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FizFashizzle posted:If neither Adams or Fournette are there, just take OJ Howard. I am convinced the Panthers are gonna draft Howard and are trying to play it cool. Print. The. Shirts.
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Watch there be a double whammy of the Panthers taking Mixon with their first and him exploding his rookie season just to piss off the most goons possible in this thread
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Doltos posted:Watch there be a double whammy of the Panthers taking Mixon with their first and him exploding his rookie season just to piss off the most goons possible in this thread Sorry, the Panthers wont sign a lovely human being until next year to get the maximum effect of bad PR from drafting a turd AND Rae Carruth being released in the same year. Edit: Rae Rae's scheduled release date is Oct. 2018 waah fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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What if the Browns draft all the QBs and create a QBs shortage? (By playing them and ending 4 careers this year) Edit 5 if you count Brock having a career.
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waah posted:Sorry, the Panthers wont sign a lovely human being until next year to get the maximum effect of bad PR from drafting a turd AND Rae Carruth being released in the same year. Carruth gets out this year? If so, when? It's important so I can have my autographed Rae Carruth rookie card delivers to Fiz on that date.
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https://twitter.com/john_wawrow/status/857310677526040576
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Bengals are going to take Mixon because Mike Brown doesn't give a gently caress
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/857313022804709377 Where can I sign up for this?
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mcmagic posted:Where can I sign up for this?
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wandler20 posted:Carruth gets out this year? If so, when? It's important so I can have my autographed Rae Carruth rookie card delivers to Fiz on that date. Oh man that'd be so ace
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Diva Cupcake posted:Short of a trade down, can't imagine anyone being upset with either Adams or Hooker at 6. I'm fine with OJ Howard too.
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/857313022804709377 Have fun with is eternally broken hamstrings
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I'm becoming more fine with OJ Howard after seeing McCaffrey mocks.
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warcrimes posted:Have fun with is eternally broken hamstrings
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It's trying to quantify the eye test and sucks at it. Some of the metrics they can track are pretty cool, but their grades are pretty bunk. I've never looked at their college grades, but the problems seem like they would be made even worse by the severe level of competition differences.
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Sataere posted:What is the consensus on PFF and their grading system for players? Good if it helps your narrative, bad otherwise
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89 posted:I heard somebody do some analysis of this draft on corners. Their idea is that this draft class is FAR from an all time great corner class....BUT it's just that there are so many serviceable corners in this draft. Is this right?
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Kalli posted:It's trying to quantify the eye test and sucks at it. I was looking at how they explain it and I think this sums up what I was thinking. I think game tape is the most important factor, but if isn't the only factor. I'm playing around with an idea of making my own standardized grading system, but it seems to me that the way they set their scale just ignores too many important factors.
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Diva Cupcake posted:That's Lattimore. Hooker is the torn labrum guy. You are absolutely correct
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Cross posting this from the Draft pregame thread in case any of you guys missed it and want to participate.quote:
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a new study bible! posted:Lol at the Browns Can you be more specific?
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How retarded do you have to be as an organization to have the number 1 pick and still be in the middle of a panic over not being able to get the first round QB that you want to draft? Just draft the Tub overall number 1 because you are going to waste the pick anyway.
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a new study bible! posted:How retarded do you have to be as an organization to have the number 1 pick and still be in the middle of a panic over not being able to get the first round QB that you want to draft? Just draft the Tub overall number 1 because you are going to waste the pick anyway. Oh that, yeah I don't get the logic either. So you need a QB. You think (right or not) that it's worth somewhere between #1 and #12 to take him. You have #1 and #12. Most of the teams between #1 and #12 either have no QB, or have very old QBs. Also every GM is a lying fucker, keep that in mind. IF you think that, then skipping the QB at #1 in the hopes you can trade up and get him between #1 and #12 is dumb, because almost everyone between #1 and #12 is a candidate to poach him from you, and you can't trust what anybody says about what their own plans are. I mean, the #2 team has poo poo for QB. The #3 team has a poo poo QB. The #4 team has a poo poo QB. So does #6. #7 and #11 have old QBs. #10 *should* have their QB, but the team is schizophrenic about it so who knows. Assuming you will be able to trade up in front of whoever agrees with you about there being a QB worth taking at the top of the draft, when everyone is blowing smoke about their own intentions, seems like an awful strategy. Just blow #1 overall on the QB *IF* you think your franchise savior is sitting there (for some dumb reason) and get it over with.
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fsif posted:I just watched a highlight video of Pat Mahomes and I swear it was indistinguishable from an EJ Manuel highlight reel I watched in 2013. lol
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sean10mm posted:Oh that, yeah I don't get the logic either. Or, you could assume you're probably not going to get that QB, take the guy you want with your #1, but go ahead and approach teams in the middle range with offers to possibly trade up for their pick if the QB you want happens to still be available when their pick comes up. So you don't have to try and hash out a deal like that from scratch while the team is on the clock.
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Armando just posted that the Dolphins preference in the first round goes: 1) Barnett 2) Harris 3) Davis 4) trade down 5) Tankersly (though they prefer him in the second round). I'm pulling for Davis or a trade down. No way Barnett is available.
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Sataere posted:What is the consensus on PFF and their grading system for players? I'm convinced that they can't contract with almost every team in the league without degrading their public product. So I don't know if they're still useful.
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Alaois posted:funslinging IS an asset, to totally rad and fun to watch games agreed. I loved Grossman and cutler and would find it hilarious to have mahomes on the bears
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Browns how about this...gently caress a QB this year and get me a team he can throw to and a QB next year. Get Garrett and Howard.
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Gatts posted:Browns how about this...gently caress a QB this year and get me a team he can throw to and a QB next year. Get Garrett and Howard. This really is what the Browns should do.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:This really is what the Browns should do. That's how I feel. Carr, Wilson, Cousins, Dalton, Dak and even Kaepernick/Bridgewater all show that you can build a competent team and plug in 2nd-4th round QB's now and find success. That seems better then the talent dry teams grabbing QB's top 10 which has given us over that timeframe: Hits: Cam, Luck, Stafford, Tannehill Misses: Sanchez, Bradford, Gabbert, Locker, RG3 Not sure, trending positive: Mariota, Winston, Wentz Not sure, trending negative: Bortles, Goff Of course plenty (most) round 2-4 QB's loving fail, but at least that only costs you a later pick and not like Eric Berry or Kalil Mack. And QB's in better situations tend to have way higher hit rates for some mysterious loving reason.
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Okay, picture Cam Newton in your head. He's dunked on the entire defense, scored a hilariously easy for him touchdown, he does his Superman pose. Imagine that shilling for JC Penney https://twitter.com/DeshaunWatson4/status/857345665785057282 That's not a #1 overall look Watson.
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Isn't JC Penney closing like all of its stores as well?
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Kalli posted:That's how I feel. I didn't do a whole lot of research on it, but I did ask myself what's the most basic common denominator on whether a potential franchise QB becomes a success, and I feel like there's pretty compelling evidence that the more complete a team is, the more likely a QB is to succeed. Especially having a dominant defense. If you look at the dynasties in the Super Bowl era, Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana, Kelly, Brady all went to teams that were either building or already had dominant defenses. Favre went from an afterthought to The Man as soon as the defense was good enough to compensate for his funslinging gently caress-ups. Ben, Rivers, Eli, Flacco, Wilson and even Dalton also fit the idea that a QB's success is predicated on having a a great defense. Of course, there's outliers like Marino, Elway, PFM (and I also include Luck in this group), and both the Aikman and Prescott Cowboys. The former being the ultra rare archetypal QB, and the latter bolstered by all-time great offensive lines, which seems to be the only other method then having A) an extremely dominant defense, B) drafting a generational talent.
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Who the gently caress wears JC Penney to their draft night? I'm taking him off my board if I see that.
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