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Anidav posted:One Nation is mostly contained within the Ipswich area. ALP is only hosed if the plague goes south or inner north while the LNP claws back it's natural Gold Coast stronghold and stabs Brisbane in its cold black heart. http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2016/07/one-nation-support-at-the-2016-federal-election.html Come on mate, it took me 5 seconds to find this. For the only person in this thread who has any hope left for the hellscape that is Queensland you really don't know much about the state.
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Sparticle posted:http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2016/07/one-nation-support-at-the-2016-federal-election.html The northern seats are more likely to preference flow to Labor.
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Anidav posted:The northern seats are more likely to preference flow to Labor. I'm talking about the idea that One Nation support is being contained within Ipswich.
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Sparticle posted:I'm talking about the idea that One Nation support is being contained within Ipswich. I mean sure there could be a few north and south but I would expect a cluster to appear West more than anywhere else.
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starkebn posted:I've read a few comments pages about this and there's plenty of people saying it's offensive but not one explanation on why it's offensive. Source your quotes.
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Anidav posted:I mean sure there could be a few north and south but I would expect a cluster to appear West more than anywhere else. Ipswich is as west as Labor is left. Queensland is not just the South East.
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phon gunna win balance of power E: "Philip Dorling writes that many commentators failed to note that One Nation had run candidates in just 35 of the state's 59 lower house seats. In the seats it contested, the party won 8.47 per cent of first preference votes and in 10 electorates it won more than 10 per cent. This is the figure analysts should have emphasised, says Dorling." asio fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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"but in the paper entitled Western Australia: Epic fail or huge win?" Thanks Australia Institute
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Rational actors in a free market, etc. Those projections sure are truthy, and have the optimism of similar claims for the Greens.
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ewe2 posted:Rational actors in a free market, etc. Those projections sure are truthy, and have the optimism of similar claims for the Greens. I won't insult your connection to Qld outside the SE corner and agree with you that yes, PHON has the same chance as the greens.
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Cartoon posted:And now for the new bike helmet kerfuffle: Kids and mobile phones. What age is too young? How much more can our authoritarian regime push its hentai like tentacles into our private lives? When personal computers were in their infancy (Exidy sorcerer, TRS80 etc) everyone was falling over themselves to get kids involved with technology now it's taboo till 14? On the one hand I get that mobile addiction and phone related sleep deprivation are real issues and there is scant evidence that using a phone makes people better at using technology. In particular developing the skills needed to service that technology but regulating for what should be a parental responsibility? This is definitely a family thing that doesn't require regulating. We're trying to keep SMG away from phones and stuff (she's only 17 months old, after all) mostly for it's impact on social skills - we've seen nieces, nephews and cousins who would rather play on their iPad then play with their friends at birthday parties, for example. For a kid a mobile phone is just another toy but it's one that can take up all your time and offer multiple entertainment options. But if your kid was playing with a single toy all the time and ignoring friends and family to do so wouldn't you want to wean them off a bit? Of course on the flipside it's a lot easier to keep a kid happy with something like that as they can entertain themselves quietly when you need to do various household chores, etc. It's all about balance I guess - I played a lot of video games as a kid but I wouldn't ditch friends to do so, and that was partly due to my parents encouragement to do stuff other than play games all the time.
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“We are heavily involved already in the fight against this evil caliphate and if the Americans want additional Australian assistance I think we should certainly be prepared to consider it, we should be disposed to do it,” the former prime minister told 2GB. Literally the day after Anzac day... LEST WE FORGET
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Sparticle posted:Ipswich is as west as Labor is left. Queensland is not just the South East. Not many seats out further west than Ipswich. Queensland has those mega seats that cover huge chunks of land if you go out much further.
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Sparticle posted:Ipswich is as west as Labor is left. Queensland is not just the South East. EDIT: Beaten by the dav.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Considering there's three seats between Ipswich and the border, yeah it kind of is the west in an electoral sense. pipped at the post
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hooman posted:“We are heavily involved already in the fight against this evil caliphate and if the Americans want additional Australian assistance I think we should certainly be prepared to consider it, we should be disposed to do it,” the former prime minister told 2GB. no, but you see he said it after ANZAC day, you're just not allowed to forget ANZAC day on ANZAC day
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That kid who wanted to drive to Perth isn't getting charged with anything.
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starkebn posted:no, but you see he said it after ANZAC day, you're just not allowed to forget ANZAC day on ANZAC day Well you know.. poo poo happens.. *long minutes of nodding*
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hooman posted:Well you know.. poo poo happens.. 
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One Nation Calls For Tighter Restriction On Who Can Emigrate To Their Party [Backburner]
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*pulls out Time Machine*   Okay, now lets add in my 2018 projection: 
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Anidav posted:Not many seats out further west than Ipswich. Queensland has those mega seats that cover huge chunks of land if you go out much further. What I'm getting at here is that you are ignoring PHON influence in areas outside of the southeast. PHON is huge in the regional southwest (also the central coast). Half of my extended family live there and they all voted One Nation in the last federal election. It may take just one of these electorates to give them the balance of power (I sure am glad we have no upper house). It might not happen this election or even with PHON but eventually they are going to vote in someone just a horrible. I wouldn't even blame them, sure their anger at the system is directed in the wrong place but that doesn't make it any less real. They know urban areas don't give a gently caress about them and they are right. You said it yourself by pretending that One Nation support stops at Ipswich.
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starkebn posted:I've read a few comments pages about this and there's plenty of people saying it's offensive but not one explanation on why it's offensive. She admitted it was inappropriate and deleted it so they can just say OFFENSIVE and let people assume the worst, even though it was barely an eyebrow raiser statement on remembering the impact of war - something like "lest we forget Manus naruu Syria Palestine"
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Anidav posted:But the map in their peak is a cluster around Ipswich West? You're right, nothing has changed in the last 20 years. The Nationals still have lots of power within the LNP and country folk still trust them.
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Sparticle posted:Your right, nothing has changed in the last 20 years. The Nationals still have lots of power within the LNP and country folk still trust them. I agree with all of the above.
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asio posted:I won't insult your connection to Qld outside the SE corner and agree with you that yes, PHON has the same chance as the greens. It's not PHON's chances so much as the media whiplash and wild assumptions. They're reaping a protest vote but projecting anything beyond that is bunkum. They'll get further in Queensland than anywhere else, though. To me it's a threat to other right parties more than a significant powerbase.
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Anidav posted:*pulls out Time Machine* scrunt would be a step up
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I mean I'm sure it's possible for PHON to make gains elsewhere but any gains they make has to start in Ipswich. It is the Mothership. Queensland is literally Metal Slug 3.
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Also, it hasn't been a good 12 months for PHON. They've had constant gently caress up after gently caress up; they're bleeding candidates left and right, constant in-party conflicts, Rod Culleton shat the bed for them and the WA election, while actually a decent outcome for PHON, wasn't the glorious victory they had been hyping it up to be. During the federal election, they were enjoying that boost of swing voter love but now that's gone. The longer the QLD ALP put off the state election, the worse PHON's situation will be because they cannot hold a party together long enough.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Also, it hasn't been a good 12 months for PHON. They've had constant gently caress up after gently caress up; they're bleeding candidates left and right, constant in-party conflicts, Rod Culleton shat the bed for them and the WA election, while actually a decent outcome for PHON, wasn't the glorious victory they had been hyping it up to be. Do we have evidence that PHON voters pay attention to the news other than the sports pages?
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Starshark posted:Do we have evidence that PHON voters pay attention to the news other than the sports pages? PHON encourages a conspiracy theorist's attitude toward media and dissent. Anything that agrees with them is them winning, anything that disagrees is a plot to hide the Truth and Righteousness of their Cause.
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