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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Well, hey, just checked my voicemail and my HR guy left a message wanting to "discuss the terms of my employment."
I have really got to learn to keep my damned mouth shut (no, really, that's what got me here in the first place...)

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Adiabatic posted:

Fuckin jesus fuckin christ this is hellweek, boys

GET SOME

You okay boss?

Grats, Darchangel! I start my new life as an employee rather than contractor on the 1st, so apparently it's job changes all around.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I've driven 370 miles extra for work this week. My normal mileage in a week is like 50 miles for work. At least I've been paid for mileage and got paid for drive time for the 150mi trip. Dunno how people with commutes like this do it on the regular, because god drat this sucked. Fuckers down in tampa/st pete have it easy. :argh:

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

Darchangel posted:

Well, hey, just checked my voicemail and my HR guy left a message wanting to "discuss the terms of my employment."
I have really got to learn to keep my damned mouth shut (no, really, that's what got me here in the first place...)

HR is always full of the most useless toolbags in the world

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I've driven 370 miles extra for work this week. My normal mileage in a week is like 50 miles for work. At least I've been paid for mileage and got paid for drive time for the 150mi trip. Dunno how people with commutes like this do it on the regular, because god drat this sucked. Fuckers down in tampa/st pete have it easy. :argh:

I used to commute about 90 miles a day just to work and back, and would get paid extra for going to deliver permits, plans, ect and i'm so glad i dont deal with that bullshit anymore.

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005

BraveUlysses posted:

HR is always full of the most useless toolbags in the world

I've only worked at one place with a legit HR dept. but this is 100% accurate. I have personally advised coworkers to NOT take certain grievances to HR because I have watched them fumble everything handed to them that I was involved in.

poo poo, one year I got a yearly merit % increase AND a title change raise within a month of each other because I brought in conflicting paystubs and played stupid. I was pretty sure I was only supposed to get whichever was larger (this was true), but the director of HR himself "fixed" it for me and I got both :haw: This resulted in me making like, $0.08/hour more than my direct supervisor and good friend, who waited a month and stomped into HR asking why his assistant/fill-in made more than him. They had to give him a substantial raise. It was a loving awesome month.

The Royal Nonesuch fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Apr 25, 2017

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
In my experience it seems that HR exists for two reasons - to find legally-justifiable reasons to fire people, and to protect management from their own stupidity.

At my first "real" job (as a field tech to FujiFilm through a third party) I was actually written up for going to HR without first talking to my manager...about an issue with my manager. Because you know how well supervisors handle criticism about themselves from an underling :rolleyes:

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Isn't that against the law

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





HR can be hilariously petty too.

My office has a reserved covered parking space that gets awarded on a monthly basis to employees who get a specific recognition. This recognition isn't very common, and at our location anywhere from 0 to 6 people may get it for any given month.

The last time I 'won' the parking spot, they told me on a Tuesday afternoon on the third week of the month, meaning that because my two telecommute days are Wed/Thurs, I actually got to park in the spot for all of 4 days before the month ended.

So last month 2 of us got the recognition, so it's a 50/50 chance for the parking spot. On Friday of the first week it had still not been awarded, so I opened up a chat with the HR director, who said it was another HR persons duty, and they would be back on Monday. I might have been a bit sarcastic and said that if they weren't going to give it in a timely fashion so that it could actually be used, maybe they just shouldn't bother with it.

It's not like this is rocket science, the corporate office posts a list of recipients of the qualifying recognition on the first day of the month, and with 0-6 people to pick from.. well, dice or a random number generator or something...

On Monday.. silence. On Tuesday, silence. Telecommute on Wed/Thurs, come in Friday of week 2... someone is parked in the spot, which no longer has a sign reserving it for the award. So yep, because someone questioned their procedure and why it took most of the month to give out a monthly reward that ended at the end of the month, they actually removed the metal sign which was bolted to the support for the covered parking.

I found it pretty funny, yet at the same time it's a bit depressing knowing that your HR department is that petty, and makes me realize that I can never go to them with any 'real' issues.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

HRs main purpose is to protect the company, not the employee.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

InitialDave posted:

They're doing their part! Are you?



TELL ME MORE!

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

funny Star Wars parody posted:

Isn't that against the law

You'd be surprised what companies can get away with when "you wore a blue shirt on Tuesday, which everyone knows is red shirt day" is a legally justifiable reason to terminate someone.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

The Royal Nonesuch posted:

I've only worked at one place with a legit HR dept. but this is 100% accurate. I have personally advised coworkers to NOT take certain grievances to HR because I have watched them fumble everything handed to them that I was involved in.

poo poo, one year I got a yearly merit % increase AND a title change raise within a month of each other because I brought in conflicting paystubs and played stupid. I was pretty sure I was only supposed to get whichever was larger (this was true), but the director of HR himself "fixed" it for me and I got both :haw: This resulted in me making like, $0.08/hour more than my direct supervisor and good friend, who waited a month and stomped into HR asking why his assistant/fill-in made more than him. They had to give him a substantial raise. It was a loving awesome month.

166 dollars more than him over a whole year made him upset? :laffo:

OBAMNA PHONE fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Apr 25, 2017

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005

BraveUlysses posted:

166 dollars more than him over a whole year made him upset? :laffo:

Oh hahah, no - he didn't care at all. Like I said, we're good friends. He just used it as an excuse to act a little miffed and get a raise since he's titled higher/has more seniority.

The Royal Nonesuch fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Apr 25, 2017

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

I just found the new MST3K on Netflix.

I needed a lot of cheesiness and terrible jokes added to my life, it's been a lovely couple of weeks. I'll see you guys in a couple of days.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





The Royal Nonesuch posted:

Oh hahah, no - he didn't care at all. Like I said, we're good friends. He just used it as an excuse to act a little miffed and get a raise since he's titled higher/has more seniority.

To be fair, at an hourly rate, a supervisor/manager really *should* be making more than his subordinates. I've refused job offers for salaried positions where the salary seemed nice until you calculated out the hourly pay and realized that with the number of hours per week that were expected, I would be making less than the techs I would be managing (especially since they mostly worked the same hours, but got overtime pay). Nope.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

They've had to cap yearly incremental raises for some people where I work as they've been in bottom or bottom +1 positions for 25 years and were getting more than their supervisors who just got promoted or rotated in. Now they get a lump sum which doesn't count towards their pension or bonus calculations.

Understandably it pissed some people off but if you're happy to stand in an assembly line doing exactly the same job for 25 years I kind of agree with capping your pay.

My next promotion comes with an 8% raise but it also needs a big heap of bullshit courses competing so not this year.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

CornHolio posted:

I'm considering buying this to replace my '97 850 as a winter beater. Wikipedia tells me they were turbo only in the US. I've had my 850 for nearly eight years and it has 148k on it... but this one has a new timing belt, brakes, and tires; AWD, and it's a wagon where I only have a sedan. Should I? Would I be stupid not to?

Should ask in the Volvo thread. If he's telling the truth about the maintenance, then yes. That's a drat good value. And there is absolutely nothing unreliable about the turbo engine or 4 speed automatic. Dudes take those to 300k all the time, all you need is regular fluid changes.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

cakesmith handyman posted:

Understandably it pissed some people off but if you're happy to stand in an assembly line doing exactly the same job for 25 years I kind of agree with capping your pay.

Why? Did inflation stop?

Should they be losing money year on year to make you feel better about getting hosed over compared to the real starting wages when they started?

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

cakesmith handyman posted:

Understandably it pissed some people off but if you're happy to stand in an assembly line doing exactly the same job for 25 years I kind of agree with capping your pay.


I dont. Inflation exists. And if you are loyal for 25 years you drat well deserve pay rises. Come on, that's just plain being an rear end in a top hat to say someone who does a good job for 25 years aint worth paying more.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Sorry you're right, I phrased that wrong. Raises for those in question were capped at inflation, no further raises unless you progress.

E: I'd also like to point out we're talking about the absolute minimum skill jobs the company is happy to give to a day 1 new starter, there isn't a lot of fine graduation between doing a good job and forgetting to breathe :v:. Stick at it for 25 years and you'll get inflation rises, put in any amount of effort and you'll get a promotion petty much guaranteed.

cakesmith handyman fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Apr 25, 2017

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Inflation linked default pay rises would be a pretty sweet deal compared to what about 90% of manufacturing jobs seem to get.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках
Same for the service industry. Average wage for fast food minions here is about a buck above when I started working back in 1996.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Complete change of subject, because job talk and corporate bullshit always makes be depressed.

Slow cookers/crock-pots. Tell me about them.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat

KozmoNaut posted:

Complete change of subject, because job talk and corporate bullshit always makes be depressed.

Slow cookers/crock-pots. Tell me about them.

They're awesome. I like to throw a whole lamb shoulder in mine. Don't even bother putting anything else in, leave it on low overnight. Falling apart lamb.

I like to make curries in mine too, just throw everything in at the start of the day and come home to a nice vege curry.

If time is an issue, consider saute-ing everything first - more colour, more flavour and it gets everything up to temp quickly.

God-tier caramelised onions. Chop em, throw em in, come back 24hr later. I've done like 5kg of onion this way.

Get a big one, make sure it has a nice removable ceramic liner.

Mine's a Breville I think? It was given to me, I used to use it heaps until I got a sous vide set up.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


slothrop posted:

They're awesome. I like to throw a whole lamb shoulder in mine. Don't even bother putting anything else in, leave it on low overnight. Falling apart lamb.

I like to make curries in mine too, just throw everything in at the start of the day and come home to a nice vege curry.

If time is an issue, consider saute-ing everything first - more colour, more flavour and it gets everything up to temp quickly.

God-tier caramelised onions. Chop em, throw em in, come back 24hr later. I've done like 5kg of onion this way.

Get a big one, make sure it has a nice removable ceramic liner.

Mine's a Breville I think? It was given to me, I used to use it heaps until I got a sous vide set up.

Great, thanks for the tips. I have to try the lamb shoulder, is it OK to add it without any liquid at all? I've been told that there should be a minimum fluid level.

I hadn't even considered doing caramelized onions, but that's an amazing use, I love onions.

Would you recommend going straight to sous vide instead?

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Liquid Communism posted:

Same for the service industry. Average wage for fast food minions here is about a buck above when I started working back in 1996.

A few years ago, I worked retail for a small shop, making $10 an hour. One of my co-workers had worked on and off for the company for years, and he remarked that he started in the year I was born, 1988, at - you guessed it - $10 an hour. :shrug:

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

KozmoNaut posted:

? I've been told that there should be a minimum fluid level.

Would you recommend going straight to sous vide instead?

Depends on the food and what you want to happen to it, oily meat like lamb is fine.

No, they're totally different and do different things.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Liquid Communism posted:

Same for the service industry. Average wage for fast food minions here is about a buck above when I started working back in 1996.

When I left my last food service job, I was making $3/hr less than what I was hired at.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:

When I left my last food service job, I was making $3/hr less than what I was hired at.

Yeah, my last cooking gig was $3 higher than what I started at when I was 15. Computer janitor work pays vastly better, and I am much happier.

ephphatha
Dec 18, 2009




KozmoNaut posted:

Great, thanks for the tips. I have to try the lamb shoulder, is it OK to add it without any liquid at all? I've been told that there should be a minimum fluid level.

I hadn't even considered doing caramelized onions, but that's an amazing use, I love onions.

Would you recommend going straight to sous vide instead?

The minimum fluid level might be something specific to certain manufacturers. I've got an electric slow cooker with a heavy liner that happily runs with or without liquid. I've also got an electric pressure/slow cooker combo that I'd be real hesitant to run dry since it has a very thin liner and seems to aim for a pretty high heat in certain modes. They're also pretty versatile as slothrop points out, I've used mine for chilli, stew, roasts, and risotto so far.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


cakesmith handyman posted:

Depends on the food and what you want to happen to it, oily meat like lamb is fine.

No, they're totally different and do different things.

Ephphatha posted:

The minimum fluid level might be something specific to certain manufacturers. I've got an electric slow cooker with a heavy liner that happily runs with or without liquid. I've also got an electric pressure/slow cooker combo that I'd be real hesitant to run dry since it has a very thin liner and seems to aim for a pretty high heat in certain modes. They're also pretty versatile as slothrop points out, I've used mine for chilli, stew, roasts, and risotto so far.

Yeah, I guess the moisture and fat from the lamb itself is plenty, it's not like anything noticeable evaporates from the pot when the lid is on.

I figured you probably couldn't do the same stuff in a slow cooker as with sous vide, and vice versa. Caramelized onions sous vide would be rather silly :)

I'm going to look for a decent-sized slow cooker, around 6L or maybe a little bigger. Digital or analog? I guess it doesn't really matter much?

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Angus Beef works well without anything as well since it tends to have more fat in it. I also like meat loaf in mine.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Geoj posted:

In my experience it seems that HR exists for one reason - to protect the company
Fixed this for you. HR is there to protect the company. They also do hiring and pay bullshit but that's secondary.


KozmoNaut posted:

Slow cookers/crock-pots. Tell me about them.
They are the ultimate lazy and/or bachelor kitchen appliance. The little disposable baggies that you can get make cleanup a 30 second process. Most recent GWS slow cooker thread - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712282 The original one has been lost sadly, there was some good stuff in there.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

KozmoNaut posted:

I'm going to look for a decent-sized slow cooker, around 6L or maybe a little bigger. Digital or analog? I guess it doesn't really matter much?

I have a digital one.

It has ups and downs - the up is that you can just plug it in, select a cook time (from 4, 6, 8, and 10 hours), and forget about it. It switches to keep warm at the end of the cooking time.

The downsides: forces high temp for 4 and 6 hour settings, forces low temps for 8 and 10 hour settings. I learned the hard way that it can't even begin to reach temp if the kitchen is particularly cold - left a pot roast in it one night in the winter, turned down the apartment heat, and went to bed... it was only up to about 110F the next day (hadn't yet switched to keep warm; I only slept about 6 hours that night, but even if it had, 110F isn't warm enough for holding).

I'm kinda wishing I had a plain one with a knob and threw it on a timer. The plain ones supposedly are less failure prone too. But, it was free. :v:

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Seems like my computer is fixed. Thank the gods for Haus of Tech Support!

And now that I have three functioning computers of various vintages, I bought Worms: Armageddon from gog.com and installed it on all three, and figured out how to make the LAN work. Tonight will be a truly glorious night, friends.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Crock Pots are the poo poo. If you don't have one, get one. Tons of good recipes out there. A lot do include searing meat, but many don't and are true "1-pot" meals if that's important to you.
Also a handy way to do ribs before grilling if you don't do them completely on the grill.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

NitroSpazzz posted:

Most recent GWS slow cooker thread - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3712282 The original one has been lost sadly, there was some good stuff in there.

There's a larger older thread linked halfway down that page.

KozmoNaut posted:

I'm going to look for a decent-sized slow cooker, around 6L or maybe a little bigger. Digital or analog? I guess it doesn't really matter much?

I can feed a family of 4 from a 3.5l slow cooker, I kind of do want a larger one though. Mine has a knob for low high and auto, auto is high for 2 hours then low for 6. I bought it for like £10 to try it out and it's a success.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

I've totally gotten into crock pot cooking this year, but so far I only make one thing over and over. It's so easy. 3lb hunk of beef, sear it while chopping 3 lb of red potatoes, throw it in the crock with a 12 oz bag of baby carrots, some diced onion, and 4 packets of lipton beefy onion soup mix. Fill with water about an inch below the rim and wait 6 hours till you can cut the beef with a spoon, done. I recently bought a 7 quart crock just so I could match the quantities easier than the smaller one I had. Then we eat it for a week.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
If you don't have a slow cooker yet, consider an instant pot. Its far more versatile and still really affordable

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Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




What about smokers? What kinds/types do you guys use and recommend? Looking to buy my first one and would like something with temperature control and looking at pellet smokers at the moment.

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