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Irony Be My Shield posted:Isn't the Surrey Labour party standing down to try and unseat Hunt? Hope so, seeing the smirk whiped off that twats face might be the only good thing to come out of this election.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:02
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To be fair if Labour manage to hold the Tories to another relatively small majority its going to be a humiliation for May. Hard for her to spin the idea that putting the country through a general election was worth it for an extra ten or so seats. Plus I'm still hoping the new polling methodology will come back and bite the Tories if the youth vote can be arsed to turn out this time.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:02
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MikeCrotch posted:There's a lot of bad blood on both sides in that regard though - look at how often Tim Farron is bashing Labour compared to how often he actually criticises the government. I don't think there's a lot of room for either side to negotiate on electoral pacts given how quickly both Labour and the Lib Dems shot down the idea of a coalition. I'd settle for not letting the Tories get a massive majority before I start to worry about Labour forming a government. I just don't see the latter as very likely unless something unforeseen occurs relating to the Tory campaign.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:04
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jabby posted:To be fair if Labour manage to hold the Tories to another relatively small majority its going to be a humiliation for May. Hard for her to spin the idea that putting the country through a general election was worth it for an extra ten or so seats.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:10
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Lovechop posted:it's so loving insane how he claims to be a liberal. just the weirdest thing. He's been shifting more and more libertarian right as time progresses
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Apr 26, 2017 23:10
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Firos posted:What's it got in its pocketses, precious? All the lib dem signs I've seen have "winning here" on them. I guess it's a slogan or something. Had a very strange experience on the way to the garage the other day. Driving past one of the big roundabouts on the ring road, right in the middle there were a couple of lib dems waving signs and one guy (who I assume is the local candidate) in a hideous orange tie waving and gurning at passing cars. Going back the other way ten minutes later they'd vanished. I wonder how many times they got told to gently caress off that morning.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:11
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Wolfsbane posted:All the lib dem signs I've seen have "winning here" on them. I guess it's a slogan or something. Might have just been a bit of a photo op?
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Apr 26, 2017 23:13
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Reminder: The current parliament was elected when the Tories had a 6 point national lead. And, as Jabby said, even a small loss is a big win for labour. So, the aim at the end of this election is that the Tory vote-share lead would be 8-10 points: Enough that they'll gain 15-25 seats off labour, but not enough to offset losses to the Lib Dems, and make Theresa May look like a fool for calling this election. As cynical as it sounds, thats what victory looks like at the moment.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:22
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This is like the best thing that could happen to Sarah Olney. I just don't see him winning this no matter how well the Tories do.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:21
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Darth Walrus posted:May defends the 'principle of fairness' that requires mothers to prove they've been raped in order to claim tax credits for a third child. This poo poo is loving medieval in it's hatefulness and misogyny.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:24
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nothing to seehere posted:Reminder: The current parliament was elected when the Tories had a 6 point national lead. And, as Jabby said, even a small loss is a big win for labour. So, the aim at the end of this election is that the Tory vote-share lead would be 8-10 points: Enough that they'll gain 15-25 seats off labour, but not enough to offset losses to the Lib Dems, and make Theresa May look like a fool for calling this election. As cynical as it sounds, thats what victory looks like at the moment. It would be funny if that caused the tories to implode.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:25
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EmptyVessel posted:This poo poo is loving medieval in it's hatefulness and misogyny. Has this generated the same wave of anger down south as it has in Scotland? Because it's been a big thing here, with everyone slamming the Tories cruelty, and it even leading to a rare moment of Kez Dugdale getting good press. Though the SNP seems to be getting away with doing nothing to counter this monstrous policy.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:44
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:He's been shifting more and more libertarian right as time progresses don't know if even that's the word for it to be honest. he's been chatting about how everyone should vote for marine lepen and all that poo poo.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:12
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Plugchat: when I first came to the UK I was so loving surprised at the power plugs here. They're HUGE, you can swing them around and use them as medieval flails. I love them for some reason, plugging stuff in is strangely satisfying. Also I find the fact that every single wall socket has a small switch right beside it to turn it on and off so convenient in some cases.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:15
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Pochoclo posted:Plugchat: when I first came to the UK I was so loving surprised at the power plugs here. They're HUGE, you can swing them around and use them as medieval flails. I love them for some reason, plugging stuff in is strangely satisfying. Electricity is serious.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:16
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Pochoclo posted:Plugchat: when I first came to the UK I was so loving surprised at the power plugs here. They're HUGE, you can swing them around and use them as medieval flails. I love them for some reason, plugging stuff in is strangely satisfying. As I recall, that wasn't intended to be the case, they were suposed to use two pin plugs for most things and the big three pins for only high power items. But everyone just put three pins everywhere. We also use an odd wiring architecture compared to the Americas, and just to be fun, someone deliberately invented the walsall gage 13A to be very slightly different from BS1363 so that you can't use the two together.  Also you get to enjoy dropping BS1363 plugs on your foot and knacking it.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:24
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I must admit though, when I learned that shavers and electric toothbrushes have a different power plug (similar in appearance to the old style bipolar plug we had in the 80s/90s in Argentina but not the same spacing/thickness) I was baffled. Here's a country that was doing everything right so far (this was before the Brexit vote) and suddenly I have to buy an adapter because uh, I don't know, why the gently caress actually? It seems like they just keep using those plugs for old times nostalgia or something. EDIT: ^^^ ah, that explains it
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Apr 27, 2017 00:26
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Shavers are the one place where we use the "proper" low power plugs.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:27
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forkboy84 posted:Has this generated the same wave of anger down south as it has in Scotland? Because it's been a big thing here, with everyone slamming the Tories cruelty, and it even leading to a rare moment of Kez Dugdale getting good press. From my brief straw poll, it seems to just evoke shrugs. The underlying premise - that people on benefits shouldn't be better off financially than people in work - is quite appealing, and for the many people who've had to make difficult financial decisions before deciding to have children, the cap seems to be relatively popular. It's an easy conclusion to jump to if no time is spent thinking of all the edge cases, the injustice of punishing the child, or the fact that children might be a net benefit to society of themselves. The exception for rape is seen as a reasonable exception to the rule, and if that involves having to fill in a form then it's just seen as a necessary price to pay by a public that is inured to form-filling. I've seen lots of noise from opposition politicians about it, but from what I can gather the child benefit cap is a votewinner - I think May knows this which is why she's sticking to her guns. Edit: Boris has been let out of the playpen, but sadly chooses to write a deeply personal attack article on Corbyn in the Sun. Among other things, he calls him a "mutton-headed old mugwump", says he's an enourmous threat to the country's safety and parrots the oft-repeated lies that Corbyn opposes using force during a terrorist attack and that he wants to abolish the British army. Prince John fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Prince John posted:From my brief straw poll, it seems to just evoke shrugs. The underlying premise - that people on benefits shouldn't be better off financially than people in work - is quite appealing, and for the many people who've had to make difficult financial decisions before deciding to have children, the cap seems to be relatively popular. It's an easy conclusion to jump to if no time is spent thinking of all the edge cases, the injustice of punishing the child, or the fact that children might be a net benefit to society of themselves. The exception for rape is seen as a reasonable exception to the rule, and if that involves having to fill in a form then it's just seen as a necessary price to pay by a public that is inured to form-filling. This country is garbage. Thatcher won, hope and decency lost.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:37
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Can we expect anything more (or less) from Boris? He's an 1800's public school boy throwback. I imagine his aides have to make him a zeitgeist tape every week to remind him that we've stopped using the gold standard, the Empire fell, and the only waves that Royal Britannia sales are financial ones [t-minus two years of negotiations for that to reverse as well]
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Apr 27, 2017 00:42
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OwlFancier posted:We also use an odd wiring architecture compared to the Americas, and just to be fun, someone deliberately invented the walsall gage 13A to be very slightly different from BS1363 so that you can't use the two together. Which is to say it isn't used anywhere in the UK outside of trains and some machine/computer halls, but it does have a legitimate purpose in preventing people plugging into the wrong voltage.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:54
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Oh yes and it's a fairly sensible reason but I feel like it's a bit weird given that they went to that after having previously dumped differentiated plugs. Also presumably because they couldn't be arsed with the complicated alternative.
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Apr 27, 2017 00:54
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individually fused appliances do have some advantages, but granted, that wasn't the intention behind the adoption of the ring design
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Apr 27, 2017 01:03
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OwlFancier posted:Oh yes and it's a fairly sensible reason but I feel like it's a bit weird given that they went to that after having previously dumped differentiated plugs. The South African option of running legacy BS 546 for big things up to 15A and SANS 164-2 (IEC standard and Europlug compatible) for small things like phones and monitors seems like the most sensible option if the UK wanted to carry on with current differentiated plugs and was happy to take outside input without screaming Express articles about how the new plugs cause dementia. e: Imagine this but with "1950s - British Empire still great" and "2010s - Euro sockets mock our brave boys. Like and Share if you agree" written over it forever. 
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Looks like tomorrow will be Labour's day to talk about housing. You have to hand it to them, pretty much every day since the election was called they have picked a topic, either launched new policies or re-iterated their current ones, and managed to dominate the news agenda. Meanwhile the Tories have released a bunch of dead air, slogans and one article by Johnson talking a bunch of nonsense. EDIT: The more I read about Johnson's intervention the less effective it seems. A lot of the articles quoting him stress what a personal attack it was on Corbyn, and roughly all of them lead with the fact he used the word 'mugwhump'. BBC News posted:He accused Mr Corbyn of being reluctant to use lethal force jabby fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 01:28
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"Corbyn wants to ban Shoot to Kill" always seems to be initially presented as how he doesn't want police to be able to kill anyone, regardless of what they're doing, even though that's a right presented to any member of the public (which includes police) under common law if they are presenting a clear and present threat. I guess "Corbyn doesn't want to shoot Latin electricians for acting shifty because a list exists" isn't as punchy a headline.
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Apr 27, 2017 01:40
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ronya posted:individually fused appliances do have some advantages, but granted, that wasn't the intention behind the adoption of the ring design Yeah the fuses only protect the wiring between the appliance and the outlet because if your appliance trips the fuse it is most likely dead short .
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Weird topic crossover starting up here Also for those people who were saying PMQs is good and not worthless playground garbage where the evening news just reports each side's sickest burn, now the Guardian's imagining it as a competitive Counter Strike match quote:At PMQs you can deploy the sniper’s rifle or the shotgun, and today we saw Angus Robertson try one and Jeremy Corbyn the other. They were both effective in their way, although Theresa May’s shield of slogans and talking points managed to protect her quite adequately. It did not feel as if anyone secured a great triumph.
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baka kaba posted:Weird topic crossover starting up here The Guardian, catering to your short attention span with buzzwords and flashy imagery. I rarely flick onto the BBC News website, watch a PMQ, and walk away feeling any better or encouraged for it. Both sides of the house boo, hiss, jeer and smirk at eachother like a sixth form debating society.
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Pochoclo posted:I must admit though, when I learned that shavers and electric toothbrushes have a different power plug (similar in appearance to the old style bipolar plug we had in the 80s/90s in Argentina but not the same spacing/thickness) I was baffled. Here's a country that was doing everything right so far (this was before the Brexit vote) and suddenly I have to buy an adapter because uh, I don't know, why the gently caress actually? It seems like they just keep using those plugs for old times nostalgia or something.
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In One Ear posted:Both sides of the house boo, hiss, jeer and smirk at eachother like a sixth form debating society. Yeah it's bad. The sad thing is people do often make important points there, but not everyone has time/cares enough to watch it in full. And the reporting treats it like the world's worst sport instead of focusing on the issues and how they were responded to, which just encourages the lovely grandstanding and prepared bantz Also this just popped up, I hadn't realised it was this crazy quote:Theresa May’s leadership score has soared higher than either Margaret Thatcher or Tony Blair enjoyed in their best years, an exclusive poll reveals today. I know people want to blame Corbyn because the public apparently rely entirely on the Opposition to tell them the government is bad and doing bad things, but isn't this still incredibly hosed up? She's the PM equivalent of an empty suit who's done nothing notable except head Brexit, and she's the most popular Prime Minister since polls began quote:However, the research also found that the personality of the leader is seen as more important by the public at this election compared with in 2015. The whole thing sounds pretty volatile, and it makes me wonder if Corbyn can improve his image while May's suffers - maybe you'd get a much bigger swing than you'd expect? Also  Look at that possible vote change, especially for the Lib Dems  there's a lot of votes up for grabs, an alliance/understanding might make a big difference too
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Lovechop posted:don't know if even that's the word for it to be honest. he's been chatting about how everyone should vote for marine lepen and all that poo poo. I always find it amusing hes becoming what he hates slowly but surely I find it even more amusing he keeps pandering to the ever perfidious 4chan when it never works out well just ask Sam Hyde (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 27, 2017 03:00
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/23/jeremy-corbyn-might-not-authorise-strike-against-isil-leader/ The absoulte demic
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Guavanaut posted:The previous differentiated plugs were all current based, so it does make some degree of sense just to go for the highest sane current option as a standard. You can't do the same with voltage without things either not working or exploding. A slug splooged its way into a plug socket through a loose hole once and electrocuted itself while I watched as a child not really getting slugs+plugs dont mix A blue flash of light came from the plug and a most queer odour and wispy smoke emerged from the plug I opened the plug socket to find the slug fried like a green prune
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMdfgZYVHMc Nobody here cares about Carl of Sad. Or you, cause you're a terrible poster.
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jabby posted:Looks like tomorrow will be Labour's day to talk about housing. Bug powder dust a mugwump jism And the wild boys runnin' into some trippin' Led into control about the Big Brothah Try like hard to not blow my cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62_rRSCHO_Q
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Zephro posted:I wonder how many people voted Brexit because of those drat Eurocrats trying to water down our mighty, world-leading 240-volt ring mains Britain is so behind most of western europe and scandinavia, only country were 3-phase isn't commonly available in residential areas.
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EmptyVessel posted:This poo poo is loving medieval in it's hatefulness and misogyny. That's distinctly unfair to the middle ages. In that period, charity was dispensed on the basis of personal need, not restricted by arbitrary cut offs.
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