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TheChirurgeon posted:Little known fact: It is possible to change unit stats (like HP or defense) in an RTS after release!  There's a lot more wrong with the game than simple stats. The one game mode is awful. Each team has a shield generator, a turret, and a core which must be taken out in that order. There are no victory points or anything but resources to force the two sides to engage. I had a game earlier where my side was on its way to take a resource point from the enemy, but I foolishly scouted it out with a deffkopta and revealed a wraithknight. My allies stopped in their tracks and did nothing but build up their armies for the next 10 loving minutes. We had artillery! We had two morkanauts! We weren't going to lose that one. I quit out of frustration. I have no idea why they left out the typically standard (for Relic, at least) victory points mode. There's no driving force here.
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Safety Factor posted:Dawn of War 3's open beta is this weekend. After playing two games, I can definitively say I think it sucks. I went in expecting to hate it and I kinda do but for reasons not what I expected. All the videos I saw of DoW3 made it look like a mobile game in some way that was really hard to put my finger on. Something about the angle, the camera, the way the units moved... it looked really cheap. Playing the beta... it plays pretty much just like DoW 1/2, so that's not really an issue. The graphics are good enough. The camera is way too zoomed in though and you can't zoom it out, and the controls suck, and the gameplay just feels like DoW 1 but not as fast-paced. The UI seems really un-polished and kinda cheap too... for the life of me I can't figure out how to add AI bots to the game. Are they in the beta? The game references them but then there's no possible way I can see to add them, only players... And DoW 2 had a cool idea for how to improve on DoW 1, focusing on smaller engagements. DoW 3 is like, half of both? We have more base building but still pretty small scale  Its like the worst of both games.
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Bots aren't in the beta, looks like they really want people to stress-test Multiplayer. Biggest problem I'm facing with the game right now is the lack of UI feedback, I have to be constantly on the edge because the tiny blips you get on units being attacked, etc, are tiny and don't always trigger a vocal cue. Some more clear warning indicators for AoE attacks would be nice as well. Beyond that, only real problems I'm having are small things (colour scheme selection for Marines seems broken atm, can only access 1 custom scheme) or the general stupidity of the free-to-play crowd who've just jumped on for the Beta. Between the dude who kept calling me a human being for not rescuing a small resource point from a 3-player large push, or the dude who kept bragging about his dick while he kept all his massive swarm of Orcs hiding in a corner of the map for an entire game, I'm really jonesing for those Bots already.
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I think the main issue with the game is that it is poo poo.
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SteelMentor posted:the dude who kept bragging about his dick while he kept all his massive swarm of Orcs hiding in a corner of the map for an entire game This guy sounds awesome lmao
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Zaphod42 posted:And DoW 2 had a cool idea for how to improve on DoW 1, focusing on smaller engagements. DoW 3 is like, half of both? We have more base building but still pretty small scale Ugh, pass then. DoW 2 was a huge step back in my opinion. The territory control and base-building of DoW 1 were much more fun for me.
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See I loved dow2 because it was like playing commandos or something and I prefer single to multi. I got a lot of mileage out of dow2.
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Zaphod42 posted:And DoW 2 had a cool idea for how to improve on DoW 1, focusing on smaller engagements. DoW 3 is like, half of both? We have more base building but still pretty small scale The engagements aren't small, the big problem is that it gives you DoW2-level micro but in DoW1-level engagements, so it's just a clusterfuck where you have too many abilities to conceivably use, and everything's dying at Command and Conquer speeds, so you don't have time to do anything before suddenly everything's dead. You also can only reinforce at certain points like in DoW2, but there's no retreat button, so there's even more micro involved just in running away. It's seriously the worst elements of both games, and this is from someone who has nothing but love for DoW1/2. Also the base building is really shallow and adds nothing to the game.
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The camera and playstyle seemed too MOBA-like for me when I saw some Youtubers play it, and I enjoyed both 1 and 2 for what they offered (and DoW1 was my first look at 40k). I might try it if it goes on sale, but hard pass for now sadly.
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Bear in the Woods posted:The camera and playstyle seemed too MOBA-like for me when I saw some Youtubers play it, and I enjoyed both 1 and 2 for what they offered (and DoW1 was my first look at 40k). I might try it if it goes on sale, but hard pass for now sadly. I'd say it's worth downloading the free beta right now; it's free til Monday and definitely worth trying just so you can have a more informed opinion on it. I'm glad I played the beta, even if it's not thrilling me.
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So I'm putting the Shadow War: Armageddon terrain together and its great, but holy poo poo GW, there's a mistake in the instructions on literally every single page. Did somebody write these instructions while drunk, and then literally nobody at GW edited them? How does this happen? Its not the end of the world, but I'm just gobsmacked that nobody at GW tried putting a kit together and realized "hey, loving half of these instructions have the completely wrong lables"  Maybe they made the instructions for a previous sprue design, moved everything around, and didn't update the instructions? No, that doesn't even account for everything. Its just straight up hosed. They put no work into the instructions.  On the upside, kit came with more ladders than I expected. Too bad I already ordered a few from a 3rd party manufacturer!
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itshappening.gif https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/breaking-news/ FAQ: https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ENG_Warhammer40000-FAQ22ndApril.pdf
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Apr 22, 2017 14:12
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quote:Is my army still valid? Hype
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Apr 22, 2017 14:18
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CHAOS, IMPERIAL and NPC
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Apr 22, 2017 14:21
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Sounds like I'm about to get shafted and I'm not sure why.
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JBP posted:Sounds like I'm about to get shafted and I'm not sure why. If GW don't do it I'm sure Moola can come to your house.
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It really does seem like they're starting to make a game that actually supports selling their models rather than requiring customer buy a bunch of overpriced books & accessories just because. They're running with the best aspects of AoS and seemingly listening to feedback on rules & balance. Definitely looking forward to this.
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Apr 22, 2017 14:24
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This is a good thing for 40k and I'm really excited
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Apr 22, 2017 14:31
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I absolutely want to support a company that unironically has "Why should I trust you?" as a FAQ.
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Also lol that they still want you to buy the books that no longer apply to the game.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:I absolutely want to support a company that unironically has "Why should I trust you?" as a FAQ. Come on! This is New Games Workshop™
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Texmo posted:Come on! This is New Games Workshop™ I admit I laughed at that response. But still, I'm keen on this. Very keen.
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Texmo posted:Come on! This is New Games Workshop™
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Thundercloud posted:If GW don't do it I'm sure Moola can come to your house. That's boned, not shafted. Subtle differences.
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xtothez posted:Hype Tentatively excited. Seems like we're getting the good lessons learned from AoS TTerrible posted:It was just a conversion These look like they're the same size as the Deathwatch dudes
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MasterSlowPoke posted:This is super cute: Tyranids relegated to background material confirmed.
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So the faction page doesn't have a separate listing for skitarii and instead they are listed in the ad mech description. Is it an oversight or have they really combined them?
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the moose posted:So the faction page doesn't have a separate listing for skitarii and instead they are listed in the ad mech description. Is it an oversight or have they really combined them? They probably consider them the same faction, given that they Broke Ynnari Eldar out as a separate Eldar faction
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xtothez posted:It really does seem like they're starting to make a game that actually supports selling their models rather than requiring customer buy a bunch of overpriced books & accessories just because. They're running with the best aspects of AoS and seemingly listening to feedback on rules & balance. Seconded!
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the moose posted:So the faction page doesn't have a separate listing for skitarii and instead they are listed in the ad mech description. Is it an oversight or have they really combined them? There was a long rumor that a new book would come that combined both and added new units (including a flyer). Maybe they decided against it until now.
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There was a magical moment of silence in my store when someone announced the news. Followed by a mix of panic and excitement. Everything they've said sounds good. Like a wishlist of things people have been asking for forever.
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TTerrible posted:It was just a conversion They don't really look like that one converted model. Much smaller, that dude was more like a Terminator.
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I'm the Cheetos-cron. They should really just give the Eagle Ordinary lass a staff job at this point.
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