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Spermanent Record posted:The S8 is really really nice and I'm glad i got one. I'm liking mine so far other that I cannot get my BevRAGE app to work at all. Waiting on a response from their support email.
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I was debating what to get in the recommend thread and ended up going with the s8+ and really like it so far. Personally I like where the finger print scanner is, also. Maybe it'll blow up in my pocket in 6 months and you obviously can't really evaluate a phone in a couple days, but I'm happy.
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Apr 21, 2017 17:49
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I think as usual with the S8 vs the Pixel, people will be really liking their S8 and be bewildered when people with the Pixel poo poo on it. Of course there's always going to be the fanboy-ism, but... The S8 and many other phones are legit nice phones. They'll do cool things, not kill your family (until they burn down your house), look nice, etc. It's only until you have the ability to compare them to other devices that are even nicer that they come up short.
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Apr 21, 2017 17:50
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It's New and it's shiny so it's going to feel good for anyone who dropped the coin on it. And there are plenty of positive points for it. The question does come down to how it will be in 6 months+. Will it still exist? Will it get updates?
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cage-free egghead posted:Going to be getting rid of my Silver Pixel 128gb if anyone is in the market. PMed you. I need a new phone, but would prefer not to spend the massive amount required for the Pixel XL from Google. Was considering a Nexus 6P from Amazon, but the sellers all seem a little too good to be true...all but 1 is brand new, and teven that older one I barely trust. Good ratings, established history, but the price is only $250 for a supposedly "new" Nexus 6P.
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's been covered extensively in this thread, go back and read it if you want unnecessary details. As repeatedly said, it's the entire cohesive experience. The Pixel is consistently smooth, fast, well-designed, efficient, and not bloated. Samsung phones are not, and the S8 is no exception. Adding to this (based on my S7 Edge experience): Samsung's UI choices are bad. And it's the kind of bad that is hard to pin down until you have seen it done right. For example, they have quick toggles for several settings that do not require quick toggles. Normal users to not need to be turning on and off their Wifi, or Bluetooth, and for certain their GPS and NFC. Having quick toggles for them encourages users to toggle them. I don't care about your special use case for doing it, there are other methods to accomplish it that don't poo poo up the UI for 99% of all users. The only way I can find any setting in the settings menu is using the search box because Samsung has their settings laid out in a completely counter intuitive manner that often has redundant and confusing submenus. The Emoji design is a crime against taste. Samsung is determined to have their own thing any place that they can, even when there was a perfectly good (often superior) Google implementation of the same thing. Their Galaxy app store, Bixby, email, and others. This is probably because they want the option to ditch Android and switch to Tizen and don't want to be held ransom by depending on Google's apps to function. They are as bad about duplicate apps as they used to be, but there are still some. I honestly don't understand how they can't get any better response out of devices with specs as high as these phones have. It's not awful, but it is pretty poor compared to the Pixel and most high end Motorola phones I had used in the past. I think someone in this thread described it like this: When you use a Samsung phone, it feels like you are using a Samsung phone. It's like everything there is there to remind you that it is Samsung and not Android. When you use a Pixel, it doesn't feel like you are using anything at all because the phone is so smooth and non intrusive, you really only see the apps that you are using. That's a little bit of an exaggeration, but it is right that I can name 100 things I hated about the Samsung, but I have a hard time explaining why I like the Pixel: Because I don't ever really think about it. I just use it.
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Man, the Ars review is really brutal in places.quote:Even in the lowest resolution possible—1480×720—the Galaxy S8 still drops a ton of frames when scrolling complicated apps like the Play Store. The highly-optimized Google Pixel—at its full 2560×1440 resolution—is easily getting frames in on time. And even if things do slow down, there's a sizable amount of render time still. quote:Some might get excited by the Snapdragon 835 processor and the Galaxy S8's new position as the benchmark champion, but thanks to Samsung's heavy and seemingly poorly-optimized software, those speed increases don't translate to a snappy UI experience. Scrolling in heavier apps, like the Play Store, is slow, stuttery, and unable to hit a smooth 60FPS. In general, scrolling on the S8 has a consistent jerky stutter to it, almost like it is locked to scrolling every three pixels instead of every one pixel. Not everyone will notice the effect, but it will bother performance sticklers. quote:There are lots of features—the curved display, the iris scanner, the heart rate monitor, Bixby, and Dex—that make great demos but don't meaningfully change what it's like to use the phone day-to-day. I can just imagine the Verizon salesperson now: "Look at all the stuff this phone does that those other phones can't do! It can scan your heart rate and your eyeballs, and it has a futuristic curved display! You can hook it up to a monitor and it turns into a full computer!"
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Lowen SoDium posted:Samsung's UI choices are bad. And it's the kind of bad that is hard to pin down until you have seen it done right. While I overall agree with your complaints about Samsung, the quick toggle for wifi and Bluetooth is the same way on my stock Pixel. I agree it's a stupid design choice, and I'm far more likely to want to choose a network or Bluetooth device to connect to than to turn the radios off entirely. Pressing and holding every time I come into my office because my speakers don't automatically reconnect is mildly annoying. That said, if someone knows how to change that on the Pixel, I'd love to hear it. Press + hold to turn off/on and tap to open settings seems much more logical.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:19
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EdEddnEddy posted:The question does come down to how it will be in 6 months+. Will Bixby work? LMAO
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Fair enough and not really into getting into my phone vs your phone or whatever, I'll just say personally speaking, probably 80-90% of my interaction with a smart phone is reading/typing. Reading a website, an article, emails, texts, google hangouts, twitter, whatever. For that, screen quality, size, responsiveness are basically my top priorities by a lot. I probably open google play once a month at most to go download a specific app. Do I care if it hits a smooth fps? Not really. After initially getting all my preferences setup, it will probably be pretty rare I ever go in the setting menu to find things. People have difference preferences and priorities and use their phones for different stuff, which is fine. My only real complaint at the moment is the Bixby stuff, which isn't a huge deal to me but should be, well, working. And not being able to re-map the key is dumb and annoying. The software support and delays are a concern long term, but that is what it is.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:42
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Re: toggles on the pixel, I actually do find them useful, and expanding the tray changes them from a toggle to a quick menu to select devices and networks.
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Apr 21, 2017 19:10
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Pixel superiority is real Buying a Samsung phone on launch after their last fiasco is just lol. Probably won't explode, but they never promised it won't implode in your pocket either
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The Duggler posted:Probably won't explode, but they never promised it won't implode in your pocket either Hell, I'd be impressed if they could manage to get it to do that.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Re: toggles on the pixel, I actually do find them useful, and expanding the tray changes them from a toggle to a quick menu to select devices and networks. I did not know that! Thanks! That is exactly the sort of simple solution I figured might have been out there but I was just missing.
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incogneato posted:While I overall agree with your complaints about Samsung, the quick toggle for wifi and Bluetooth is the same way on my stock Pixel. I agree it's a stupid design choice, and I'm far more likely to want to choose a network or Bluetooth device to connect to than to turn the radios off entirely. Pressing and holding every time I come into my office because my speakers don't automatically reconnect is mildly annoying. Fair enough, and I agree that it is a valid criticism on the Pixel for those shortcuts too. Other have already pointed out that you can get to the settings by pulling down a second time. You can also get to that second pulldown menu faster by pulling down with 2 fingers instead of 1.
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Apr 21, 2017 19:40
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Jerk McJerkface posted:These amazon basics are the only earbuds you will ever need to buy: Sounds good but that cable looks like the same kind of matte materials from the Galaxy ones that sticks to skin/clothing. I like the glossy kind of thin cable material that you might find on a cheap headphone from <2010. My problem is that the Galaxy type sheathing stuck to itself so well that it frequently bound up around things instead of just sliding. Is this binding ever a problem with the Basics ones? Helter Skelter posted:I'm a fan of these Panasonics. The Wirecutter also has some other options if you don't mind spending a little more. Same thing, is this ever an issue?
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incogneato posted:I did not know that! Thanks! That is exactly the sort of simple solution I figured might have been out there but I was just missing.  It's handy
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The XKCD Larper posted:Sounds good but that cable looks like the same kind of matte materials from the Galaxy ones that sticks to skin/clothing. I like the glossy kind of thin cable material that you might find on a cheap headphone from <2010. My problem is that the Galaxy type sheathing stuck to itself so well that it frequently bound up around things instead of just sliding. Is this binding ever a problem with the Basics ones? I have 2 pairs of the Amazon basics headphones and after a couple years now the matte finish still hasn't done the whole "get sticky and attract a bunch of dust and garbage" but I keep them on my desk or in my bag. If you go to more extreme conditions than that, I can't really vouch.
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G-Hawk posted:Fair enough and not really into getting into my phone vs your phone or whatever, I'll just say personally speaking, probably 80-90% of my interaction with a smart phone is reading/typing. Reading a website, an article, emails, texts, google hangouts, twitter, whatever. For that, screen quality, size, responsiveness are basically my top priorities by a lot. Isn't struggling to scroll smoothly through a list a pretty bad sign for general usability no matter what your use case is.
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Apr 21, 2017 21:03
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For gently caress's sake Samsung, why did you make the home button a square? I haven't used softkeys in over a year until now and I still keep almost hitting home when I want recents.
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Apr 21, 2017 21:25
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datajosh posted:For gently caress's sake Samsung, why did you make the home button a square? I haven't used softkeys in over a year until now and I still keep almost hitting home when I want recents. Handy tip: the home button is the one in the middle
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Jacobus Spades posted:Handy tip: the home button is the one in the middle
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datajosh posted:For gently caress's sake Samsung, why did you make the home button a square? I haven't used softkeys in over a year until now and I still keep almost hitting home when I want recents. .....how? The home button is now and always has been in the middle
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Apr 21, 2017 21:31
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Sorry 'bout yer brain. 
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Apr 21, 2017 21:31
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datajosh posted:I know, I just see the square and my mind goes "oh, that's the one I want" for a second You...you look down at it?
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Apr 21, 2017 21:40
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Also doesn't the S8 allow you to change both their look (to go back to classic Android) and location (so you can put back on the left and recent apps on the right?)
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DrBouvenstein posted:Also doesn't the S8 allow you to change both their look (to go back to classic Android) and location (so you can put back on the left and recent apps on the right?) Look no, order yes
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Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with my brain. I mean, I do keep willingly buying Samsung phones after all.
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Apr 21, 2017 22:04
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My hot take: it is a good phone
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cravius posted:My hot take: it is a good phone A good phone crippled by awful software and terrible UI decisions. Also it may or may not catch fire.
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I think you guys are way too uptight. You could learn a thing or two from Samsung users, like how to relax while waiting for the home screen to reload, or how to appreciate the little things once you actually find them in the settings.
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Apr 21, 2017 22:32
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Also how to extinguish lithium fires and/or treat third degree burns
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Syrinxx posted:Also how to extinguish lithium fires and/or treat third degree burns Sounds like a blast to me!
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Jacobus Spades posted:I think you guys are way too uptight. You could learn a thing or two from Samsung users, like how to relax while waiting for the home screen to reload, or how to appreciate the little things once you actually find them in the settings. 
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Jacobus Spades posted:Sounds like a blast to me! 
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HTC is on a branding tear! First there was the HTC U Ultra Then there was the HTC U Play For the squeezable phone they dropped the boring Ocean codename and opted for the sleek, rolls off the tongue, HTC U 11! I'm glad they aligned all their names as it's very clear to me which phone is chasing which market segment!
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Apr 21, 2017 23:37
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What's a good case for the Nexus 3T? I bought the carbon fiber cover from OnePlus but I don't trust it to protect my phone lol.
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Spigen Neo Hybrid seems to be ok. I've dropped the phone a few times (my work clothes have terrible pockets) and no problems so far.
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64bit_Dophins posted:What's a good case for the Nexus 3T? I was that taken aback meme guy irl when I read this
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