself: Can you not just use a flatscreen for a cabinet?
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Nonsense posted:In the waning days of the presidential campaign, Bill and Hillary Clinton had a knock-down, drag-out fight about her effort to blame FBI Director James Comey for her slump in the polls and looming danger of defeat. lmao, bill clinton.....good????
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UHD posted:I like that every so often this thread goes so far off the rails someone thinks donald loving trump was somehow the better choice maybe they got to loot their neighbors house when ICE got done with it
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The Muppets On PCP posted:one of the best parts about her campaign was mook and friends constantly trying to shut out bill, the one guy in the room with any experience winning a real election i'm picturing bill just constantly in the background going "hi, former president here that got elected on "its the economy stupid" and i have some advice" as everyone ignores him
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Vox Nihili posted:anyone who was happy on november 8 is insane, lol I wasn't happy with the result, just happy she lost. I was ready for it but not expecting it. I was way too partisian on forgiving Hillary for her faults lmao. Now that the shackles are off I can post like I want to! Btw this sounds like an excerpt from the book we're reading in the C-SPAM book club lol
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The Muppets On PCP posted:one of the best parts about her campaign was mook and friends constantly trying to shut out bill, the one guy in the room with any experience winning a real election yea the secret subplot of Bill just furiously shouting "WHAT ARE YOU DOING, HILLARY, STOP" while Mook pushes him out a side door is pretty golden.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:one of the best parts about her campaign was mook and friends constantly trying to shut out bill, the one guy in the room with any experience winning a real election i was wondering the whole time when's bill coming??? when are we getting an arithmetic speech that reminds us all that even if obama/hillary kinda suck, bill's there to keep it all straight baby and it somehow never happened
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i'm picturing bill just constantly in the background going "hi, former president here that got elected on "its the economy stupid" and i have some advice" as everyone ignores him "What's our messaging problem? Is it guns? Is it a gun thing??" "Have you tried talking about the economy, I hear that's a winning method." "Shut up, Bill, we're having a meeting here. Have you tried making fun of his hotels???"
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eonwe posted:lmao, bill clinton.....good???? everything else about him is reprehensible but goddamnit, the man knows how to get elected president
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sexpig by night posted:Yea that's been my takeaway so far. Clinton hosed up, but the real 'villains' in this book are idiots like Mook and Podesta who ran an overly focus tested campaign focused on some absurd idea of dignity and mind games against a 70 year old fox news grandpa shouting "THEY NEVER PAN THE CAMERAS" at his crowd. Clinton was a bad candidate, but bad candidates win all the time, her death sentence was being a bad candidate surrounded by nepotistic simpletons who view staying in their weird DC bubble as a source of pride rather than shame. She was the one who selected the nepotistic simpletons that surrounded her though
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Apr 20, 2017 23:49
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Joementum posted:[in reference to my last post quoting Taibbi] This goes hand in hand with that whole End Of History bullshit from a few decades ago
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thankfully precisely zero people from montana follow The Hill ah wait the top response is actually someone from montana, gently caress
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got any sevens posted:Can you not just use a flatscreen for a cabinet? yeah but it's not quite the same
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LGD posted:She was the one who selected the nepotistic simpletons that surrounded her though As David Axelrod pointed out in a good troll tweet, her campaign was making the same mistakes it made back in 2008 such her nasty attacks on Bernie and the very bad campaign can ultimately be blamed on her very failed controlling leadership.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:This goes hand in hand with that whole End Of History bullshit from a few decades ago Exactly the point they made on the podcast. Amber even read from End of History.
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i do like that this thread gives bill a pass all of a sudden now that they found out he screamed at hillary once
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sexpig by night posted:Yea that's been my takeaway so far. Clinton hosed up, but the real 'villains' in this book are idiots like Mook and Podesta who ran an overly focus tested campaign focused on some absurd idea of dignity and mind games against a 70 year old fox news grandpa shouting "THEY NEVER PAN THE CAMERAS" at his crowd. Clinton was a bad candidate, but bad candidates win all the time, her death sentence was being a bad candidate surrounded by nepotistic simpletons who view staying in their weird DC bubble as a source of pride rather than shame. Ok, but, Clinton was the one who actively picked nepotistic simpletons who viewed their weird DC bubble as a source of pride rather than shame to surround herself with because they were her kind of people. She had decades in Washington at the levers or power to find good campaign staff, and a whole Presidential primary's worth of experience in *why* surrounding yourself with nepotistic simpletons was a bad move. And yet when the time came for 2016 she once again actively surrounded herself with nepotistic simpletons. Her death sentence was her never ending string of incredibly poor choices that she herself chose, repeatedly, to make. Mook is bad but Clinton bears the fault for knowing how bad he was from previous experience and still deciding he was the man for her. The real villain is still Clinton, its just that the stars were her incompetent henchmen (whom she knowingly hired).
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UHD posted:I like that every so often this thread goes so far off the rails someone thinks donald loving trump was somehow the better choice Bernie was. Never forget that Hillary is why we have Trump instead of Bernie.
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Jazerus posted:i was wondering the whole time it was pretty telling he was the only big name from the campaign who did a rally within two hours of me, in a heavily democratic and black but rural part of my state
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like if you've never seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhWD-2KurPU watch it bill clinton led america in an in-depth analysis of why the republican economic "plan" is devastatingly stupid and the tea party a disease, using hard facts and figures, a speech that from anyone else in politics would be stiff, unnatural, "wonky" and he killed it
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Apr 20, 2017 23:54
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Joementum posted:Exactly the point they made on the podcast. Amber even read from End of History. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lexus_and_the_Olive_Tree
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LGD posted:She was the one who selected the nepotistic simpletons that surrounded her though and the mechanism of her failure was the same as in 08
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Al! posted:i do like that this thread gives bill a pass all of a sudden now that they found out he screamed at hillary once any sin can be forgiven if you poo poo on hillary
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Al! posted:i do like that this thread gives bill a pass all of a sudden now that they found out he screamed at hillary once my bill clinton good thing was a joke, but in this case it was good that he screamed at her
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Apr 20, 2017 23:56
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"In 2005, Friedman said that he framed this theory in terms of McDonald's Golden Arches "with tongue slightly in cheek"." Actually, you'll find that my posts were meant to be ironic,
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Joementum posted:Exactly the point they made on the podcast. Amber even read from End of History. The "superpredators" attack is based on the same mistake tho 
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Apr 20, 2017 23:57
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Al! posted:i do like that this thread gives bill a pass all of a sudden now that they found out he screamed at hillary once i mean gently caress bill clinton but there isn't a more natural politician in the world than him, it's ridiculous he was shunned
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Al! posted:i do like that this thread gives bill a pass all of a sudden now that they found out he screamed at hillary once Less surprising then people giving Hillary a pass, some of them twice 
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Apr 20, 2017 23:57
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god himself would get campaign advice from bill clinton and schedule a few bill speeches
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Apr 20, 2017 23:58
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I like the world building that these writers paint. I pictured Bill's immaculate luxury flat in mosquito bit Arkansas and Bill throwing the phone into the river, with the knowledge Donald John Trump would be president because of a phone call he made a year before.
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Apr 20, 2017 23:59
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Apr 21, 2017 00:01
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i can totes understand ppl bein happy she lost cuz yall spent a year+ bein real fucken smug n up ur own rear end to each other
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Apr 21, 2017 00:01
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jesus getting crucified? nbd bill's there to convert pontius pilate to christianity with a wink and a grin
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Bill is a bad human being but an incredible campaigner and public speaker. Not consulting Bill on basically everything was such an incredibly dumb unforced error on Hillary's part. Also lol that the Democratic candidate for president had so alienated the sitting president from her own party that he avoided directly supporting her as much as possible while simultaneously ignoring her two time presidential victor husband's advice
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