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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Buffalo should hire Megan.

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Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Jordan7hm posted:

Buffalo should hire Megan.

Apparently Bill Guerin is interviewing with them lol

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Just gonna mention again that there's the analytics conference in Ottawa next weekend. Megan Chayka is running a coding / intro to analytics session on the Friday afternoon, geared specifically to women but also people who are new to that stuff.

I'm probably most interested in hearing pronman. Analytics as a predictive tool is most interesting to me in terms of projecting prospects. I know he changed how he projects based on how possession at a team level generally correlates to wins, but I'm curious if or how he looks at stats in junior leagues.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Ginette Reno posted:

Apparently Bill Guerin is interviewing with them lol

Guerin is such a wonderfully goofy man that I want him to succeed in spite of all the evidence indicating that he should not come within a country mile of any sort of organizational work

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

Pornographic Memory posted:

also why would a team looking for experience want a 27 year old who's had one year on the job and is still in the process of turning around a bad team

the owner made a statement that someone with experience would be ideal, but things can change quickly and they were going to keep their options open. they're not just going to interview crusty old dudes

whatis
Jun 6, 2012
If I had to make a prediction for the Sabres' GM, I'm guessing they end up with one of Mike Futa, Julien BriseBois, or Jason Botterill. Futa was one of their top choices last time around, BriseBois seems like the ideal mix between experience and youth (though apparently there might be some contractual things that block him from leaving the organization at this time), and Pegula has lots of Pittsburgh connections that will likely have plenty of good things to say about Botterill.

My preference is 1) BriseBois, 2) Futa, and 3) Botterill. In terms of likelihood, I'd rank them 1) Futa, 2) Botterill, and 3) BriseBois. All three would be perfectly fine choices though.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

ThinkTank posted:

Randy Cunneyworth was installed on an interim basis about five years ago and he didn't speak French. He was never a full time head coach though.


I'm sure a lot of people say "we just want a cup, I don't care who takes us there" but it's a different story when you have the plan on how to get there filtered through an interpreter every night. Less than 1 in 10 people in Quebec speak English. I'm sure that the "it doesn't matter" sentiment is commonplace in Montreal where it's more even, but I'm sure there are a poo poo load of fans on the Gaspe peninsula who'd beg to differ.

This is from a few pages back but that "less than 1 in 10 Quebecers speak English" is lacking an important qualifier.

The last decade of census data and other analysis suggests that 8-13~% consider English to be their mother tongue, but over 40% declare themselves to be fluently bilingual. The former rate is dropping while the latter is increasing due to a combination of factors (easier to access English media, participation in online communities that commonly use English, allophones continue to make-up a notable percentage of the population, etc.).

The spoken languages of the HC of the Habs is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Hiring a non-French speaker would lead to some of the spiciest takes from some segments of the media and fans until they win a Cup or demonstrate consistent success. At least Julien is a solid coach so the limitations didn't handicap them this time around.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

whatis posted:

If I had to make a prediction for the Sabres' GM, I'm guessing they end up with one of Mike Futa, Julien BriseBois, or Jason Botterill. Futa was one of their top choices last time around, BriseBois seems like the ideal mix between experience and youth (though apparently there might be some contractual things that block him from leaving the organization at this time), and Pegula has lots of Pittsburgh connections that will likely have plenty of good things to say about Botterill.

My preference is 1) BriseBois, 2) Futa, and 3) Botterill. In terms of likelihood, I'd rank them 1) Futa, 2) Botterill, and 3) BriseBois. All three would be perfectly fine choices though.

Is Botterill interviewing? I hadn't heard if he is.

He's an interesting one because he was Shero's cap guru for years and was being groomed to be the next GM and then JR took over and it was still commonly assumed that Botterill was being prepared for that position after a brief JR tenure but now JR is showing no signs of wanting to retire any time soon.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

Ginette Reno posted:

Is Botterill interviewing? I hadn't heard if he is.

He's an interesting one because he was Shero's cap guru for years and was being groomed to be the next GM and then JR took over and it was still commonly assumed that Botterill was being prepared for that position after a brief JR tenure but now JR is showing no signs of wanting to retire any time soon.

there's been very little info about who has been interviewed or who has been contacted for interview thus far. guerin and chayka are the only two people there's been any solid info on, and a couple days ago there was a tweet that the kings had not yet been contacted about lombardi. pretty much everything else is speculation at this point.

Arabian Jesus
Feb 15, 2008

We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith

We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day

Jordan7hm posted:

Just gonna mention again that there's the analytics conference in Ottawa next weekend. Megan Chayka is running a coding / intro to analytics session on the Friday afternoon, geared specifically to women but also people who are new to that stuff.

I'm probably most interested in hearing pronman. Analytics as a predictive tool is most interesting to me in terms of projecting prospects. I know he changed how he projects based on how possession at a team level generally correlates to wins, but I'm curious if or how he looks at stats in junior leagues.

Do you have a link for more info? I'd be interested in going but I don't know if my work schedule will allow it

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Arabian Jesus posted:

Do you have a link for more info? I'd be interested in going but I don't know if my work schedule will allow it

http://www.statsportsconsulting.com/otthac17

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
http://www.tsn.ca/patrick-hischier-in-tight-race-for-no-1-in-tsn-draft-ranking-1.736258

Bob McKenzie put out his final draft ranking. Patrick/Hischier is basically a 50/50 split between the scouts league wide.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
https://twitter.com/avalanche/status/857298805968044032

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
two more days :ohdear:

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Have any of you seen Hischier play? What do you figure his ceiling is?

Also is Heiskanen good enough to be ranked that high or is it just that bad of a draft class?

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004


wait why is this a tweet?

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Hischier and Patrick are good and then after that it's a bunch of guys who are good prospects but won't be immediate impact players like we've seen with a lot of draft classes in the past few years. Liljegren is a guy who was projected to be 2 or 3 and has fallen to like 13 or 14 so he might be a steal for someone.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Sharks Eat Bear posted:

wait why is this a tweet?

He vegas look at this guy! isn't he swell?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

wait why is this a tweet?

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004


is this the real life
is this just fantasy
caught in a landslide
no escape from reality
open your eyes, look up to the skies, and seeeeeeeeeee:

Carl Soderberg played in 80 games this season, tallying 14 points

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

These are my favourite TDDB and I'm pleased to see the hockey crossover :cool:

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Boring local HAS twitter news. Francois Gagnon started randomly getting into a slapfight with Andrew Berkshire tonight for some reason.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

coyotes fired their powerplay specialist newell brown and ahl affiliate GM doug soetaert.

i liked the powerplay when they had guys that could run it but there's been zero adaptation and their zone entries have been pitiful.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

So am I the only one that finds it hilarious this ad started showing up only after the Blackhawks were eliminated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC1ElUAI9dA

Curious about the logo usage too.. they got rights to both the Blackhawks and Blues logo, I guess because Gatorade has a deal with the NHL?

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


xzzy posted:

I guess because Gatorade has a deal with the NHL?

correct. Same reason they have the Paul George one with the Pacers and... I think Pistons

Call Your Grandma
Jan 17, 2010

Sounds like the Leafs might be making another Zaitsev-type signing soon.

23 year old undrafted D Calle Rosen is likely to move from the SHL to NA this offseason, with TO and CHI as most likely destinations.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av
So I noticed that with rookies not needing to be protected in the expansion draft, Toronto has enough slots to protect a total of 18 players. I'm suddenly a lot less worried about the expansion draft :v:

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Call Your Grandma posted:

Sounds like the Leafs might be making another Zaitsev-type signing soon.

23 year old undrafted D Calle Rosen is likely to move from the SHL to NA this offseason, with TO and CHI as most likely destinations.

I mean logically he should pick the team with the better track record of playoff success in the last month, which is Toronto.

Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.
Seems kind of okay which I guess is what you want in a bottom five or six.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Stretch Marx posted:

Seems kind of okay which I guess is what you want in a bottom five or six.

Given the lack of great UFA's at D I can't blame them for trying to go elsewhere to shore up, really. Del Zotto and Daley wouldn't really help the Leafs with their problem at D that much and would assuredly cost more than this guy. Especially Del Zotto, who is young and probably wanting to get paid.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

As long as our new bottom pairing defenceman has a footspeed faster than pylon km/h, I will be open to the addition.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
How would Leafs fans feel about using a trade of picks to shore up at D? The draft isn't terribly inspiring this year from what I've read here and elsewhere, and it's an obvious need.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

El Gallinero Gros posted:

How would Leafs fans feel about using a trade of picks to shore up at D? The draft isn't terribly inspiring this year from what I've read here and elsewhere, and it's an obvious need.

The Leafs shouldn't think the rebuild is done yet. They should still be focusing on drafting and development for the next few years until it's clear they're an actual contender and didn't just get lucky this year. Pivoting to win now is a very risky maneuver. Their best bet is to keep drafting BPA and hoping that players like Rielly, Dermott and Nielsen continue to trend upwards as a solution to their back end deficiencies.

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

xzzy posted:

So am I the only one that finds it hilarious this ad started showing up only after the Blackhawks were eliminated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC1ElUAI9dA

Curious about the logo usage too.. they got rights to both the Blackhawks and Blues logo, I guess because Gatorade has a deal with the NHL?

No, you are not the only one. I get a good laugh every time I see it.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I actually think this is a good year to stock up on picks. If the draft is perceived as weak, and you can scoop up a few extra 3rd or 4th round picks for relatively cheap (ie: depth players) then it might be worth it. Really after the first round, maybe early second, it's just a numbers game. If you have 5 or 6 picks in the third/fourth rounds, statistically speaking at least one of those guys is probably going to pan out.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

ThinkTank posted:

The Leafs shouldn't think the rebuild is done yet. They should still be focusing on drafting and development for the next few years until it's clear they're an actual contender and didn't just get lucky this year. Pivoting to win now is a very risky maneuver. Their best bet is to keep drafting BPA and hoping that players like Rielly, Dermott and Nielsen continue to trend upwards as a solution to their back end deficiencies.

That's a good point. Even if they're stocked on top end talent who are +1/2/3 years from being drafted, they're not a contender yet. They probably aren't fetching that caliber of talent again, but they'll be good for long enough that in 3-6 years they're going to be looking for a bit more affordable depth from younger players on ELCs.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

Ginette Reno posted:

Is Botterill interviewing? I hadn't heard if he is.

He's an interesting one because he was Shero's cap guru for years and was being groomed to be the next GM and then JR took over and it was still commonly assumed that Botterill was being prepared for that position after a brief JR tenure but now JR is showing no signs of wanting to retire any time soon.

Update on this:

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/857976125439586304

edit: and another name confirmed for Buffalo's GM Search

https://twitter.com/DennisTFP/status/857994622965960704

whatis fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Apr 28, 2017

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock


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ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I actually think this is a good year to stock up on picks. If the draft is perceived as weak, and you can scoop up a few extra 3rd or 4th round picks for relatively cheap (ie: depth players) then it might be worth it. Really after the first round, maybe early second, it's just a numbers game. If you have 5 or 6 picks in the third/fourth rounds, statistically speaking at least one of those guys is probably going to pan out.

Yeah I've been pushing that point for a while. A savvy GM would've loaded up on mid round picks at the deadline because the perceived value of this draft is so much lower than other years. The top end talent leaves a lot to be desired, but if you go back to 2012 (the last time the draft was considered this bad) there have been a bunch of decent NHLers come out of it but they were generally selected after the top few picks. Yakupov, Murray, Galchenyuk, G. Reinhart and Rielly is a pretty weak top five but after that that it turned out to be a pretty standard draft. Anything after the top 10 picks shouldn't be valued any differently than any other year.

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