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Balon posted:Any tips on the prerelease tonight? 2HG at my LGS and I haven't studied the spoilers. Hope to open Cut//Ribbons which has the magic 2HG ruining text 'each opponent loses X life'
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Balon posted:Any tips on the prerelease tonight? 2HG at my LGS and I haven't studied the spoilers. your new keywords are Exert (when you attack with a creature, you can exert it, it will get a bonus effect but not untap during your next untap step) and Embalm (creature based flashback, but they're white zombie creature token versions of themselves). almost all embalm cards are good, cycling is always good. red black have heckbent synergy, if you go those colors your payoffs are having a handsize 1 or less blue green synergy is just steady ramp and card advantage, you should be trying to win with big blue flyers or fat green cards black green payoffs are any time you put -1/-1 counters on stuff black blue payoffs are cycling and self discard. scarab nest and the drake nest one can unravel quickly if you're in this strategy. white and blue, and white and black to a lesser degree, is the tokens colors. white and red is the exert strategy. there are also avenues that allow your creatures to untap. green white seem to just be consistent creature curve. there isn't a particular standout synergy here aside from a couple of tokens and some life gain. there is cat tribal synergy here but it is a little hard to attain. red green is normal stompy trample stuff. standard fare here. blue red is the typical spells/prowess archetype here but it isn't particularly strong because of how costed most of the instants and sorceries are. this is a color combo with a poor payoff. black white is all about zombies and the support for it in limited here is really strong, especially with white embalmed cards. for color combos this is probably tier one for draft decks because its so easy to jam into this archetype. most of the trials and cartouche enchantments are good and synergize well. the black and red monument artifacts are bad but the other ones are good.
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Apr 21, 2017 23:59
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Tales of Woe posted:Hope to open Cut//Ribbons which has the magic 2HG ruining text 'each opponent loses X life' does this work the way it sounds? i feel like it cant
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Apr 21, 2017 23:59
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its me glenda posted:does this work the way it sounds? i feel like it cant It does and it is also one of the things that made surged Fall of the Titans pretty dumb in 2HG. Ok it's not exactly the same but it works for a similar reason.
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Apr 22, 2017 00:03
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Apr 22, 2017 00:05
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I'm glad Heckbent is catching on as slang for 1-or-fewer cards in hand.
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Apr 22, 2017 00:04
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Quick rules question on cycling. So, some cards say "When X is cycled, do Y." Does the "Do Y" happen before or after the card is drawn? Here's the rules text I found that gives me pause:quote:702.28c Some cards with cycling have abilities that trigger when they’re cycled. “When you cycle [this card]” means “When you discard [this card] to pay a cycling cost.” These abilities trigger from whatever zone the card winds up in after it’s cycled. This implies to me that the "Do Y" happens before I draw the card. For example, suppose I cycle Shefet Monitor. I *think* the correct sequence of events is this following: 1. Pay the cycling cost 2. Shefet Monitor hits the bin 3. Search for a land happens 4. You shuffle your library 5. You draw a card Is that right?
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Apr 22, 2017 00:07
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Quick rules question on cycling. So, some cards say "When X is cycled, do Y." Does the "Do Y" happen before or after the card is drawn? Here's the rules text I found that gives me pause: Right. The ability triggers on cycling being activated and put on the stack, and is thus put on the stack above it and resolves first. Whatever triggers off of cycling will resolve before cycling's own Draw A Card.
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Apr 22, 2017 00:11
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Right. The ability triggers on cycling being activated and put on the stack, and is thus put on the stack above it and resolves first. Whatever triggers off of cycling will resolve before cycling's own Draw A Card. i thought you could order cycle triggers anyway you wanted, like with that green card that gets a land from deck when cycled, you could draw the card before getting the land if you wanted now why you'd want to i don't know but hey options
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Apr 22, 2017 00:12
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Quick rules question on cycling. So, some cards say "When X is cycled, do Y." Does the "Do Y" happen before or after the card is drawn? Here's the rules text I found that gives me pause: The card says you search for the land before you draw. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shefet+Monitor
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Apr 22, 2017 00:13
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actually now that scry is evergreen there are reasons to draw the card first if you know you want it. cool only took me way too long to figure that out
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Apr 22, 2017 00:14
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evilweasel posted:The card says you search for the land before you draw. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shefet+Monitor maro was right, we do ignore reminder text when we think we know what it says lol 
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Apr 22, 2017 00:14
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evilweasel posted:The card says you search for the land before you draw. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shefet+Monitor whoops
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Apr 22, 2017 00:25
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You can pay for abilities after actually activating the abilities, so does that mean you can pay for Tinder Wall's ability with Tinder Wall itself?
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Apr 22, 2017 01:12
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https://twitter.com/MelissaDeTora/status/855453167865053184 After all this time she just now becomes a full employee? Wotc is a poo poo company.
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Apr 22, 2017 01:18
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Second opportunity from what?
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Apr 22, 2017 01:19
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mandatory lesbian posted:You can pay for abilities after actually activating the abilities, so does that mean you can pay for Tinder Wall's ability with Tinder Wall itself? You can't sacrifice TInder Wall twice, so that doesn't work. If that weren't an issue, though -- say, if you wanted to activate Epitaph Golem's ability and needed to sacrifice Epitaph Golem itself to Ashnod's Altar in order to do so -- then I think that would be legal.
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Apr 22, 2017 01:21
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JerryLee posted:Second opportunity from what? They let her go a year or so ago, and took her back in a few months later.
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Apr 22, 2017 01:21
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Lottery of Babylon posted:You can't sacrifice TInder Wall twice, so that doesn't work. Ah yeah, second time not reading the card has got me tripped up today, what the hey
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Apr 22, 2017 01:26
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I'm really excited for the midnight pre-release. This set looks fun as hell. Cycling is just the best mechanic.
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Apr 22, 2017 01:32
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JerryLee posted:Second opportunity from what?
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Apr 22, 2017 01:36
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She signed up for an internship where at the scheduled end of the internship there was not the headcount to hire her even if they wanted to.
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Apr 22, 2017 03:11
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Thanks for the clarification. Normally when I hear "given a second opportunity," I parse that as "hosed up the first time."
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Apr 22, 2017 04:09
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JerryLee posted:Thanks for the clarification. Normally when I hear "given a second opportunity," I parse that as "hosed up the first time." Wasn't her first fuckup marrying Frank Lepore, or was that someone else?
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Apr 22, 2017 04:18
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Okay, enlighten me: What's so bad about Frank Lepore? Because I still watch his poo poo.
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Apr 22, 2017 04:28
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Oh wow Moeller did a lot of notable Lorwyn stuff. Notably, Pestermite and Sower of Temptation. He is also noted for things that terrify me, such as Just the Wind. 
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Apr 22, 2017 04:31
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Veyrall posted:Okay, enlighten me: What's so bad about Frank Lepore? Because I still watch his poo poo. According to the evidence that FL has fought really hard to cover up, he was cheating on MDT with a bunch of other women at tournaments, claiming love at first sight and copy and pasting the same messages to multiple women. After the guy that broke the story posted, several women corroborated.
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Apr 22, 2017 04:33
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Veyrall posted:Okay, enlighten me: What's so bad about Frank Lepore? Because I still watch his poo poo. He is a magic player
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Apr 22, 2017 04:34
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Angry Grimace posted:He is a magic player Wow, that's hosed up
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Apr 22, 2017 04:42
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I find him insufferable and don't think he has anything interesting to say.
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Apr 22, 2017 04:59
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frank lepore is a herb rear end bitch
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Apr 22, 2017 05:01
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Rinkles posted:I find him insufferable and don't think he has anything interesting to say. The best thing he ever did was drop to 1 life.
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Rinkles posted:I find him insufferable and don't think he has anything interesting to say. Yeah, he's a magic player, we JUST covered this. In all honesty, knowing he's a creeper who cheats on people has made me just ignored his videos. Also, his voice isn't great for narration.
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Apr 22, 2017 05:02
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My pool is 2 Archfiend of Ilfinir and 2 UB cycling lands. Promo is the black curse - bleh.
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Apr 22, 2017 05:33
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The Sexual Shiite posted:According to the evidence that FL has fought really hard to cover up, he was cheating on MDT with a bunch of other women at tournaments, claiming love at first sight and copy and pasting the same messages to multiple women. After the guy that broke the story posted, several women corroborated. Angry Grimace posted:He is a magic player 80s James Hetfield posted:frank lepore is a herb rear end bitch
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Apr 22, 2017 05:39
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I remember playing against Melissa de Toro in Providence, RI FNMs. I lost.  Edit: Am I correct that you can't withdraw from limited league queues in MTGO and get your product back? I've tried and it doesn't immediately return to my collection the way it used to and it's really frustrating considering it hasn't fired in 30 minutes.
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So during some early testing, I'm thinking As Foretold may be a really good card in UW Control if it continues to gain traction. being able to leave up tons of mana, or being able to tap out while still having counters live during your opponent's turn is super valuable. It can even let you Ancestral Vision immediately for free the same turn it comes out.
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Apr 22, 2017 05:50
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Balon posted:My pool is 2 Archfiend of Ilfinir and 2 UB cycling lands. Promo is the black curse - bleh. The black curse doesn't seem bad to me and LSV gave it a good review in his set review iirc
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 So this box was alright. One NO is foil. The draft was a lot of fun too. We only had 6 people but it worked. P1P1 Urborg Uprising, then get 3 elves in a row and get cut super hard, ending up with a lot of blue by the end of the pack when a Deep Analysis wheels. P2P1 Braids over some other cards that weren't Braids so I didn't look at or care about them, and I never looked back. My deck I lost one match to not being able to find my sideboard, which I think got mixed in with a bunch of other cards, and also pretty bad flood. The weirdest thing: my box was already pretty decent after the draft, but I let everyone who was in open one of the 6 extra packs. The rares were, in order: GSZ, Regal Force, Top, Wasteland, Top, Top.  Also weird, my pack 1 had 2 Kor Hookmasters and neither was foil.Braids was absolutely insane, aside from the game where I cast her on turn 3 and she got sent farming. She won me 2 games single-handedly and was instrumental in winning 2 others. My 2nd best card was actually Ichorid. Ichorid + Braids on a stalled board is just backbreaking. I also got to assemble Isochron Scepter + Counterspell at one point and kill someone with the Belcher. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Retromancer posted:So during some early testing, I'm thinking As Foretold may be a really good card in UW Control if it continues to gain traction. being able to leave up tons of mana, or being able to tap out while still having counters live during your opponent's turn is super valuable. It can even let you Ancestral Vision immediately for free the same turn it comes out.
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