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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Maybe Clea Duvall's character comes back to testify, as she's medically seen Chuck. Plus, she pulled that 'dirty trick' of having his hospital bed actually turned on when it Chuck thought it was off. She's been in an episode every season so far, so there's a good chance they'll bring her back. She's an excellent actress who's finally making a comeback, and I'm so glad for her.
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Ein cooler Typ posted:I love the contrast of how Jimmy utterly fucks up at being sneaky and putting sugar into his coffee at the restaurant Mikes an amateur at sneaky sugar placement compared to some people
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maskenfreiheit posted:GOOOOOOOO LANDCRABS
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Digiwizzard posted:Jimmy will call in a neuroscientist who will explain that our brains function by electrical signals, and then point out that Chuck The gently caress cannot be afraid of electricity when he is electricity. Everyone will applaud and Chuck will immediately be disbarred and have his teeth removed and be sent to the home for criminally insane bad brothers. And that neuroscientist was Albert Einstein.
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hiddenmovement posted:Mikes an amateur at sneaky sugar placement compared to some people Honestly they both got made by Gus
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Supercar Gautier posted:I think Chuck also grossly underestimates Jimmy's abilities as a lawyer. He acknowledges Jimmy's knack for dirty tricks, but you know he's not even entertaining the possibility that Jimmy could put together a competent defense for himself. I liked when Chuck threw out the University of American Samoa bit as attempted slander against Jimmy. If anything, that makes Jimmy's accomplishments more impressive: managing to pass the bar with an education received from some two-bit operation shows just how seriously he must've taken his attempt to turn his life around.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:58
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Vermain posted:I liked when Chuck threw out the University of American Samoa bit as attempted slander against Jimmy. If anything, that makes Jimmy's accomplishments more impressive: managing to pass the bar with an education received from some two-bit operation shows just how seriously he must've taken his attempt to turn his life around. Yeah. The whole point of the bar exam is that everyone takes the same one in the state they want to practice. The multi-state is the same for everyone. If you pass, you pass. The issue with lovely law schools is usually that their graduates CAN'T pass the bar.
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EatinCake posted:So Kim leaving his life is clearly going to be a breaking point for Jimmy turning full on Saul. Anyone want to start a pool on whether she: Sagebrush posted:Jimmy doesn't need to go to prison to learn the ins and outs of money laundering. Until he decided to get a law degree, he was making a living as a literal con man. I'm sure he understands perfectly well how to sneak around just below the law. It has been bugging me why Jimmy would become Saul. In Breaking Bad we are introduced to him as a criminal lawyer for criminals. It is going to be interesting seeing him go from elder law to car accidents and money laundering. The first season of Better Call Saul makes it seem like the McGil name is very important and I am wondering if changing his name and never bugging Chuck again is going to be part of a deal. Chuck thinks that Jimmy is bringing his good McGil lawyer name down with him but Chuck can't tell that acting crazy about electricity is what is really hurting the McGil name. Everyone was super impressed that Jimmy could uncover the Sandpiper thing and was helping old people to boot. Everyone but Chuck. So I could see the change in name being related to Chuck. Walter White wanted money to leave to his kids. Jesse Pinkman wanted money because that was where he was at in life. Why does Saul Goodman do what Saul Goodman does? Mike has a grand daughter to care about. Gus is out for blood. Why doesn't Saul just move to say California, take another Bar Exam, and start elder law over? Why Jimmy sticks around the ABQ and what is going to happen to Chuck, Kim, and Hector are so fascinating.
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No Luck Needed posted:Why does Saul Goodman do what Saul Goodman does? Because he enjoys the hell out of it and it's the only thing he's good at. He tried playing it straight and narrow to appease his brother but just couldn't help but flick that switch. Whatever happens in BCS completely destroys his relationship with Chuck and Kim and he has no reason to keep pretending to be someone he's not. Jimmy is and always has been Saul, he doesn't need to "become" him.
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Is it ever stated whether he legally changed his name? From what I remember of BB Saul was more of a stage/working name.
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Steve2911 posted:Is it ever stated whether he legally changed his name? From what I remember of BB Saul was more of a stage/working name. I'm pretty sure he introduces himself to Walt(?) as James McGill straight up.
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canoshiz posted:I'm pretty sure he introduces himself to Walt(?) as James McGill straight up. Faith and begorrah! A fellow potato eater! My real name's McGill. The Jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe-hitting member of the tribe, so to speak...
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I don't remember the interaction exactly but he doesn't introduce himself as Jimmy McGill, I don't think. He's making some small talk about Jewish lawyers and comments that "Saul Goodman's just for show, my real name's McGill" e: well, there it is
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No Luck Needed posted:Chuck thinks that Jimmy is bringing his good McGil lawyer name down with him but Chuck can't tell that acting crazy about electricity is what is really hurting the McGil name. Everyone was super impressed that Jimmy could uncover the Sandpiper thing and was helping old people to boot. Everyone but Chuck. So I could see the change in name being related to Chuck. Not that I agree with this 100%, but you do bring up an interesting point: Most all of us have assumed that Jimmy changes his--or uses a different--name (or is forced to) for the benefit of Chuck and/or Chuck's law firm because Jimmy has tainted the name, but what if we have it all wrong and Jimmy changes his--or uses a different--name for his own benefit to distance himself from Chuck and/or Chuck's law firm who have tainted the name somehow instead?
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Right so it's very unlikely that going by Saul is a condition of any sort of deal. If Chuck wants him to change his name he'll make sure he actually changes it, not just the sign on the door.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Because he enjoys the hell out of it and it's the only thing he's good at. He tried playing it straight and narrow to appease his brother but just couldn't help but flick that switch. Whatever happens in BCS completely destroys his relationship with Chuck and Kim and he has no reason to keep pretending to be someone he's not. Jimmy is and always has been Saul, he doesn't need to "become" him. I mostly agree, although I think what BCS shows pretty clearly is that Jimmy McGill is a pretty darn good lawyer who, despite being on the sleazy side, could make it in a big time law firm. He might well have settled down and become an "honest" lawyer if the door hadn't been slammed repeatedly in his face. His falls back into Slippin' Jimmy in season 1 are almost all from desperation: he tries to con Tuco's abuela and accepts the Kettleman's bribe because he's on the knife's edge of poverty and exists in a perpetual state of humiliation because of it (pretending to be his own receptionist and pulling out every excuse in the book for people to not see his utility closet office). When dishonesty and scheming gets him further ahead than the honest work he's doing - especially when he finds out that his own brother has been sabotaging him every step of the way - it's no surprise that he falls back into his huckstering ways.
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Vermain posted:he tries to con Tuco's abuela No. The skateboarders thought her car was the Kettlemobile when they hit it. He was trying to get the Kettlemans' business by being there when that happened
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Last Chance posted:No. The skateboarders thought her car was the Kettlemobile when they hit it. He was trying to get the Kettlemans' business by being there when that happened Ah, okay; thanks for the correction.
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Vermain posted:Ah, okay; thanks for the correction. Sorry, couldn't let it slide. Jimmy loves old people and wouldn't simply grift them out of cash. He wants justice, dammit!
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Vermain posted:I mostly agree, although I think what BCS shows pretty clearly is that Jimmy McGill is a pretty darn good lawyer who, despite being on the sleazy side, could make it in a big time law firm. He might well have settled down and become an "honest" lawyer if the door hadn't been slammed repeatedly in his face. His falls back into Slippin' Jimmy in season 1 are almost all from desperation: he tries to con Tuco's abuela and accepts the Kettleman's bribe because he's on the knife's edge of poverty and exists in a perpetual state of humiliation because of it (pretending to be his own receptionist and pulling out every excuse in the book for people to not see his utility closet office). When dishonesty and scheming gets him further ahead than the honest work he's doing - especially when he finds out that his own brother has been sabotaging him every step of the way - it's no surprise that he falls back into his huckstering ways. Yeah you're definitely right that he has the skills to have a steady career at a law firm, but that's not really the point. I think his downfall is a combination of his nature and his brother's assholishness. While Chuck does constantly sabotage him, I think the lightswitch scene at Davis and Main was meant to demonstrate something important about his character: despite his best efforts, sometimes he just can't help himself. I just don't see a world in which, even absent Chuck's meddling, he would be happy and satisfied working corporate law or whatever; there's always a switch to flip. He gets in his own way almost as much as Chuck does. That's what's so compelling about their feud...Chuck is kinda right about him sometimes. Also, Kim kinda likes Slippin Jimmy, it's a core part of his personality and essentially makes him who he is. Without Slippin Jimmy/Saul, he's just another boring lawyer.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Without Slippin Jimmy/Saul, he's just another boring lawyer. Like Hamlin, and like that prosecutor guy that just popped again this episode. Excellent point.
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i appreciate that mr. petty with a prior was too pleased to be getting free food to know or care that he was being bribed
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I really really want him to actually say this at some point. I'd settle for a reference to crabs in a bucket Colonel Whitey posted:Yeah you're definitely right that he has the skills to have a steady career at a law firm, but that's not really the point. I think his downfall is a combination of his nature and his brother's assholishness. While Chuck does constantly sabotage him, I think the lightswitch scene at Davis and Main was meant to demonstrate something important about his character: despite his best efforts, sometimes he just can't help himself. I just don't see a world in which, even absent Chuck's meddling, he would be happy and satisfied working corporate law or whatever; there's always a switch to flip. He gets in his own way almost as much as Chuck does. That's what's so compelling about their feud...Chuck is kinda right about him sometimes. Also, Kim kinda likes Slippin Jimmy, it's a core part of his personality and essentially makes him who he is. Without Slippin Jimmy/Saul, he's just another boring lawyer. he probably could have ended up in some sort of federal or nonprofit gig. they'll tolerate a lot of weirdness
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I can't help but think it's significant that the prosecutor asked about Jimmy helping Chuck to survive, to which Chuck assured her that he now has an employee from the firm handling that. However, at that point he had already fired Ernesto from HHM, which seems more than a little sketchy, unless he wants to involve poor Ernie even further by stating that he fired him for spilling the beans about the tape to Jimmy.
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Apr 27, 2017 23:00
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Venuz Patrol posted:i appreciate that mr. petty with a prior was too pleased to be getting free food to know or care that he was being bribed That was great, he was eating two bags of chips at the same time for lunch and then started eating Jimmy's fries lmao
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Apr 27, 2017 23:13
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Venuz Patrol posted:i appreciate that mr. petty with a prior was too pleased to be getting free food to know or care that he was being bribed he knew he wasn't working saul's case, but wasn't going to turn down free food
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Apr 27, 2017 23:18
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Pocket Billiards posted:The cocaine in the shoe setup was getting up there with Breaking Bad for suspension of disbelief. To me it's just a little too clever and outlandish. Chuck some dirt on a ute and drive around for like half an hour. Most of it will still be there when you stop.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:That was great, he was eating two bags of chips at the same time for lunch and then started eating Jimmy's fries lmao Didn't even seem like he had come close to finishing the chips too before he threw them in the trash.
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Cojawfee posted:I think the bottom line is that if we don't get a trial next week, I'm gonna flip poo poo. It usually takes months to get any kind of a hearing beyond arraignment/bond, let alone a trial.
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Apr 28, 2017 01:50
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Randandal posted:It usually takes months to get any kind of a hearing beyond arraignment/bond, let alone a trial. On the other hand, this show has shown its proficiency with montages.
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underage at the vape shop posted:Chuck some dirt on a ute and drive around for like half an hour. Most of it will still be there when you stop. It's not so much that, but all the other things that have to go Mike's way. The truck driving directly under the shoe or wherever the cocaine happens to be falling with that day's wind condition, the two guys dismissing the gunshots and then not noticing the exploding shoe and powder raining down, etc. I'm not saying that hitting a shoe at distance with a rifle is impossible or cocaine powder sticking to a truck is impossible.
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It is still a fictional TV show, not fuckin Forensic Files.
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Apr 28, 2017 04:06
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This is breaking bad 1.5 Every plan in the series has relied on a Rube Goldberg machine going offf without a hitch except the occasional child getting shot
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Apr 28, 2017 04:12
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Jimmy's new law office is absurdly dark. Every professional office I've ever been in is very bright and well lit.
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Apr 28, 2017 04:29
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Breaking Bad (and now) Better Call Saul always shoot scenes in Mexico with a yellow filter. The doctor was in Mexico, Mike never took the drugs across the border. Mexico scenes are always shot with that yellow tinge, sometimes to indicate a flashback as well. The only exception I can think of are the modern-day scenes at Don Eladio's house. The "Mexican filter" has been standard procedure since at least the movie Traffic, good thing for you to notice.
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The Dennis System posted:Jimmy's new law office is absurdly dark. Every professional office I've ever been in is very bright and well lit. This is actually a soundstage created to LOOK LIKE an office. The real place is now a Real Estate firm.
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Colonel Whitey posted:Chuck is kinda right about him sometimes. He's absolutely right. At the same time you can't sabotage Jimmy when he tries to change and then claim you'll be there for him if he tries to change. What is this change supposed to look like if it's not "Get a degree, get a job and be good at it."
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I feel like Jimmy could probably rein it in ENOUGH to have done alright at HHM or D&M if Chuck hadn't been actively working against him by every means available. He became a lawyer in the first place because he wanted to be like his big brother. A less evil Chuck could've used that to try and mold Jimmy into a "good" lawyer; let him join HHM at the bottom of the ladder and sink or swim on his own merits like any other random fresh law school grad. Jimmy flaming out at D&M was in the direct shadow of learning of Chuck's betrayal, as well as Chuck still giving him grief and loving with Kim, both of which torched that big piece of his motivation to straighten out. It's POSSIBLE he would've gone full Saul eventually regardless, but Chuck didn't even give him a fair shot to TRY, so all that follows is ultimately down to him.
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Javid posted:I feel like Jimmy could probably rein it in ENOUGH to have done alright at HHM or D&M if Chuck hadn't been actively working against him by every means available. I agree. Its a simple sentiment, why bother doing noble self sacrifice and suffering for good morals if you're just going to get kicked down, spit on, and locked out? You might as well get the rewards of being a slippery conman if you're suffering the penalty regardless.
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