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Jack Gladney posted:I can't believe he hit the Film Crew. That was great, and put out by Rhino, who were doing the MST3K releases at that time. He'd have to of had the biggest balls in the world to attempt it. Still, as others have said, I don't feel too comfortable poo poo talking the guy now. He's not a factor anymore and he had some really awful poo poo happen. If he kicks up a poo poo later on, sure, but for now just leave the guy alone.
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2DCAT posted:I always enjoyed going to the master pancake theater shows... Glad they didn't get sued into oblivion. Their live show for that Britney Spears movie was amazing and had me in tears. Yeah I saw them do Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves with Mary Jo Perl like a decade ago, and it was goddamn hilarious. I always check their schedule whenever I'm in Austin.
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Burkion posted:He'd have to of had the biggest balls in the world to attempt it. He's totally out. He sold his shares to shout, maybe even before he left television.
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His daughter died and in working through his own grief he decided to become a grief counselor. He has a private practice now and no longer does any tv work. I hope he's found peace.
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DoctorWhat posted:What happened to Jim? His daughter died. 
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My wife's dad died this weekend, and she had fond memories of watching MST3K with him as a kid, so I'm showing her the new show now. She really liked Reptilicus. We're winding down a bad weekend with cheesy movies and robot pals.
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Powered Descent posted:I don't think anyone's ever publicly gone into gory detail, but here's what Joel had to say in 1999: The liquid video thing came up in one of the early Cinematic Titanic episodes, too. The guy escorting them to the theater was talking about a movie spill where the Godfather movies got mixed together.
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Powered Descent posted:I don't think anyone's ever publicly gone into gory detail, but here's what Joel had to say in 1999: http://www.avclub.com/article/joel-hodgson-13595 here's the article, it's still up.
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I said it before, but now I'm rewatching Wizards of the Lost Kingdom really does feel like it's a movie sequal to a TV show that was never released. All the credits scenes are clips from that show.
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I haven't watched the episode yet, but it's apparently reused footage from Deathstalker.
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twistedmentat posted:Okay, what is the issue with Jim Mallon? I never was involved in the show in hits hayday, so I don't know all the behind the scenes strife that went on. quote:Mallon: I think Joel operated under the idea that this was his show, and everyone was working for him. And everyone else was into this sort of cooperative mode—that it’s all of us working together. So it would be somewhat analogous to John Cleese saying, “Oh, by the way, this is my show, and you guys work for me.” The rest of the Pythons would have probably taken exception with that. DMorbid fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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I'm on Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 2 now and...Oh god, this kid...
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BigRed0427 posted:I'm on Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 2 now and...Oh god, this kid... He's like Shaggy with absolutely all of the charm sucked out.
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OH GOD! DAVID CARRADINE! KILL ME NOW!  Edit: Ok, I did not think Jefferson Darcy would work in this film but it does. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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My first experience with David Carradine was Kung Fu The Legend Continues, so it always irrationally perplexes me when he's not playing Stoic Dude.
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I'm pretty sure that the stock footage fights from Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 2 are from another Carradine movie called the Warrior and the Sorceress which is a giant piece of poo poo.
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Next time around they should do The Sadist- the other, darker movie from Eegah's Arch Hall Sr., Arch Hall Jr., and Marilyn Manning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hecaE89__-8
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Jack Gladney posted:I can't believe he hit the Film Crew. That was great, and put out by Rhino, who were doing the MST3K releases at that time. If I recall (and I don't have a relevant article to source, so take this memory with a grain of salt), Joel wanted to revive MST3K after seeing Mike's success with Rifftrax. He went to Mallon, who promptly shot it down. So Joel created Cinematic Titanic in direct response to being denied an MST revival. In those early studio-recorded CT episodes you can kind of see experimental ideas that would be brought back in the new MST, such as the greater interactivity with what's on screen and the idea of "archiving" the end of the experiment using some strange nebulous (liquid) technology. Edit: Rollersnake posted:I haven't watched the episode yet, but it's apparently reused footage from Deathstalker. Watched it last night, and I recognized the castle courtyard set from Warriors from Hell at the climax of the movie. Also near the beginning there was a village raid that I'm almost positive used a couple of shots that were also from Warriors from Hell, including Crow's "DEAR GOD, NOT THE CHICKENS!" shot (unfortunately that riff isn't repeated here because it still cracks me up to this day). The movie also has Thom Christopher so I dunno, maybe that cheap looking castle set was his home and he just would star in any movie production company that pulled up onto his yard.  Edit 2: I mentioned it earlier, but I still wanna say how bummed I am that Dick Contino died. Dude was a helluva accordionist, and Daddy-O and Girls Town are among my favorite MST episodes. His old manager wrote about him on Satellite News and it's really touching. Ballz fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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8one6 posted:I'm pretty sure that the stock footage fights from Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 2 are from another Carradine movie called the Warrior and the Sorceress which is a giant piece of poo poo. That's actually where the cut "Carradine fighting a giant, tentacled monster" spillover footage that Ardy talks about is from. It does not save the whole movie. Either of them. Alehkhs fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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General Dog posted:Next time around they should do The Sadist- the other, darker movie from Eegah's Arch Hall Sr., Arch Hall Jr., and Marilyn Manning. Oh God he looks even more terrifying in that one
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What's the deal with movies getting spilled? e: jesus christ wizards 2 is starting off vastly different than the first one. i like the mortal kombat soundtrack its got going
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Pollyanna posted:What's the deal with movies getting spilled? It's a cheeky way to say they made major cuts to the film for the purposes of fitting it into the timeslot.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:It's a cheeky way to say they made major cuts to the film for the purposes of fitting it into the timeslot. Not that all the footage they're describing is necessarily "major" - the aforementioned "tentacled monster" scene cut from Wizards 2 is roughly 1 minute of inconsequential footage recycled from another film. Alehkhs fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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Gaz-L posted:Throw in some Kamen Rider and I'm down. Man I can only imagine how they'd react to some of them(I imagine their brains would break at any of the Decade movies, or the OOO's/Den-O/Ichigo & Nigo crossover movie), although a couple I think would legitimately work for MST3K purposes if they had dubs(ZO & J especially come to mind, although both are short enough they wouldn't need any trimming for time and indeed would probably need a short or two to reach the proper episode length) Larryb posted:That movie would actually make decent MST3K fodder to be honest. Come to think of it, have they ever riffed anything animated before besides that one Gumby short? They'd get a ton of mileage out of The Magic Voyage or The Troll In Central Park, or one of those obscure 80s Anime OVA's like say Cybernetics Guardian The Unlife Aquatic posted:Joel has talked about how he wants to maintain a "light PG-13" because of how much of the fanbase back in the day was kids and families. I think it's the right choice: raunchy enough that the kids get to feel like it's a treat to watch and mild enough that the average parent will be comfortable with letting kids see it. The only problem I have with this philosophy is that it will keep them from riffing Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky someday, which is a shame because that movie would be perfect for MST3K otherwise
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there is literally 1000+ Shaw Brother films. 10% are erotic 100% are psychotic Id say half are perfect for MST3k Riki-oh doesn't need any riffing to be entertaining as hell. Same goes for Miami Connection. The riffing would get in the way of the jokes.
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Miami connection is the rare bad movie I'd watch even without riffs. I wonder how hard they'll try to avoid recently rifftrax'd films
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Junkie Disease posted:there is literally 1000+ Shaw Brother films. It doesn't need riffing, but I bet some amazing riffs could come from it Also if anyone here has never seen The Magic Voyage, you should go look it up on Youtube, it's quite an experience EDIT: in fact let me save you the work(since it's not available for legal streaming and the DVD appears to be out of print, I figure this is fair), here's the movie on YouTube; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siaqu1hJgYw and a full playlist for it I just made since it's in a bunch of parts drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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A movie that I'd love to see riffed is Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn. I was always a bit disappointed they never did it during the original run, especially since they actually referenced it in a riff or two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOVRp_0tU7A Alehkhs fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Apr 24, 2017 |
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Personally i'd like to see them do Mac and Me. Even has Carnival nights promise of a sequel that never came to be!
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It might be too new, but one of my favorite terrible movies is DESPISER. It takes itself super seriously, it's the director's 3rd serious movie, which is why I think it could use a good riffing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEcgGEExCL8 Or you know you can always count on Val Kilmer in The Chaos Experiment, aka The Steam Experiment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjZIe3lwxgA
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Pixeltendo posted:Personally i'd like to see them do Mac and Me. They'd totally need to have Paul Rudd as a guest for that.
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I seem to recall a decade or so ago hearing new of a MST3K revival, and the internet getting excited for a hot second before Jim Mallon announced it was going to be a flash based online cartoon show starring the bots and no original actors. Whatever happened with that? Did it ever come out?
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Isometric Bacon posted:I seem to recall a decade or so ago hearing new of a MST3K revival, and the internet getting excited for a hot second before Jim Mallon announced it was going to be a flash based online cartoon show starring the bots and no original actors. Whatever happened with that? Did it ever come out? They made a few. They were terrible. http://mst3k.wikia.com/wiki/The_%27Bots_Are_Back
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Isometric Bacon posted:I seem to recall a decade or so ago hearing new of a MST3K revival, and the internet getting excited for a hot second before Jim Mallon announced it was going to be a flash based online cartoon show starring the bots and no original actors. Whatever happened with that? Did it ever come out? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Science_Theater_3000_(Flash_series) http://www.today.com/popculture/ex-mst3k-stars-writers-fill-hole-left-show-wbna21761730 quote:...Hodgson doesn't own the rights to the "MST" silhouette he helped fashion. That gold mine is in the hands of Jim Mallon, former executive producer. Mallon also owns the original theme song to "MST3K," along with the rights to the characters, the logo, the merchandise — and now a re-launched mst3k.com.
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I spent the week going through the new episodes, and overall I was really happy with what they did. Here are some of my thoughts: -Everyone did a great job. The cast clearly cared about this project and they brought their a-game to prove it. -On the other hand, it feels like they're dedicating less time to the parts outside of the theater than the original MST3K did. Some of the skits they did, especially the invention exchanges, felt like they were done as afterthoughts. -Likewise, the guest stars were, for the most part, pretty good, but they could have done more with them. The exception is Mark Hamill, who was utterly amazing. -The pacing of the riffs feels faster than the original MST3K, giving things a more high-energy feel than with Joel or Mike. -Crow and Tom's voices are a little too similar, it made it difficult to tell them apart in the theater if you weren't paying close enough attention. -They had a really nice variety of movies spread out over many genres. Fantasy, scifi, 70s disaster, whatever the Hell that bigfoot movie was. -There were not one, but two giant monster movies from somewhere other than Japan. -When I saw Joel show up dressed like Santa, it did make me smile like a little kid on Christmas day. -I love the new hallway sequence. -I never stopped laughing at Jonah's legs sticking out of the tube every time he was pulled into it for the opening. In the end, they did an excellent job. I had really high hopes and standards for MST3K's return, and they were well met.
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N'thing the praise for the reboot. They've completely managed to capture the casual charm and sincerity of the original, despite having new actors take the roles of old favourites and almost two decades inbetween. It feels like an earned continuation, without alienating new fans by being it too self referential, like many of these things end up being. I guess it helps that they've effectively done it before. Only minor complaint thus far (3 episodes in) is the skit segments are not very adventurous as far as cinematography goes. Every thing is perfectly flatly lit, taken from a single shot. Not that the original was anything that stood out mind you, but there was much more close-ups and studio colored lighting, particularly in the latter seasons. Presumably this has more to do with limited shooting schedule over anything else however. Hopefully a session 2. gives them more breathing room for playing with this sort of thing.
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If they do an animated film, they should do The Elmchanted Forest. It's a trippy Croatian film that was dubbed into English and shown on the Disney Channel a lot in the 80s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFIX3ED3peo
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:I believe someone said most of the Red Letter Media guys don't actually like MST3K or the idea of directly riffing over movies. Even though they've released their own audio commentaries, Rifftrax style. They know of it, though, and either pull movies from it occasionally or just have tapes of movies that have been on MST sent to them by fans. It's not that they don't like the idea, they just prefer to actually watch the bad movies and do their own riffing with their friends. They don't format Best of the Worst that way because they feel their riffing desperately needs editing to be watchable. Josh is an actual MST3K fan, for what that's worth.
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