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Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

ignore all my loving optimistic posts earlier. participation at meetings is decreasing and we havent even finished becoming an oc. i'll put out an e-mail listing all the things that need doing and no-one volunteers so i end up doing it myself so it doesnt get done properly because i don't have the time to do it properly. i contact people who express interest and say they'll come so i arrange the meeting around their schedule and then they don't show.

:toot: i've proven that in the midst of a time of unprecedented-in-my-lifetime interest in socialism it's possible to completely fail to accomplish poo poo

this is just every volunteer group on the planet, that's ok. :) have you connected with the national yet? Try to get put in touch with an honest-to-god community or union organizer. Those are the people with the skills you need to succeed.

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



im being heavily hinted at to run as a delegate for my chapter for the national meeting, how do i even begin to approach running for things?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Whoops. Took the NH DSA Twitter account into a slap fight with a local conservative writer.

And I'm too stubborn to not get the last word.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

OhFunny posted:

Whoops. Took the NH DSA Twitter account into a slap fight with a local conservative writer.

And I'm too stubborn to not get the last word.

you're no anchorage dsa

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

you're no anchorage dsa

Alas if only :(

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



my chapter's twitter only posts sincere things like meeting reminders and retweets of members posting from meetings and actions and local news and i envy the anchorage dsa's artistic posting genius

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

only a few hours left to vote

https://twitter.com/AnchorageDSA/status/856945247107940352

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Bok Bok posted:

Exactly. I was speaking directly to why I'm not part of the Bernie worship. This isn't the sole reason but Imani Gandy elaborates on why it's so offensive for him to be cozying up to this Mello idiot better than I ever could. This is an extremely good article on the subject that includes links to Mello's actual record. I don't know how his anti-choice voting history became optional ultrasounds like at Planned Parenthood but your sources are incorrect.

https://rewire.news/ablc/2017/04/21/bernie-sanders-no-revolution-reproductive-rights/

"Pro-choice values should be a prerequisite for progressivism. Reproductive autonomy isn’t just a social issue or an issue about which reasonable minds can disagree. Reproductive autonomy is a human right—and last I checked, stripping a basic human right from 50 percent of the population of this country is not progressive.

Here’s the thing that really chaps my hide, though: I’d be willing to bet everything that I own that Sanders would exclude from his reformed Democratic Party any candidate who disagreed about challenging Wall Street or regulating banks. He would likely excoriate any Democratic candidate that he felt was “in bed with Wall Street,” a charge he repeatedly lobbed at Clinton during the primaries.

But co-sponsor a bill forcing women to have a foreign object inserted into their vagina against their will in order to make sure that the poor dears have made the right choice when it comes to their own body?

Meh. No big deal. We’ll still let you join the progressive revolution."

Look, obviously we can't all agree on every policy detail or we'd be brain-dead Fox watchers. You can disagree on certain issues without dismissing a person entirely but this is one subject that is absolutely non-negotiable.

Hey, considering you never came back and apologized for being sexist as poo poo, here's an article for you - https://www.salon.com/2017/04/25/the-democrats-hypocrisy-fest-disingenuous-attacks-on-bernie-sanders-persist-and-his-popularity-climbs/

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


where are the jobs. where are they? also what is your favorite food

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


From the alt right thread

Ruzihm posted:

i didn't know how much i needed insane clown antifa in my life until now.

Bushiz posted:

If the Michigan DSA doesn't have a small army of recruiters out at the gathering of juggalos I don't understand what they're doing.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
The head of YDS (Youth DSA) and Turning Point USA are debating
https://www.facebook.com/YDSUSA/videos/1580167228680610

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

Regardless of the outcome TPUSA will think they won because they're actually just a neo-fascist group and don't give nearly as much of a poo poo about economics as they claim to.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

SomeMathGuy posted:

Regardless of the outcome TPUSA will think they won because they're actually just a neo-fascist group and don't give nearly as much of a poo poo about economics as they claim to.

i dont think that matters though, the majority of ppl who are gonna watch this are gonna end up hearing demsoc ideology, which they wouldnt, as opposed to TPUSA talking points, which are repeated everywhere in society all the time forever

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

I suppose that's a fair point. I just try to realistic about what those assholes are actually up to.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

pro-capitalist guys will think their guy won and pro-socialist guys will think their guy won. nobody who is on the fence knows this is happening, i'm guessing

lol he brought up the "100 million people have been killed by socialism" stat and i heard multiple people laughing in the audience

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Hopefully some of those turning points fucks get dunked on for being 22 and looking like twelve-year-olds dressing up like Larry King for Halloween.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Fullhouse posted:

pro-capitalist guys will think their guy won and pro-socialist guys will think their guy won. nobody who is on the fence knows this is happening, i'm guessing

lol he brought up the "100 million people have been killed by socialism" stat and i heard multiple people laughing in the audience

I hear it was a billion.

Flora Finching
Sep 10, 2009

Internet Explorer posted:

Hey, considering you never came back and apologized for being sexist as poo poo, here's an article for you - https://www.salon.com/2017/04/25/the-democrats-hypocrisy-fest-disingenuous-attacks-on-bernie-sanders-persist-and-his-popularity-climbs/

I didn't think that ridiculous comment deserved a response but if you insist. I am not a Democrat and expecting equal rights does not make me sexist.

Mello co-sponsored multiple bills, using language invented by the far right that has no basis in biological fact, that served no purpose but to impede women's right to choose.

I was disappointed in Bernie's endorsement. DSA national and Omaha chapter expressed disappointment as well. Bernie is not a member of DSA and can do as he chooses. He does not need my unquestioning support.

If you don't believe unfettered access to health services including abortion should be available to women you are not a leftist. If you think it's appropriate to verbally abuse women for voicing their opinions you are not a socialist. If you think this makes me sexist you should tear up your DSA card.

Again, my right to bodily autonomy is not negotiable.

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Bok Bok posted:

If you don't believe unfettered access to health services including abortion should be available to women you are not a leftist.

...

Again, my right to bodily autonomy is not negotiable.

I don't support Mello, but you're being disingenuous here. There are plenty of leftists, socialists, and dsa members who believe human rights extend to the unborn. In their view: if you don't put a human's right to exist above all other rights you can't call yourself a socialist/leftist/civilized being.


e: honestly though, if you don't think all right are an extension from the core right to exist, then you probably shouldn't call yourself a socialist. You have to admit that if someone believes a fetus is human it is the moral decision to oppose abortion.

And I have to admit that Mello's bills were not about opposing abortion, but trying to shame women into not getting them.

killer crane has issued a correction as of 04:05 on Apr 27, 2017

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
As much as I love leftist infighting this isn't the abortion debate thread it's the DSA thread, if you want to argue about the democratic party there's also a different thread for that.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
On a better note:

https://twitter.com/Jqlyn_Smith/status/857402842738556928

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/micahuetricht/status/857406651070111744

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:




Are these through the bowl a thons?

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Business Gorillas posted:

Are these through the bowl a thons?

More or less

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010

that was at my local and yea it rules.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


OK, so who's this:

https://twitter.com/DSA_Bee/status/857247344169021440


Tweet more whoever you are

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!



goon caucus incoming

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Ruzihm posted:

goon caucus incoming

and what is the nite crew caucuses opinion?

uh huh, un huh, nothing matters you say

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Am I wrong or is that dude crazy if he thinks there's a significant number of pro-life dsa members.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

https://twitter.com/nycDSA/status/857799210477006848

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

an actual dog posted:

Am I wrong or is that dude crazy if he thinks there's a significant number of pro-life dsa members.

I live in a red state. I'm not saying it's a significant number, but as we recruit there have been plenty of people who support eating the rich, but not fetuses.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

an actual dog posted:

Am I wrong or is that dude crazy if he thinks there's a significant number of pro-life dsa members.

Wait, what?

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
There's a decent amount of personally pro life people in the dsa who nonetheless support unfettered abortion access. I've never I've never encountered the legendary "loves Marxism and hates women's bodily autonomy " dsa person twitter loves to dream up.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


yeah, the pro lifers tend to be of the "I don't believe in abortion and would never get, if you want to that's your business." variety, not the firebomb the babykillers variety

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I'm fairly sure that's called pro-choice.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

I suppose there's a reason folks use the term "anti-choice" instead of "pro-life".

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
how are y'all doin' may day in your locals? I'm gonna get drunk making posters for the march tonight :cool:

SomeMathGuy
Oct 4, 2014

The people were ASTONISHED at his doctrine.

We just had a sign making meeting for our local rally last night. Might end up being small, but we've got some solid speakers lined up, so it should at least be interesting.

Now if I could just figure out what to put on the reverse side of my "Google Murray Bookchin" sign.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!




Gonna go surround the white house tomorrow :toot:

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Ruzihm posted:



Gonna go surround the white house tomorrow :toot:

replace step 3 with storming the White House rather than going to the Washington memorial

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