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RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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Grimey Drawer

spacetoaster posted:

You just said that it has no universities and it's too expensive for poors.

I guess those could be considered good things by some people though.

there are plenty of poor people in new jersey, but those aren't the people leaving jersey, so they're irrelevant to the conversation (though plenty of poor people on the pennsylvania boarder are jumping over because the taxes are lower, like my brother who is solidly working class)

jersey is great because it has fantastic k-12 education, top 5 in the nation i believe and has access to two major metropolitan working areas (phila/nyc). so its great to be a kid there and its great to be a professional there. being poor anywhere sucks and no state is perfect, but if you want to understand "why people leave jersey" its not because its a miserable shithole. its because its a state that people naturally cycle into and out of. of my 3 siblings, only one lives in jersey (she just moved back because she's a rich nyc professional) and the rest of us have left. my friends who grew up there have mostly left. i'm sure some will return when they have money and families because its great if you have those two things.


ltugo posted:

I wouldn't exactly call Princeton and Rutgers scrub-tier schools.

two universities isn't nearly enough for a state of 9 million people. in addition, princeton isn't a "Jersey" school. its an Ivy league school with international draw.

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Sebastien Lenorman
Apr 12, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Kainser posted:

Ivanka Trump vs. Chelsea Clinton in 2024 is going to be great.

I think you mean


Election 2036
Chelsea Clinton [D] vs George P Bush [R]

:suicide:

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

RaySmuckles posted:

jersey is a miserable shithole.

I had to drive through jersey once to get to NY and it sucked. The roads are awful.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

bonerjam posted:

why is variety even shoving their grubby pick-esque fingers into politics anyway it'a a loving entertainment trade magazine.

Same reason even clickbait sites designed to flood social media get involved, theres an organized spin that happens behind the scenes by people with connections to make it happen. What's weirder is that people deny it when the pr machine is working for them, like 70% of our forums refused to accept that the whole bernie bro narrative wasn't just a spontaneous and organic criticism until the whole dnc email fiasco showed that yeah it was people callin in favors and pushing it. Then the same posters who called you a tin foil conspiracy theorists for pointing it out before the leaks did a 180 and said "of course it was planned out, that's just good campaigning".

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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Grimey Drawer

spacetoaster posted:

I had to drive through jersey once to get to NY and it sucked. The roads are awful.

cool story, bro

Sebastien Lenorman
Apr 12, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Nothing says "good driving experience" like new york city.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

bonerjam posted:

this is a real good post.

Actually if the election was like a battle royale type situation I'd probably actually bother to vote. Also someone please make an illustration of Trump drinking E&J out of Hillary's skull.

They should bring back gladiatorial combat, how come that went outta style again?

If I were president, I would bring that back. I would also change my title to 'Emperor' instead of 'President' and wear a toga and make our soldiers look like stormtroopers. "American Empire" sounds cooler than "USA" doesn't it?

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Gammatron 64 posted:

They should bring back gladiatorial combat, how come that went outta style again?

If I were president, I would bring that back. I would also change my title to 'Emperor' instead of 'President' and wear a toga and make our soldiers look like stormtroopers. "American Empire" sounds cooler than "USA" doesn't it?

United States of the Imperium is cooler IMO

Sebastien Lenorman
Apr 12, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
That ship has sailed for almost 100 years now. There is almost no real antifederalist movement and the president is seen as the one real leader of the country. Crushing segregation in the 50s and 60s by invading arkansas really was the decisive power grab for the federal executive from which we're not likely to recover. Might as well accept it and pick a bitchin' empire name.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

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VikingSkull posted:

United States of the Imperium is cooler IMO

Probably, but then Games Workshop would sue

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
new jersey is the best suburb ever, but being the best suburb ever is not a glowing recommendation

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Sebastien Lenorman posted:

That ship has sailed for almost 100 years now. There is almost no real antifederalist movement and the president is seen as the one real leader of the country. Crushing segregation in the 50s and 60s by invading arkansas really was the decisive power grab for the federal executive from which we're not likely to recover. Might as well accept it and pick a bitchin' empire name.

Five eyes should all get together and form the Anglo-American Empire.

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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Grimey Drawer

anime was right posted:

new jersey is the best suburb ever, but being the best suburb ever is not a glowing recommendation

pretty much

also has arguably the worst ghettos too! (camden/trenton)

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Sebastien Lenorman posted:

Crushing segregation in the 50s and 60s by invading arkansas really was the decisive power grab for the federal executive from which we're not likely to recover.

I want States Rights rebranded for internet. Municipal broadband offering high speeds, no caps for low prices, and won't keep copies of your dick pics in a Utah data center?

"Make Porn Private Again"

"The government knows when you masturbate"

And so on

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Accretionist posted:

I want States Rights rebranded for internet. Municipal broadband offering high speeds, no caps for low prices, and won't keep copies of your dick pics in a Utah data center?

"Make Porn Private Again"

"The government knows when you masturbate"

And so on

Good luck on your porn centered campaign. Can't do worse than pushing communism.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
It will appeal to a great silent majority.

Sebastien Lenorman
Apr 12, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Really, legal weed would be a better comparison. Its always fun to talk about desegregation with someone who is really gung-ho about states legalizing weed and thinks the federal government should stay out of it.

(In a purely thought experiment government policy dork kind of way, i don't want to claim i personally draw an actual moral equivalence between the two)

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Free Porn and Legal Weed.

State's Rights: Make Sex Private Again

State's Rights: Make Weed Legal Again

The oligarchy can afford buying out the federal government. If people started paying attention, could they afford to buy out 50 state governments? Over a thousand local governments?

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Accretionist posted:

Free Porn and Legal Weed.

State's Rights: Make Sex Private Again

State's Rights: Make Weed Legal Again

The oligarchy can afford buying out the federal government. If people started paying attention, could they afford to buy out 50 state governments? Over a thousand local governments?

Yes.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Gammatron 64 posted:

They should bring back gladiatorial combat, how come that went outta style again?

If I were president, I would bring that back. I would also change my title to 'Emperor' instead of 'President' and wear a toga and make our soldiers look like stormtroopers. "American Empire" sounds cooler than "USA" doesn't it?

the proper roman term for a president is consul. to make an emperor out of the US president you would have to be sneaky about it like Augustus and not change the title of office. a US emperor would be president, speaker of the house, chief justice of the Supreme Court, head of the NSA and CIA, and President of the senate all at the same time.

become excited if Trump nominates himself for next supreme Court appointment

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
I sometimes like to imagine how many voters democrats would gain overnight if they publicly ditched gun control. :jihad:

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Toadvine posted:

I sometimes like to imagine how many voters democrats would gain overnight if they publicly ditched gun control. :jihad:

A lot but their liberal megadonors hate scary guns and more importantly hate the wretched working classes that appreciate them.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
I just want every law-abiding, mentally-sound woman and POC in this country armed. Is that too much to ask?

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Yug posted:

A lot but their liberal megadonors hate scary guns and more importantly hate the wretched working classes that appreciate them.

Tbf if you feel the need to carry around a gun at all times in your lily white neighborhood you are the biggest pussy and probably dangerously psychotic.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Accretionist posted:

I just want every law-abiding, mentally-sound woman and POC in this country armed. Is that too much to ask?

Plenty of armed POCs in Chicago. I hear it's paradise.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Tbf if you feel the need to carry around a gun at all times in your lily white neighborhood you are the biggest pussy and probably dangerously psychotic.

Why is it stupid to carry around a gun in a white neighborhood but not a black one? What are you trying to say??

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Yug posted:

Why is it stupid to carry around a gun in a white neighborhood but not a black one? What are you trying to say??

It's stupid to carry one around in either, but most of the conceal and carry small penis havers I know feel the need to be armed for a trip out to the local hardees in their town of less than 2k people.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

It's stupid to carry one around in either, but most of the conceal and carry small penis havers I know feel the need to be armed for a trip out to the local hardees in their town of less than 2k people.
Is a small town of white people safer than a small town of black people? What are you trying to say here, why specify a white neighborhood?

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
you don't carry the gun you scrub you put it in a holster

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Yug posted:

Is a small town of white people safer than a small town of black people? What are you trying to say here, why specify a white neighborhood?

Well considering your fear mongering about "armed POCs" in Chicago, I assume you never left your suburb.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Well considering your fear mongering about "armed POCs" in Chicago, I assume you never left your suburb.

Is my suburb super safe for some reason? Is that due to the color of skin of the people living there? Just curious why you found it necessary to make fun of people who carry guns in all white neighborhoods. Just curious why you needed to make sure it was specifically a white neighborhood that it's dumb to carry a gun. Can you explain that decision?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mordor She Wrote posted:

It's stupid to carry one around in either, but most of the conceal and carry small penis havers I know feel the need to be armed for a trip out to the local hardees in their town of less than 2k people.

It's funny that the only arguments against it you can come up with are to make penis insults. :downs:

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

Yug posted:

Is my suburb super safe for some reason? Is that due to the color of skin of the people living there? Just curious why you found it necessary to make fun of people who carry guns in all white neighborhoods. Just curious why you needed to make sure it was specifically a white neighborhood that it's dumb to carry a gun. Can you explain that decision?

Because you're a white small penis haver and I'm making fun of you specifically?

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Yug posted:

Is my suburb super safe for some reason? Is that due to the color of skin of the people living there? Just curious why you found it necessary to make fun of people who carry guns in all white neighborhoods. Just curious why you needed to make sure it was specifically a white neighborhood that it's dumb to carry a gun. Can you explain that decision?

Suburbs eliminate shared spaces and isolate everyone in gaudy vinyl-sided cubes.

Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Because you're a white small penis haver and I'm making fun of you specifically?

How do you know the color of my skin exactly? And why are you so obsessed with other people's dicks?

You seem to have some pretty weird hangups on race and penises.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Yug posted:

A lot but their liberal megadonors hate scary guns and more importantly hate the wretched working classes that appreciate them.

I have plenty of family members up in Ohio who are passionate gun owners who could easily be swayed to vote D (locally at least) if it weren't for the persistent belief that democrats want to get rid of guns.

But to change that perception would entail the dnc reconsidering their approach to gaining voters and thats just not in the cards right now

Mordor She Wrote
Nov 17, 2014

spacetoaster posted:

It's funny that the only arguments against it you can come up with are to make penis insults. :downs:

No it's great when a small scuffle turns into a stand off because every goddamn idiot that can only validate their existence by carrying around a literally murder tool at all times decides that now is their chance to become Dirty Harry, the only problem is I don't want to get shot as part of their dumb dick waving ritual

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Mordor She Wrote posted:

Because you're a white small penis haver and I'm making fun of you specifically?

Actually average penis sizes are the same across races

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


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Grimey Drawer
behold: the special posting that is "gun chat"

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Yug
Aug 6, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Accretionist posted:

Suburbs eliminate shared spaces and isolate everyone in gaudy vinyl-sided cubes.

Rural living is definitely superior, it;s great to be around nature.

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