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Tyrande trip report from last night: it took me a few games to really get in a groove but after a while I felt like I was really getting the hang of her. I had a game that went so well that when I started the next match someone on my team actually remembered me and complimented me for destroying them last game  Also I sniped someone across the map  I think next I'm going to work on Vallah because I have her deputy skin and I apparently played her a lot when the game first came out because she's my highest level character.
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I'm glad QM is a pre-pick disaster zone because sometimes I really just want to play the one specific hero over and over again without having to listen to slam-pick genjis complaining about the team comp I also enjoy the weird rear end team comps you get most of the time
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Apr 28, 2017 15:15
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Kashuno posted:That teamcomp looks like it owns to me. I mean we won so I can't chastise it too much, it just twitched something really hard in my brain. Unrelated topic. Does anyone have realistic, reasonable advice on how to be less of a sore loser? I don't rage out or flame people or anything, but I know I let losses get to me way more than I should in a competitive PvP game. Logically I understand they're going to happen, half the time or more. But I don't know how to take that logic to heart so well. 
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Apr 28, 2017 15:22
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Yea both qm and hero league should stay. Don't see much point to unranked draft though since that's just like hero draft without the rewards. So that's what I'd change to something between the two.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:24
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Avalerion posted:Yea both qm and hero league should stay. Don't see much point to unranked draft though since that's just like hero draft without the rewards. So that's what I'd change to something between the two. It's good for practicing new stuff like it's ranked but without the pressure of it being ranked. Not exactly the same thing but when I used to play dota if I was in ranked I felt like I needed to stick to the things I know because if I gently caress up it's not just my ranking that goes down but my whole team's. In unranked that's not there.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:26
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Mind over Matter posted:I mean we won so I can't chastise it too much, it just twitched something really hard in my brain. Cognitive Behavior Therapy. https://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Behavioral-Workbook-Anxiety-Step/dp/1572245727
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Apr 28, 2017 15:27
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imo unranked shouldn't have bans and probably allow mirror picks too. The point should be to get two reasonably functional comps, not tryhard draft strategy stuff. I would also suggest drastically lowering the pick timer. You don't need 60 seconds to discuss hero picks in unranked, you find a role that's needed and pick a hero you want to play.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:33
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I have to say one of the best parts of 2.0 is how they made having a stimpack on almost baseline in roundabout way. Excluding my 30 day veteran stimpack I have 2 weeks to go and get 1-2 stims per day from random chests. It's subtle, but get 75 gold per win vs. 50 is so much nicer.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:34
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IcePhoenix posted:Tyrande trip report from last night: it took me a few games to really get in a groove but after a while I felt like I was really getting the hang of her. I had a game that went so well that when I started the next match someone on my team actually remembered me and complimented me for destroying them last game Part of getting really good at Tyrande is knowing the pathing on every map. That is, assume the person you're chasing is running towards their nearest fountain/otherwise safe area and knowing exactly what path the game is going to take them via so you know exactly where to drop your E, or which bottleneck to send your owl during (and when). Yeah you can just follow up on other people's stuns and roots or whatever, but securing kills and landing the opening stun take a lot of practice. Tyrande hasn't seen significant changes in a while and pretty much comes into play with the meta here and there, but she has long been one of my favorite heroes and during 'stun meta' she is pretty much an instant pick for me.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:43
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Nephzinho posted:Part of getting really good at Tyrande is knowing the pathing on every map. That is, assume the person you're chasing is running towards their nearest fountain/otherwise safe area and knowing exactly what path the game is going to take them via so you know exactly where to drop your E, or which bottleneck to send your owl during (and when). Yeah you can just follow up on other people's stuns and roots or whatever, but securing kills and landing the opening stun take a lot of practice. Tyrande hasn't seen significant changes in a while and pretty much comes into play with the meta here and there, but she has long been one of my favorite heroes and during 'stun meta' she is pretty much an instant pick for me. The stun is definitely the hardest for me to land but when I do hit one that leads to a kill it's super satisfying. Also I can sort of use it to herd people if I miss so that's nice.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:50
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IcePhoenix posted:The stun is definitely the hardest for me to land but when I do hit one that leads to a kill it's super satisfying. Also I can sort of use it to herd people if I miss so that's nice. If you have the option it is sometimes worth over-leading the shot so that the person you're chasing has to choose whether to walk into it or juke it, slowing down enough to have the rest of your team catch them. Can also deter their teammates from trying to cover the escape. The only thing that really bugs me on Tyrande is her wave clear is nonexistant, so if you're playing with pubbies and are the only one left alive, it can be incredibly hard to cover lanes effectively and make up the lost XP or cover a pushing merc.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:56
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Avalerion posted:Yea both qm and hero league should stay. Don't see much point to unranked draft though since that's just like hero draft without the rewards. So that's what I'd change to something between the two. You can play unranked with four people. Unranked should be literally identical to TL except without rank points and with the ability to play it with a party of four.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:56
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IcePhoenix posted:It's good for practicing new stuff like it's ranked but without the pressure of it being ranked. Not exactly the same thing but when I used to play dota if I was in ranked I felt like I needed to stick to the things I know because if I gently caress up it's not just my ranking that goes down but my whole team's. In unranked that's not there. Similarly, it allows you to practice drafting and poo poo before you have enough heroes for ranked, which was an issue for me for ages.
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Apr 28, 2017 15:58
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Nephzinho posted:If you have the option it is sometimes worth over-leading the shot so that the person you're chasing has to choose whether to walk into it or juke it, slowing down enough to have the rest of your team catch them. Can also deter their teammates from trying to cover the escape. The only thing that really bugs me on Tyrande is her wave clear is nonexistant, so if you're playing with pubbies and are the only one left alive, it can be incredibly hard to cover lanes effectively and make up the lost XP or cover a pushing merc. Yeah, the stun sort of helps there since it's AoE but it's not great. Early game I'll stick in lane to soak but once I get to level 10 or so I try to just stick with the team. What ultimate do you recommend for her? I switched between the two but couldn't decide which was better.
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Apr 28, 2017 16:04
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Mind over Matter posted:I mean we won so I can't chastise it too much, it just twitched something really hard in my brain. I get around this in HOTS by not taking it seriously to start with, because League is my tryhard game and HOTS is just my drunken clown fiesta Mash Buttons as Gul'Steve game. That said, I found that in league it helped to both remind myself that if the matchmaker is doing its job, I should lose about half my games including random troll poo poo where someone AFKs or whatever, and then assuming any game I queue for is already a loss. So you go in with no pressure, and if you win, then hey pleasant surprise. It helps you focus less on results and more on your own play, which is really the only thing you can control. Friends have gotten around it by picking one aspect to focus on training each game. Last hitting (not applicable here, sadly), team fights, map awareness & objective control, etc, and then judging their game on how well they do in that area rather than strict victory or defeat. There are gains to be made every game, even if you lose. Look for those, they'll make you feel better.
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Apr 28, 2017 16:10
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Played Auriel QM last night. Team comp: - me - medivh - kharazim - alarak - arthas enemy team - butcher - genji - cho'gall - brightwing map: hanamura medivh melted down because i picked rez, saying that i should never, ever pick it -- then complained because I rezzed alarak instead of him. no surprise that we lost, and then said that I single handedly lost us the match. I love rez.. it's so controversial. 
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Apr 28, 2017 16:48
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I haven't looked at hots for a while, but I saw the free hero thing and was wondering if any of the packs were particularly better other than "get the one with the least amount of characters you already have".
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Apr 28, 2017 17:25
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Kylra posted:I haven't looked at hots for a while, but I saw the free hero thing and was wondering if any of the packs were particularly better other than "get the one with the least amount of characters you already have". The Flex pack has the biggest diversity, that's about it.
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Apr 28, 2017 17:31
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Kylra posted:I haven't looked at hots for a while, but I saw the free hero thing and was wondering if any of the packs were particularly better other than "get the one with the least amount of characters you already have". I believe people did the math on the bundles and the "value" of the bundles is weighted towards the assassin bundle, so that's the best bang for your buck in terms of hero price. That said, if you're looking to get back into the game having a more flexible range of heroes to pick from is probably more valuable than that, so the flex bundle might make sense to shore up areas where you don't have as many picks for heroes.
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Apr 28, 2017 17:33
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IcePhoenix posted:Yeah, the stun sort of helps there since it's AoE but it's not great. Early game I'll stick in lane to soak but once I get to level 10 or so I try to just stick with the team. What ultimate do you recommend for her? I switched between the two but couldn't decide which was better. Depends on map and comp. You usually want Starfall in any situation in which you're playing Tyrande, unless you somehow are solo support in which case you kind of need the extra heal.
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I really like Varian, he has a lot of variance.
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Apr 28, 2017 17:51
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I already have a good number of heroes across each role, so I'll probably just pick whichever I have least of if there's no particular standout pack.
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Apr 28, 2017 18:03
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Kylra posted:I already have a good number of heroes across each role, so I'll probably just pick whichever I have least of if there's no particular standout pack. Yeah, if you already have all your bases covered either pick the one that has the most champions you don't own (best value) or the one that has the most champions you want to play (FUN VALUE).
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Apr 28, 2017 18:10
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Zaodai posted:Yeah, if you already have all your bases covered either pick the one that has the most champions you don't own (best value) or the one that has the most champions you want to play (FUN VALUE). Yeah, I snagged the Assassin one because I'd already been looking at buying either Gul'dan or Valla with gold, so when the pack was like "hey, you can have both of those, plus some other stuff", I was sold. 
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Apr 28, 2017 18:11
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, I snagged the Assassin one because I'd already been looking at buying either Gul'dan or Valla with gold, so when the pack was like "hey, you can have both of those, plus some other stuff", I was sold. Gul'Steve is the most fun I've had in this game, full stop. No other champion is even close. A shame he only has one ultimate, but it's actually a pretty good one. I don't know if the build I run is even "good" but man is it fun. Is the quest that makes Corruption bounce back 3 additional times the best level 1 talent? I always run that, improved Life Tap, healthstone, that one that makes Fel Flame lower corruption cooldown, and the bonus damage for each hit corruption lands, and the Horrify talent that makes it reduce armor.
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Apr 28, 2017 18:35
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Rain of Destruction is plenty good with the right team. Minrad is a pretty accomplished Gul'dan and goes RoD more often than not. You have to find somewhere to park yourself ahead of time and trust in your teammates to engage before you start channeling. Horrify's probably easier to use on the whole.
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The patch today was just bug fixes, FYI: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/683xgx/heroes_of_the_storm_hotfix_notes_april_28_2017/ Bolded the ones people are likely to care about : quote:Bug Fixes
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Apr 28, 2017 18:46
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So that's why talents would never auto pop up on Valla.
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Nice, that talent pop up thing wasn't intentional. I'm the guy who didn't realize he had earned a talent without a giant flashing thing pointing at it. 
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Apr 28, 2017 18:55
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Thank god, had entire games of people not picking talents or claiming they couldn't pick an ult and not listening to me when I told them to pick a 7 talent first.
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Apr 28, 2017 18:54
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Thrall just isn't very good any more huh
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Apr 28, 2017 18:56
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Zaodai posted:Gul'Steve is the most fun I've had in this game, full stop. No other champion is even close. A shame he only has one ultimate, but it's actually a pretty good one. I don't know if the build I run is even "good" but man is it fun. That's usually considered his best build although he's got a surprising amount of wiggle room when it comes to talent choices.
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Apr 28, 2017 19:00
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1stGear posted:Thrall just isn't very good any more huh If Thrall was good at one thing what would/should it be, when my brother played him months ago he would just yell "dive, dive, dive!" and make submarine noises over discord whenever he did anything.
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Apr 28, 2017 19:08
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1stGear posted:Thrall just isn't very good any more huh He's still perfectly good, though? Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Apr 28, 2017 19:11
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Zaodai posted:Gul'Steve is the most fun I've had in this game, full stop. No other champion is even close. A shame he only has one ultimate, but it's actually a pretty good one. I don't know if the build I run is even "good" but man is it fun. I tend to go between Corruption build like you describe and Fel Flame build. Really depends on if my team needs waveclear or not.
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Apr 28, 2017 19:14
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This game needs way more bans, like 4 a side. Two is insufficient to really shape and respond to a draft and the roster is starting to get big. With the megabundles there's not even a concern anymore about locking out newbies from being able to participate (or raising the entry requirements).
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Apr 28, 2017 19:13
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The Gazlowe Announcer is not only real good but its made me miss less talent picks during a fight because whenever you hit a talent level gazlowe yells HEY PICK A TALENT
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:The Gazlowe Announcer is not only real good but its made me miss less talent picks during a fight because whenever you hit a talent level gazlowe yells HEY PICK A TALENT The best part is being a DoT hero and walking away from a fight and then "TWO FOR ONE SALE!". Gazlowe announcer owns, it'll hold me over just fine until I get Brightwing announcer.
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SKULL.GIF posted:This game needs way more bans, like 4 a side. Two is insufficient to really shape and respond to a draft and the roster is starting to get big. Or make all heroes free  so that not owning a hero will never be a concern for Hero League
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Spudd posted:If Thrall was good at one thing what would/should it be, when my brother played him months ago he would just yell "dive, dive, dive!" and make submarine noises over discord whenever he did anything. Thrall was (is?) very good at lane pressure. In high skill play the solo lane was almost always Thrall vs. Zagara a few months back.
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