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A Wizard of Goatse posted:how the gently caress is Clinton going to run against anyone on any of these things I think through the right ads and messaging, she could have done so pretty easily. She had a lot of interaction with the donor class, so to speak, but she's not a billionaire real estate developer with a history of treating employees like garbage.
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Accretionist posted:Just don't forget how much more they can take away: You forgot social security and medicare. I'm sure all these things are probably going away and more! spacetoaster posted:I have to scroll past everything on FB now. Memes from my lefty friends about how christian white men are all creepy rapists, memes from my righty friends about how atheists want to make anime real. I had to like unfollow most people on facebook and I quit twitter entirely. Holy hell do people loving loathe each other these days and drat is it vicious. It's already gotten violent and it's going to escalate and get worse. It's like everyone is infected with a drat hate plague and has gone mad with complete unbridled rage. One time I poked a beehive on these very forums and had people flipping out and telling me I'm human scum who should be dead. People be crazy these days.
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Pawl posted:Anti-white memes to the left of me I don't really consider myself anything. I know that I've got beliefs (You guys are probably the same way) that would get me labeled a right winger by some and a left winger by others.
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Gammatron 64 posted:
The only people I unfollow are people that spam like 15 cat videos a day, or just post endlessly about how depressed they are and nobody can understand them. I get that everyone has a few (or many) beliefs that seem crazy to people that don't share them, so I let stuff slide by. I'm also really strict about only having FB friends that I know IRL (so only about 60) so if I see a truly crazy opinion I can temper it with the knowledge that this is a person that I know and like.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:with a history of treating employees like garbage. 
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Speaking from a lefty perspective, left twitter is constantly eating itself (more than usual) post election and it loving sucks so bad. It was fun during the primaries and even throughout the GE, but between Syria, antifa protests and constant relitigation of the primaries it's totally unusable.
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The Landstander posted:Now, the trick is not winding up in the nativist vs. woke corporatist paradigm mentioned above, but we probably will. =( We need a pro-government narrative. I'll rip off a monologue from something I watched ages ago: I am not a politician by trade. I am a bureaucrat. But I do know this: If the water comes out when I turn on the tap, it doesn't happen magically. Or if there's gasoline when I turn on the pump. For the world to function, a thousand things have to go right every minute. And they have to go right quietly. That's why you have government, to make sure that these things happen quietly. So that we can have our society.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:I think through the right ads and messaging, she could have done so pretty easily. She had a lot of interaction with the donor class, so to speak, but she's not a billionaire real estate developer with a history of treating employees like garbage. No, she's a hundred-millionaire influence peddler with close financial ties to a fuckload of insanely shady people and uh all those excerpts ITT
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:No, she's a hundred-millionaire influence peddler with close financial ties to a fuckload of insanely shady people and uh all those excerpts ITT You misogynistic piece of poo poo. 
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trying to own the isolationist guy on the unethical business practices he's already cheerfully owning up to as proof of what a smooth operator he is, as the national-security-heavy "womens' candidate" who as SecState brokered an arms deal with Saudi Arabia in exchange for a massive donation to the foundation her daughter draws a $500k salary from, would not have high odds of ending well, but it would've been pretty funny
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Apr 21, 2017 20:56
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Hillary told coal miners they werent going to have jobs when she got into office. Now I dont disagree that coal is probably on its way out, but telling people youre going to take their jobs away is probably a bad thing when running for office. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIXqxpQNt0
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Hillary Clinton is an evil wizard
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coastalelites.avi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-uhXKO-nk
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:trying to own the isolationist guy on the unethical business practices he's already cheerfully owning up to as proof of what a smooth operator he is, as the national-security-heavy "womens' candidate" who as SecState brokered an arms deal with Saudi Arabia in exchange for a massive donation to the foundation her daughter draws a $500k salary from, would not have high odds of ending well, but it would've been pretty funny Ahh yes, Trump, the isolationist 'peace candidate'
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:how the gently caress is Clinton going to run against anyone on any of these things Yeah her theatrical browbeating of her subordinates was pretty bad even by crazed prima donna standards
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spacetoaster posted:The only people I unfollow are people that spam like 15 cat videos a day, or just post endlessly about how depressed they are and nobody can understand them. See I get around a lot and I have like 400 "friends" on facebook and twitter each so that might explain my problem a bit But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Speaking from a lefty perspective, left twitter is constantly eating itself (more than usual) post election and it loving sucks so bad. It was fun during the primaries and even throughout the GE, but between Syria, antifa protests and constant relitigation of the primaries it's totally unusable. Delete your twitter, that's what I did and life is much better now I tried to use tweetdeck to filter out certain words and accounts from being retweeted, but it just wasn't enough and I had to kill the whole thing. Twitter is a constant spew of 24/7 outrage and the only people who still use it are those who are addicted to being mad at things.
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Accretionist posted:We need a pro-government narrative. People don't want a small government, they want an invisible government
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Gammatron 64 posted:See I get around a lot Heh.
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spacetoaster posted:I don't really consider myself anything. I know that I've got beliefs (You guys are probably the same way) that would get me labeled a right winger by some and a left winger by others. it was a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q and honestly i am lefty and i feel this way.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:People don't want a small government, they want an invisible government I like it! Accretionist fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:People don't want a small government, they want an invisible government Yeah, people want what they want and don't really want to know how the secret sauce gets made. This is how you sell socialism in america.
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Accretionist posted:I like it! It goes well with the invisible hand of the free market.
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JB50 posted:Hillary told coal miners they werent going to have jobs when she got into office. Now I dont disagree that coal is probably on its way out, but telling people youre going to take their jobs away is probably a bad thing when running for office. Like OK yeah so she's a soulless plastic action figure that ripped its way out of its "POLITICIAN" packaging and ran for president and that was a negative thing for her but you'd think that would prevent stupid unforced errors like this and the "deplorables" comment. Christ
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OctaviusBeaver posted:coastalelites.avi I love these compilations of before and after the election, they never get old
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Monkey Fracas posted:Like OK yeah so she's a soulless plastic action figure that ripped its way out of its "POLITICIAN" packaging and ran for president and that was a negative thing for her but you'd think that would prevent stupid unforced errors like this and the "deplorables" comment. nobody would have given a poo poo about any of these things were it not for the soulless lizard person thing, Trump is a walking gaffe golem and the media just looked stupid and petty tittering about it. Clinton would not have won if she'd simply avoided ever saying anything that polled poorly and the beltway set's obsession with bullshit like that in lieu of an actual vision for the country was the underpinning of her candidacy and campaign strategy. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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The only political stuff I like on Twitter is Glenn Greenwald ripping establishment democrats a new rear end in a top hat. It's a really bad format for actual discourse. Great for sports though.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:nobody would have given a poo poo about any of these things were it not for the soulless lizard person thing, Trump is a walking gaffe golem and the media just looked loving stupid tittering about it. Clinton would not have won if she'd simply avoided ever saying anything that polled poorly and the beltway set's obsession with bullshit like that was the underpinning of her candidacy and campaign strategy. Yeah the strategy of just going "Wow look at Trump; crazy huh guys amirite lol" while simultaneously having no actual platform beyond "it is my turn to be President" was not a winning one I remember during a debate when Hillary had an opportunity to comment on her platform and goals on national TV and was like "you can read about it on my website" as if people were going to do that poo poo fuuuuuuckin hell
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Space Camp fuckup posted:The only political stuff I like on Twitter is Glenn Greenwald ripping establishment democrats a new rear end in a top hat. It's a really bad format for actual discourse. Great for sports though. the only person to ever actually fully realize the potential of Twitter is wint
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Space Camp fuckup posted:The only political stuff I like on Twitter is Glenn Greenwald ripping establishment democrats a new rear end in a top hat. It's a really bad format for actual discourse. Great for sports though. Hilariously enough, Democrats have collectively decided that Greenwald is another Putin apologist who should be ignored. Anything to avoid self-reflection, I guess.
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quote:Hillary was at her wit’s end when it came to her messaging—dismayed by the campaign’s lack of inspiration. Here she was, a year into her campaign and about to get trampled by a socialist, and “Breaking Barriers” was the best her staff could come up with. She wasn’t panicked, but she was coming to grips with the idea that, even with years to think about it, the campaign team she’d built was no better than its 2008 predecessor at helping her find an articulable vision for the country.
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Nativist v. corporatist puts you in a bad loving position because both of those suck unbelievable rear end.
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Pick posted:Nativist v. corporatist puts you in a bad loving position because both of those suck unbelievable rear end. bit late for that my dear
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Pick posted:Nativist v. corporatist puts you in a bad loving position because both of those suck unbelievable rear end. I don't think it is going to be as clear cut as that though. You can't form a party platform or adapt an old party ideology around those two things by themselves let alone separately. I think it's much more likely we end up with a right that wants to secede from the world while domestically pursuing quasi nativist policies complete with abandoning free trade for protectionism and a left that is domestically social democratic with an extremely hawkish international interventionism.
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Which one of these will be the dominant political order is dependent on which successfully replaces the Reagan order. Which just might end with Trump.
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This country isn't worth saving. Goon Techies should all immigrate. If you are not a Goon Techie, become one then emigrate.
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NomChompsky posted:I don't think it is going to be as clear cut as that though. You can't form a party platform or adapt an old party ideology around those two things by themselves let alone separately. I think it's much more likely we end up with a right that wants to secede from the world while domestically pursuing quasi nativist policies complete with abandoning free trade for protectionism and a left that is domestically social democratic with an extremely hawkish international interventionism. since the definition of the political right seems to be isolationist/nationalist nowadays, and the definition of the left is cosmopolitan/globalist, does it, then, follow that a capital globalist, who opposes any and all restrictions on the movement of capital and people (i.e. workforce), is in fact a leftist?
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:since the definition of the political right seems to be isolationist/nationalist nowadays, and the definition of the left is cosmopolitan/globalist, does it, then, follow that a capital globalist, who opposes any and all restrictions on the movement of capital and people (i.e. workforce), is in fact a leftist? In America this is certainly the case
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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:since the definition of the political right seems to be isolationist/nationalist nowadays, and the definition of the left is cosmopolitan/globalist, does it, then, follow that a capital globalist, who opposes any and all restrictions on the movement of capital and people (i.e. workforce), is in fact a leftist? Here's the easiest answer to your question: 
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