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Makoto and Yusuke rank about right below Haru and Ann, tbh. Those are solid performances with a few weird moments, but are overall good and memorable. Makoto and Yusuke are adequate performances, but they're not particularly memorable or stand out, especially not in a cast that got voices that got the expressiveness of characters like Ryuji and Morgana so well. I still feel Makoto is miscast and neither VA of hers matches the character all that well and Yusuke's is still just Sugita to me, because he loving has insanely good comedic timing on anything he says and his voice has a lot of character to it and Mercer's is like just Mercer... again. It's just Matt Mercer again, not even the best Matt Mercer, just his normal voice.Alteisen posted:Caroline's VA is somehow worse than Golden Chie's. This is outright wrong though, because Caroline and Justine have delivery that is just as amazing as the JP ones and Caroline saying poo poo like HEY INMATE and NOW CHOOSE is good.
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Apr 20, 2017 20:44
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Endorph posted:shinji still has the best in-battle dialogue in the series Adios, rear end in a top hat.
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Makoto is perfectly cast IMHO
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You also think the protagonist's voice being rear end is permissible because he has less lines like that matters.
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Tae posted:Makoto is perfectly cast IMHO Her VA does the switch from obedient doormat to rage-filled shitkicker so well.
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Mona's cat laugh is probably the best voiced line in the game. Mrrrow haha.
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Captain Baal posted:Makoto and Yusuke rank about right below Haru and Ann, tbh. Those are solid performances with a few weird moments, but are overall good and memorable. Makoto and Yusuke adequate performances, but they're not particularly memorable or stand out, especially not in a cast that got voices that got the expressiveness of characters like Ryuji and Morgana so well. I still feel Makoto is miscast and neither VA of hers matches the character all that well and Yusuke's is still just Sugita to me, because he loving has insanely good comedic timing on anything he says and his voice has a lot of character to it. Also, Rina Sato voicing Makoto is basically perfect taking into account just how good she is at the whole "Hot-Blooded under the surface" shtick.
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Wait, what's wrong with the protagonist's voice in Persona 5?
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The problem is that I don't hear a lot of that from her performance as Makoto. Some of her lines are delivered like that, but not enough to make me feel like that's a big part of the character. It's especially weird since she just came off of voicing Velvet in Berseria, so that should be no problem, but for whatever reason even during her awakening scene she doesn't sound like she's going as rear end kicking hot blooded as she does at times with Velvet. There is a decent age difference to consider and that they're not the same characters, but it really does come off weird that they never really go all in on making her ever sound tough or badass. She still kinda sounds like a waifish teenage girl throughout the whole thing.Harrow posted:Wait, what's wrong with the protagonist's voice in Persona 5? The lines he has when ripping off the masks of Persona are wooden, his persona calls are mostly really flat, and his voice has no strength or showmanship to it whatsoever. Compare his and Fukuyama's voices and listen to how much fun Fukuyama is have tearing off the faces of Persona, how even saying fuckin Pixie's name has him boom it out. A big part of Joker is that he hides a darkness inside of him that comes out in the Palace and manifests as a thief who does all kinds of showoff nonsense and is incredibly bombastic. Mobus doesn't convey any of that. It's especially notable when he's voicing Arsene and he's loving amazing doing that, but then you get to the protag and it's just some dude's voice. Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Captain Baal posted:The lines he has when ripping off the masks of Persona are wooden, his persona calls are mostly really flat, and his voice has no strength or showmanship to it whatsoever. Compare his and Fukuyama's voices and listen to how much fun Fukuyama is have tearing off the faces of Persona, how even saying fuckin Pixie's name has him boom it out. A big part of Joker is that he hides a darkness inside of him that comes out in the Palace and manifests as a thief who does all kinds of showoff nonsense and is incredibly bombastic. Mobus doesn't convey any of that. It's especially notable when he's voicing Arsene and he's loving amazing doing that, but then you get to the protag and it's just some dude's voice. Huh, maybe it's because I hadn't listened to his Japanese voice and don't have that basis for comparison, then. I don't think I noticed any real woodenness to his Persona name call-outs or anything, but I also wasn't really expecting much more than just saying the Persona's name. I'll turn on the Japanese voices for a bit and see, I guess.
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It's really noticeable when Mobus' "PERSONA" line comes out and he sounds like some dude who was just caught jacking it by his mom.
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I want Baofu to teach Futaba about wiretapping and blackmailing people.
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Captain Baal posted:Makoto and Yusuke rank about right below Haru and Ann, tbh. Those are solid performances with a few weird moments, but are overall good and memorable. Makoto and Yusuke are adequate performances, but they're not particularly memorable or stand out, especially not in a cast that got voices that got the expressiveness of characters like Ryuji and Morgana so well. I still feel Makoto is miscast and neither VA of hers matches the character all that well and Yusuke's is still just Sugita to me, because he loving has insanely good comedic timing on anything he says and his voice has a lot of character to it and Mercer's is like just Mercer... again. It's just Matt Mercer again, not even the best Matt Mercer, just his normal voice. I liked Ann's English voice, especially when she leans hard into playing up a blond airhead, though her JPN voice is great too, yelling CHOTTO MATTE YO in like every scene. Makoto's voice is a weird one, but I really wound up liking it too
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Alfalfa The Roach posted:honestly if I have anything to criticize about P5, it's that Caroline and Justine suck What the gently caress?? Captain Baal posted:It's really noticeable when Mobus' "PERSONA" line comes out and he sounds like some dude who was just caught jacking it by his mom. His Persona call is my least favourite bit of voice acting in the game.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:What the gently caress?? It's real bad on the flip side I like it when he calls Bugs, but possibly not for the right reasons. He gets really gravelly and it makes me laugh everytime.
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https://twitter.com/Gooseps/status/854993859033653248
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Also I started playing SMTIVA and Dagda is cool.
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Captain Baal posted:Also I started playing SMTIVA and Dagda is cool. But he's no Burroughs when it comes to cheering on the death of your friends.
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Dagda arguing with his mom all the time is one of my favorite things.
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I was thinking of starting SMT4A but I still haven't finished SMT4, Persona 4 or Persona 5. Please...help....
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irlZaphod posted:I was thinking of starting SMT4A but I still haven't finished SMT4, Persona 4 or Persona 5. For sure don't start it before finishing SMT 4 because it starts near the end of SMT 4 and spoils a lot of things right at the beginning.
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Item Getter posted:For sure don't start it before finishing SMT 4 because it starts near the end of SMT 4 and spoils a lot of things right at the beginning.  . So I put it down and picked Persona 3 back up again, which I finished.
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To be quite honest there's nothing story wise in SMT4A that's worth delaying SMT4A for. If anything it'll just make you more likely to burn out while playing the better game.
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Captain Baal posted:Also I started playing SMTIVA and Dagda is cool. I think I'm going to do that once I'm done with Persona 5. I have a bad habit of getting too attached to the world of Persona games so I'm gonna need a step-down game. And I haven't played SMT4A yet so it seems like a good candidate.
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Captain Baal posted:Also I started playing SMTIVA and Dagda is cool. Same
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As a person unaccustome to true smt, the beginning of 4 has been really rough on me I'll press onward, though
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Sea Sponge Run posted:As a person unaccustome to true smt, the beginning of 4 has been really rough on me Much like almost every megaten game once your options start to open up after the first few areas the game becomes significantly easier. Once you get to the world map proper you should be golden.
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Sea Sponge Run posted:As a person unaccustome to true smt, the beginning of 4 has been really rough on me good luck gamer
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So if I found SMT4's Normal difficulty disappointingly easy (after the second boss--it was pretty tough before then), what difficulty should I start SMT4A on? War?
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Harrow posted:So if I found SMT4's Normal difficulty disappointingly easy (after the second boss--it was pretty tough before then), what difficulty should I start SMT4A on? War? SMT4A is generally better about difficulty dropoff than SMT4 was, but yeah War is good if you're used to SMT4.
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Harrow posted:So if I found SMT4's Normal difficulty disappointingly easy (after the second boss--it was pretty tough before then), what difficulty should I start SMT4A on? War? Saagonsa posted:SMT4A is generally better about difficulty dropoff than SMT4 was, but yeah War is good if you're used to SMT4.
In all seriousness, do play the game in the hardest difficulty. It's weird how much it makes you feel that, despite normal difficulty doing the job just fine, War almost makes you think that you're taking it all for granted.  And yes, you're Morty in all of these instances, in case you were curious.
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Here's my opinion on the P5 dub: Makoto, Futaba, and especially Ryuji and Morgana are good. I don't understand why Baal says Igor sucks because I think his (first) new voice is great, although I do kind of miss the original English VA too. Sojiro is also great, even if it's just Jamieson Price doing his usual thing. DC Douglas is great as Kamoshida but I still think it would have been better if he had been cast as Shido. I guess it makes sense if they wanted to preserve the Gundam reference though. I liked Okumura's English voice, for what little we get of it in the grand scheme of things. Haru and Akechi are bad, although I don't necessarily blame Haru's actress so much because she gets so little to do in comparison with like every other major character. Kaneshiro is awful and sounds like some dude they just got off the street. Sae has some really bad lines during the interrogation but she's good as the Shadow and post-heart stealing. I don't think the protagonist has a lot of memorable Persona calls (the only one outside of the final cutscene that I remember distinctly liking is Hecatonchires) but I did find myself saying ALRIGHT to myself in his voice a lot for whatever that's worth. All of the other major characters are varying degrees of 'fine', a bunch of the incidental NPCs are bad but most of them are at least bad in a funny way. It's probably not quite as good as the vanilla P4 dub (I didn't play Golden) overall, and Atlus JP forcing weird pronunciations on certain names for no obvious reason is still really weird, but it certainly didn't hamper my enjoyment of the game. It's funny because I thought Max Mittleman sounded horrible in the initial Ryuji trailer they put out but he ended up being my favorite English VA in the game by a mile. GET WRECKED. Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Honestly the only outright bad voice in Persona 5's dub is the Tower confidant kid, holy poo poo what even happened there
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Harrow posted:Honestly the only outright bad voice in Persona 5's dub is the Tower confidant kid, holy poo poo what even happened there OK yeah, if we're including Confidants then yeah Shinya is awful. I don't even know what Barbara Goodson was going for there, it's not like she hasn't done preteen kids well before.
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Grozz Nuy posted:OK yeah, if we're including Confidants then yeah Shinya is awful. I don't even know what Barbara Goodson was going for there, it's not like she hasn't done preteen kids well before. Shinya just made me sad for this reason. I usually like her voice work, but here's it's just bleh.
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Harrow posted:Honestly the only outright bad voice in Persona 5's dub is the Tower confidant kid, holy poo poo what even happened there There's a little girl at the end of the death confidant that's pretty bad, even the audio quality seems horrible. I'd almost liken it to Ike from South Park where it's a staff members kid talking over the phone
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Since we're talking about VA, I wanna give a special shout out to the cheater that starts the Tower Confidant.
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So I'm gonna try to go through Devil Survivor Overclocked and Record Breaker. Is Overclocked a "Physical only Protag" or a "Magic Only Protag" kind of SMT game?
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