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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
| Total: | 206 votes | ||
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On the left there the Independence and Don't Know bars are proportional and the Devolution bar is shortened. Given that it was an advert for the No campaign I fail to see your issue.
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Jedit posted:On the left there the Independence and Don't Know bars are proportional and the Devolution bar is shortened. Given that it was an advert for the No campaign I fail to see your issue. I was more posting it for the hilarious rangers season tickets graph where 94 is somehow more than twice as much as +200.
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Apr 27, 2017 15:38
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Angepain posted:I got a nice leaflet from the Tell Nicola Sturgeon Scotland Doesn't Want A Second Referendum Party Featuring Ruth Davidson, which for some reason mentions neither the council or general election so who knows how long this has been in the works, but I wanted to draw your attention to the included dodgy bar chart which I've seen doing the rounds online already: They really feel stongly about this huh
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Apr 27, 2017 15:43
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Look, if you use a logarithmic scale and you don't start at 0, you can get away with a lot of stuff.
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Apr 27, 2017 15:56
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Angepain posted:I got a nice leaflet from the Tell Nicola Sturgeon Scotland Doesn't Want A Second Referendum Party Featuring Ruth Davidson, which for some reason mentions neither the council or general election so who knows how long this has been in the works, but I wanted to draw your attention to the included dodgy bar chart which I've seen doing the rounds online already: I got one of those. The disingenuous pretense that this snap GE is about Scottish Independence and only that is amazingly brass-necked even for Tories. Scotland also Doesn't Want to be leaving the EU but that's not a real thing that's happening so we'll just bang on about the union.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:19
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https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/857606696889405443
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Apr 27, 2017 16:34
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https://stv.tv/news/politics/1386935-first-scottish-leaders-election-debate-announced-by-stv/ Greens snubbed again.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:42
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Coohoolin posted:This wasn't published back in March 9? Probably. By "just been published" I meant "i have just read this paper after seeing it mentioned today in the NHS Scotland health inequalities research email round up so it'll have been published in the last month or so." But that was rather long winded.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:54
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Niric posted:Probably. By "just been published" I meant "i have just read this paper after seeing it mentioned today in the NHS Scotland health inequalities research email round up so it'll have been published in the last month or so." But that was rather long winded. Was just wondering if it's been picked up by any news outlets. Can't seem to find any.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:56
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Coohoolin posted:Was just wondering if it's been picked up by any news outlets. Can't seem to find any. I didn't notice it, but can't say I was looking closely. Possibly a bit too academic and policy wonky to make good copy - the overall trends remain more or less the same, so it's not like it's a "Scotland drinking more than ever before" story. Be nice to be wrong about that though!
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Apr 27, 2017 17:17
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This is a new one, unionists are using anthrax threats now.Niric posted:Probably. By "just been published" I meant "i have just read this paper after seeing it mentioned today in the NHS Scotland health inequalities research email round up so it'll have been published in the last month or so." But that was rather long winded. Do you work for NHSHS? We do their parliamentary monitoring. MSPs constantly getting the organisation's name subtly wrong really annoys one of my colleagues.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:40
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Alertrelic posted:This is a new one, unionists are using anthrax threats now. Nope, just a third sector partner. I'm pretty sure anyone can join the mailing list though, since it seemed quite informal: just email the coordinator and she'll sign you up. I'd definitely recommend it to anyone interested in public health and/or inequalities, since it's a great way to get a snapshot of current research. You'll need an open Athens or institutional log in the see most of the articles since they're generally academic publications, but they do provide summaries. Also don't think the NHSHS are super picky abut giving open Athens access, and if you're really keen most academics will be delighted to send interested parties a copy of their paper if you email them - it's nice to know someone actually reads it!
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Apr 28, 2017 08:25
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Niric posted:You'll need an open Athens or institutional log in the see most of the articles since they're generally academic publications...
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Apr 28, 2017 10:53
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LemonDrizzle posted:Or alternatively, an awareness that sci-hub exists... Or #icanhazpdf
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Apr 28, 2017 11:20
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Alertrelic posted:This is a new one, unionists are using anthrax threats now. Until the perpetrator is caught we don't know what their political stance is. Interesting polling coming out of Scotland: https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/857902546916179968 Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Apr 28, 2017 12:01
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Pissflaps posted:Until the perpetrator is caught we don't know what their political stance is. Yeah it's probably a false flag. A British nationalist would never murder an MP.
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Apr 28, 2017 13:49
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Alertrelic posted:Yeah it's probably a false flag. A British nationalist would never murder an MP. It's the 'SNP Out Tories In' line. Seems far too obvious.
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Apr 28, 2017 13:58
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Flaps' weird conspiracy theories aside, let's all relax with a nice soothing video of two perfectly normal human beings having a perfectly normal casual human conversation. https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/858423066254356480
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Apr 30, 2017 01:40
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Weird conspiracy theory? I think it's more likely that whoever did it acted alone, and it'd hardly be unusual.
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Apr 30, 2017 07:17
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Pissflaps posted:Until the perpetrator is caught we don't know what their political stance is. This is a loving tragedy. This is on par with disillusioned socialists voting for Le Pen in the french elections. People are so weird.
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Apr 30, 2017 12:14
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I've got a funny feeling that people switching from the SNP to the Tories weren't socialists.
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Apr 30, 2017 13:35
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cargohills posted:I've got a funny feeling that people switching from the SNP to the Tories weren't socialists. You could almost call them Tartan Tories
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Apr 30, 2017 13:58
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Well, the council elections are four days away, let's see the comprehensive policy plans that the great bastion of localism that is the Liberal Democrats have in Glasgow for us to vote onliterally all I could find online about Glasgow from the Lib Dems posted:Local Elections on May the 4th You heard it here first. The lib dems will in fact do things that are good and not do things that are bad. I guess the second last point could technically be called an actual concrete promise if you're feeling charitable.
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Apr 30, 2017 14:22
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/858749034583949314
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May 1, 2017 00:38
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Who knew that 10% of the country agreed with Jim Sillars on anything?
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May 1, 2017 00:38
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Respect for scotland ebbing and ebbing and ebbing. We fought a long and bloody war to cast off the English yoke, the scots of today can't even be bothered to fill out a ballot 
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May 1, 2017 01:57
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hakimashou posted:Respect for scotland ebbing and ebbing and ebbing. do you even go here
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May 1, 2017 09:29
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hakimashou posted:We fought a long and bloody war to cast off the English yoke, I have bad news
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May 1, 2017 09:54
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Independence would be Brexit on steroids. It's no wonder that canny Scots are turning away from nationalism.
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May 1, 2017 09:58
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Angepain posted:do you even go here No, he doesn't. Also he (and Flaps, I see because his posts appear in the composition window) is a fuckwit who hasn't noticed that the poll indicates a majority in favour of independence. Nor has he noticed that there's no indication support for the EU has ebbed among Scots. Because the only option for remaining in the UK is to leave the EU, the No/Remain group - which on the basis of the combined referenda is probably at least a third of all voters - is rendered invisible except for the ones who put EU membership ahead of the Union and switched. Those people are probably the reason why Independence has its first ever not-paid-for-by-the-SNP poll lead. E: Hang on, this is Panelbase again. They're the ones who recorded the only other poll where independence support was over 50%. Jedit fucked around with this message at 12:39 on May 1, 2017 |
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May 1, 2017 10:25
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Pissflaps posted:Independence would be Brexit on steroids. It's no wonder that canny Scots are turning away from nationalism. For someone obsessed with posting polls I'm surprised you can't read them. Coz that one has a 1% lead for pro-independence. Which isn't anything to get carried away with but still is the opposite of Scots turning from nationalism.
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May 1, 2017 11:17
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That poll doesn't show how people would in a yes/no national referendum though, so it's not really that telling us anything. It needs a follow up question as to whether the union or the EU is the higher priority.
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May 1, 2017 11:24
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forkboy84 posted:For someone obsessed with posting polls I'm surprised you can't read them. Coz that one has a 1% lead for pro-independence. Which isn't anything to get carried away with but still is the opposite of Scots turning from nationalism. Jedit posted:Also he (and Flaps, I see because his posts appear in the composition window) is a fuckwit who hasn't noticed that the poll indicates a majority in favour of independence. Nor has he noticed that there's no indication su You're both making the basic error of adding up the two options that include independence and describing that as a pro independence majority. Wrong. Plenty of people in the 'independent and outside of EU' column would rather be in the UK and outside of the EU than the opposite. The evidence for this is the weight of polling data that still shows Yes no further forward in popularity than 2014. Fuckwits indeed.
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May 1, 2017 11:41
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so the poll doesn't actually say anything about whether "Scots are turning away from nationalism", then
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May 1, 2017 11:53
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Then it's fortunate I didn't claim it does.
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May 1, 2017 11:56
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ah, I had assumed you were making posts that had anything to do with the current discussion, a common mistake
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May 1, 2017 11:58
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Your mistake was assuming that every observation on Scottish nationalism would be solely founded on a single poll despite it not being mentioned.
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May 1, 2017 12:10
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On the subject of that poll, the usual independence question was also asked: https://twitter.com/OpinionBee/status/858786631993753600 Funny that. Don't misuse polling data.
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May 1, 2017 12:16
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you know what's really bad? using a giant pie chart (or donut chart i guess in this case) to present two numbers two loving numbers they've even managed to create the pie chart in a way that makes the numbers harder to read than they would be if just presented in plain text LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 12:27 on May 1, 2017 |
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May 1, 2017 12:25
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Given how psephologically challenged some in this thread appear to be I don't think you can make the presentation of data too simple.
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