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Apr 26, 2017 04:02
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goose willis posted:Used models on eBay can be a real riot sometimes  It looks like they were painted by melting crayons over them. I'm also digging the base that has been cracked in half. I appreciate that it's only 9 models. The 10th was probably eaten by a dog. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 04:05
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goose willis posted:Used models on eBay can be a real riot sometimes That sergeant unironically owns. Uroboros posted:I just had a set of Ultramarine templates made for me at Adepticon... I feel like it would make more sense having cover modify the to-hit roll, but I'm fine with it stacking with armor saves too. As long as it factors in in some way, it's an improvement over the current "either/or" system.
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Apr 26, 2017 04:28
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Thundercloud posted:One of the design team used to work for Mantic. This is extremely reassuring news, to me at least. Do we know which designer? Zuul the Cat posted:Has anyone heard back from GW Customer Service yet about getting refunds on their books? I got a polite "No" on my 30k Taghmata book. Forgeworld is only issuing vouchers for the Imperial Armour series that's intended for 40k.
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Apr 26, 2017 04:30
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moths posted:This is extremely reassuring news, to me at least. Do we know which designer? James Hewitt.
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Apr 26, 2017 05:26
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AOS has a few "blast" weapons. The Celestant Prime has a shooting attack that picks a point within range (24") then rolls a dice. Every unit within that many inches suffers d3 mortal wounds. This would be like a blast template. Another "blast" weapon in AOS is the Stegadon Flamethrower. It gets 1 attack for each enemy model in your targeted unit within 8" - effectively you are hitting every unit in your range. This is similar to a flamethrower template. I imagine that new40k could work very similar to this
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Apr 26, 2017 07:43
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So you pick a point and measure a circle around it? Good mechanic. I wonder what could speed it up and make it more thematic.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:27
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Will we need round measuring tapes for the new game?
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Apr 26, 2017 08:29
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Just a protractor and compass
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Apr 26, 2017 08:32
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moths posted:This is extremely reassuring news, to me at least. Do we know which designer? The one who did Gorechosen and Gangs of Comorragh. I can't remember his name. He joined a little while before the deposing of Kirby. Also did either the tree dudes army book for AoS I think. Edit: Masterslowpoke is right.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:34
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BULBASAUR posted:Just a protractor and compass Don't forget your sextant
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Apr 26, 2017 08:41
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All enemy models within 8° 2' 30" take 2 x 6 vigorous shakes of an abacus wounds.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:54
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Using a GW brand 2.5 cubits rod, strike your opponent about the head while yelling "blessed is the mind too small for doubt" to reroll any missed shooting this round.
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Apr 26, 2017 08:58
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Pawl posted:Stegadon Flamethrower. 
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Apr 26, 2017 09:00
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goose willis posted:Used models on eBay can be a real riot sometimes The sergeant is the reanimated corpse of Boy George.
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Apr 26, 2017 09:27
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One thing I like about the change to vehicle damage is that bolter marines feel less like ablative wounds. A 5-man squad with a melta and combi melta can still theoretically do damage with the bolters too instead of those being wasted. Same with devastators, if the bolters are in range.
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Apr 26, 2017 10:22
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Thundercloud posted:Edit: Masterslowpoke is right. Cool, thanks guys! How was his Dark Eldar game, anyway?
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Apr 26, 2017 11:31
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chutche2 posted:One thing I like about the change to vehicle damage is that bolter marines feel less like ablative wounds. A 5-man squad with a melta and combi melta can still theoretically do damage with the bolters too instead of those being wasted. Same with devastators, if the bolters are in range. 2nd edition dealt with this by allowing squad specialists to fire at the nearest vehicle while the rest of the squad fired at the nearest infantry unit. Imperial Guard heavy weapon teams could even detach from their squads and stay in place to support the advancing rifle section with heavy weapon fire. 3rd went too far the other way and not only cut that out but said heavy weapons counted as moving if any model in the squad moved that turn and restricted rapid fire weapons to 1 shot at 12" if you moved. As much of a mess 6th and 7th could be at least you could still fire your missile launcher or bolter at full effectiveness if Trooper Bob had to scratch his nose. adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 11:49
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moths posted:Cool, thanks guys! Good.
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Apr 26, 2017 11:54
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goose willis posted:When 8th drops, is there going to be some sort of fire sale on 7th-edition things like the various boxed sets because I'd definitely love another batch of Dark Vengeance models for cheap All the models will be in 8th, so I don't see why any of that would go on sale. Barring the store owner not understanding that 8th ed doesn't invalidate any of the models or boxed sets.
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Apr 26, 2017 13:14
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Some people will inevitably freak out and dump their armies on eBay, but people seem generally hyped for 8th. I'm guessing that when the "Get you by" lists come out people will flip poo poo about how "generic" they are. They'll rage sell, then grudgingly buy back in when the not-codex comes out a few months later.
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Apr 26, 2017 13:23
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They're almost certainly going to leave Dark Vengeance on the shelves, just without the rulebook/dice/etc, like how Isle of Blood was repurposed for AoS.
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Apr 26, 2017 14:05
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drat, between this rule reboot and a new Warhammer store less than a mile from me I might have to jump back into 40k after a 4 year hiatus. Oh, plus DoW3 coming out soon. I feel the warp overtaking me...
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Apr 26, 2017 14:12
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MasterSlowPoke posted:They're almost certainly going to leave Dark Vengeance on the shelves, just without the rulebook/dice/etc, like how Isle of Blood was repurposed for AoS. I dunno, there's a specific "what's in the new starter box?" question in the FAQ, which admittedly they don't really answer, but I don't think they would have put it in there if they weren't planning a new box.
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Apr 26, 2017 14:14
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Oh, there will be a new starter box too, but they;ll probably leave Dark Vengence for sale as a non-starter box.
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Apr 26, 2017 14:19
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This is neat, a new scenario for SWA that allows for 3 or more players: https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/40k8_SW_Armageddon_Grab_the_Cache.pdf
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Apr 26, 2017 14:21
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BULBASAUR posted:So you pick a point and measure a circle around it? There's nothing stopping you from continuing to use templates in exactly this fashion if they incorporate rules like that. I plan on keeping mine around just in case--I like templates, though they definitely cause more arguments and fiddly "who's under there" debates than they're worth. Also 7th edition making templates hit every single vertical level was a change I could have done without. The upside is that now weapons can have more variable radii as well--you aren't limited to just small/large blast and can have things like a 4" radius, 8", etc. On an unrelated note, I've got a game of SW:A tonight, playing Chaos Space Marines. Is there any guidance I should look at for building a roster in terms of boys vs. toys? Should I go mans-heavy or kit out a few guys?
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Apr 26, 2017 14:21
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lol "there's nothing stopping you from breaking the rules if they're poo poo"
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Apr 26, 2017 14:33
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:lol "there's nothing stopping you from breaking the rules if they're poo poo" lol if you read "use a premeasured disc instead of rotating a tape measure" as "breaking the rules"
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Apr 26, 2017 14:35
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moths posted:Some people will inevitably freak out and dump their armies on eBay, but people seem generally hyped for 8th. I don't know. When AoS did the initial lists, they were pretty detailed, stupid rules aside. With all the playtesting GW has been doing, I would think they would be retaining the flavor of the armies from the get-go. Again, assuming the AoS carryover, the not-codexes will be reprints of those initial "battle slates" or whatever they are going to call them, with the addition of art, fluff, and a couple of new formations.
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Apr 26, 2017 14:35
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Just got off the phone with customer service. Only codices and rule books are eligible for the voucher, as books like The Gathering Storm series, Wrath of Magnus, etc. are not eligible as they are mostly fluff and not rules. Well, poo poo. This is kind of a bummer because I bought the first book of Fall of Cadia specifically for the rules to field Cawl. I certainly didn't buy that one for the writing.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:36
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Zuul the Cat posted:Just got off the phone with customer service. Only codices and rule books are eligible for the voucher, as books like The Gathering Storm series, Wrath of Magnus, etc. are not eligible as they are mostly fluff and not rules. booo, that sucks who the gently caress bought Wrath of Magnus for the fluff
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Apr 26, 2017 15:38
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TheChirurgeon posted:lol if you read "use a premeasured disc instead of rotating a tape measure" as "breaking the rules" rules say do x, you do y.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:47
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TheChirurgeon posted:booo, that sucks I'm so confused. The book literally has rules for 3 characters that you cannot field unless you have the books, because they didn't make the rules available for them in PDF form, plus all the formations. Those...those are rules.  I don't think what the guy told me is accurate. The response email from GW states: - WARHAMMER 40,000 VOUCHER: If you are contacting us about receiving a voucher for a recent purchase of a Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, codex, or campaign book, then you will need to provide proof of purchase (picture of the receipt, order number, etc.) and a picture of the book(s). This is only applicable to purchases made between the 25th of February 2017 and the 22nd of April 2017. Zuul the Cat fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 15:48
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/26/warhammer-40000-weapons/ Flamers are now Assault D6 automatic hits, and Lascannons are D6 damage with -3 to saves. Bolters don't get any AP value, so it looks like the token armour saves on light infantry will have a use at last.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:49
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:rules say do x, you do y. Boy you sound like a blast to play games with "This weapon hits everything within 3 inches of this spot" *puts down a plastic disc that is 6 inches in diameter" "hold the phone, you loving cheater"
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Apr 26, 2017 15:53
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xtothez posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/26/warhammer-40000-weapons/ I always find this stuff confusing given that bolters are basically rocket propelled grenade launchers. Like a lasgun/flamer and bolter should probably have varying penetration vs armour. A bolter should be -1 but I'm about to turn into a frothing fluff ham and I also know nothing about the game more widely than this so I'll shut up. e: does this mean power armour gets a 6+ against a lascannon? I guess marines are becoming more durable, so that's interesting.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:53
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Surprised lascannons aren't -4 AP. 6+ power armor saves vs. lascannon wounds comin' atcha.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:53
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The line about "Against something like Guardsmen or Orks though, this formidable damage output will be wasted." is interesting. In AoS, damage carries over to the unit as a whole but it sounds like 40k it's more dependent on hits rather than the weapon's damage.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:55
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S isn't capped at 10 any more. I wonder what this will mean for D weapons and stuff now. Shaping up to be a pretty big rule change compared to the last few.
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Apr 26, 2017 15:57
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