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A friend of mine was murdered. Please come to her memorial and yell murder is bad. Another friend was killed in a drink driving accident where he was drinking. Please come and yell drink driving is bad at that as well.
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Why will a whole bunch of people who didn't know our care for your friends go to the funeral?
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Apr 25, 2017 07:43
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Because the more spartacism we have the less death there is. I might walk in thinking dying to a murderer is good or that drink driving is good, but the yelling man will make me understand it is bad. JBP fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 07:45
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JBP posted:A friend of mine was murdered. Please come to her memorial and yell murder is bad. Another friend was killed in a drink driving accident where he was drinking. Please come and yell drink driving is bad at that as well. People think war is good otherwise we wouldn't keep going to war on the thinnest pretext. We're on the verge of war with North Korea because we think we are just and good and the way to express this is via mass violence. I also don't think people yelling "drink driving is bad" at a funeral would meet the objection you think it would.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:48
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That man yelled stop the war. Well Mildred, I'd never even thought of that.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:50
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I haven't attended an ANZAC anything since I took the uniform off quite a few years ago. gently caress jingoistic nationalism. That being said I wouldn't barge in and yell out like a yobbo either. Let people who are interested do their thing. They aren't hurting anyone. Maybe the trick for people in general is "don't be a dickhead" but I realise that as an Australian this is like asking people not to breathe.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:49
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I hate the jingoism of ANZAC Day but feel there are better avenues for protest than veteran walks, like the photo-ops of chickenhawk politicans, or anywhere where veterans aren't commemorating. My uncle is a Vietnam vet who takes the commemoration very personally and gets emotional remembering things. Despite the lovely patriotism infecting the day I think there's still room to speak out against it while respecting the space of soldiers who get something out of the service.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:50
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Given how much the LNP and media have screamed about 18C and how hard it has been pushed for in parliament it does seem that screaming works. Feel free to swap 18C with lower company taxes or what ever. I'm glad you are coming around to see this. Welcome comrade.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:51
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Just lol if you don't think people have forgotten we're at war.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:52
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Starshark doesn't understand that yelling stop the war at a dude in tears because he saw a friend get his face torn off might be bad and thinks that yelling stop drink driving at a memorial for a drink driver would get a round of applause.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:51
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The best part about yelling at what are essentially now civilians and/or grunts is they are wholly uninvolved with the decision making processes that lead to armed conflicts. Want to protest war? Great. Go to Canberra. JUST Canberra. If you can't figure out the address by yourself then you've got no hope and may as well pack it in.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:54
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JBP posted:Starshark doesn't understand that yelling stop the war at a dude in tears because he saw a friend get his face torn off might be bad and thinks that yelling stop drink driving at a memorial for a drink driver would get a round of applause. Such harrumph, wow.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:55
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JBP posted:Starshark doesn't understand that yelling stop the war at a dude in tears because he saw a friend get his face torn off might be bad and thinks that yelling stop drink driving at a memorial for a drink driver would get a round of applause. You still don't understand protest. That's really all that's stopping understanding here.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:57
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Starshark posted:You still don't understand protest. That's really all that's stopping understanding here. It helps if you protest to the right people though.
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Apr 25, 2017 07:57
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DancingShade posted:The best part about yelling at what are essentially now civilians and/or grunts is they are wholly uninvolved with the decision making processes that lead to armed conflicts. Write a stern letter to your local member. Indeed.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:01
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Please tell me more about misunderstanding protest as someone who has run multiple labour strikes and organised/marshalled anti WTO and internment rallies.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:00
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War is bad but so is acting like an rear end in a top hat during a memorial? I mean I'm no fancy city protester but maybe settle down a bit. Or keep chasing ideological extremes until you piss off everyone around you. You do you.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:01
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There's no point "protesting" without a plan to win or an ask that isn't some broad hippie poo poo like "stop the war".
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Apr 25, 2017 08:03
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JBP posted:There's no point "protesting" without a plan to win or an ask that isn't some broad hippie poo poo like "stop the war". Plenty of people protest without a plan. Sorry that life can't be contained in a spreadsheet as you like.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:05
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News Corpse have blown $1m trying to prove that they're not lying sacks of poo poo who will gently caress people over out of spite and failed to achieve that in the slightest
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Starshark posted:Plenty of people protest without a plan. Sorry that life can't be contained in a spreadsheet as you like. This doesn't make sense. Planning to win on an issue is crucial if you want an outcome. What you're espousing is idiotic spartacism and then comparing this dude to Rosa Parks who stood up for her specific interest group (as an accidental hero might I add) in a fevered environment, while a movement and support network operated around her, even if she wasn't an official of it or whatever. Also well done trying to tell me how I view life and invoking the spectrum.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:12
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Starshark posted:Write a stern letter to your local member. Indeed. I said go to Canberra not write a letter. Armchair activism is passive aggressive junk. You may as well write a blog about how your favorite video game isn't pure to the original spirit of the first one released in 1995. Nobody cares.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:16
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let's just can the whole thing https://newmatilda.com/2016/04/24/anzac-day-weve-said-thanks-enough-its-time-to-move-on/ or maybe if we organise enough people to turn ANZAC day into a memorial for the Frontier wars the right wing will can it for us
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Apr 25, 2017 08:15
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JBP posted:This doesn't make sense. Planning to win on an issue is crucial if you want an outcome. What you're espousing is idiotic spartacism and then comparing this dude to Rosa Parks who stood up for her specific interest group (as an accidental hero might I add) in a fevered environment, while a movement and support network operated around her, even if she wasn't an official of it or whatever. You don't get life as it's lived by real people. We don't all live life like Bobby Fishcer thinking six moves ahead. Parks certainly didn't count on MLK taking up her cause when she said 'no'. Also, no idea where you got autism from my post. Do you need someone to reach out?
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Apr 25, 2017 08:17
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Bogan King posted:News Corpse have blown $1m trying to prove that they're not lying sacks of poo poo who will gently caress people over out of spite and failed to achieve that in the slightest "News Corp declined to comment."  Nothing like a news outlet with nothing to say.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:18
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Apr 25, 2017 08:23
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Starshark posted:You don't get life as it's lived by real people. I'm not a real person
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Apr 25, 2017 08:22
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/25/manus-island-police-chief-says-he-has-not-been-contacted-by-peter-dutton-or-his-staff The potato king just keeps hitting those home runs.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:23
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Man yelling at Anzac service most salt of the earth real person.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:25
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JBP posted:I'm not a real person You've never done anything without the direction of your higher-ups, so yes.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:28
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Your idea of protest is a man with no affectation or symbolism yelling and you make personal assumptions about people on the internet. So good one I guess?
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Apr 25, 2017 08:29
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You know it's funny how much Peter Dutton embodies the Peter Principle.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:33
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Real people are the ones that have "done anything without the direction of your higher-ups" what planet do you live on?
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Apr 25, 2017 08:34
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JBP posted:Your idea of protest is a man with no affectation or symbolism yelling and you make personal assumptions about people on the internet. So good one I guess? You're as establishment as gently caress - it's an easy assumption to make.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:36
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This is a really fascinating slap fight, guys. Do go on for a few more pages.
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Apr 25, 2017 08:37
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https://twitter.com/TurnbullMalcolm/status/1059436604
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STOP THE lovely POSTS STOP THE lovely POSTS Am I protesting right
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Apr 25, 2017 08:37
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Korgan posted:STOP THE lovely POSTS no because you're actually addressing the people making the lovely posts, not screaming at their grieving family
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On the other hand, she is an idiot who seriously claimed a religion was both democratic and feminist, so it's really hard to feel sorry for her
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NTRabbit posted:On the other hand, she is a vapid idiot who seriously claimed a religion was both democratic and feminist, so it's really hard to feel sorry for her Oh please, tell me more.
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