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Hahaha I love how guard/civilian chatter points out that 'nonlethal' combat is still gonna gently caress someone up for life. The dialogue in this game is actually pretty good
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Sit in a pew in Sapienza for a while if you haven't already.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Sit in a pew in Sapienza for a while if you haven't already.
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Apr 28, 2017 00:35
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The sapienza escalations seem a lot tougher than the paris ones so far.
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Apr 28, 2017 02:06
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Azuth0667 posted:The sapienza escalations seem a lot tougher than the paris ones so far. The inability to save combined with a huge map makes every failed attempt eat up so much time.
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Apr 28, 2017 13:58
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LeJackal posted:The inability to save combined with a huge map makes every failed attempt eat up so much time. Same reason why Sapienza pro feels so frustrating. Oh you've killed the two targets but in your haste forgot to save? From the top!
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Apr 28, 2017 14:06
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I never remembered to save when there are unlimited, no big deal to me.
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Apr 28, 2017 14:15
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Zaffy posted:I never remembered to save when there are unlimited, no big deal to me. There are no saves, auto or otherwise, on escalations.
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Apr 28, 2017 14:33
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Did all escalations except Paris! Whew. Almost do-HOLY poo poo THERE ARE SO MANY PARIS ESCALATIONS.
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qbert posted:Did all escalations except Paris! Whew. Almost do-HOLY poo poo THERE ARE SO MANY PARIS ESCALATIONS. Look on the bright side: they're not nearly as experimental and gimmicky as what you get on other maps. So aside from one or two of them, they're pretty
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I encourage killing the one target, destroying the virus, and setting up a particular "stem" for several challenges, such as obtaining the psychiatrist outfit, and only then saving in Sapienza. This is especially effective if you also destroy the virus before saving.qbert posted:Did all escalations except Paris! Whew. Almost do-HOLY poo poo THERE ARE SO MANY PARIS ESCALATIONS. The earlier missions have more escalations because, simply, the devs had more time to design them, and more players to play them. Be aware that Paris has many of the most experimental, and most oddball/difficult, escalations, including some of the most abusive of lasers/mines. The Wetzel Determination is akin to a couple other escalations on other missions as "that really hard one". If you've done all the others, you will know- don't be afraid to leverage the advantages of your full inventory. This makes some of the hardest escalations in Paris much easier than they were when they first came out. The Gemini Paradox and Granville Curiosity also have bad reputations. I have a post here detailing all disarm device locations, though almost none of them are necessary. edit: I am disagreeing with Tippis on how experimental the Paris escalations are, so you should probably go with their opinion. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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Discendo Vox posted:I encourage killing the one target, destroying the virus, and setting up a particular "stem" for several challenges, such as obtaining the psychiatrist outfit, and only then saving in Sapienza. This is especially effective if you also destroy the virus before saving. Eh. I don't know. There's certainly some oddballs in there, but I'd be willing to bet that those are the ones I actually enjoy. Also, it was a while since I did them so my memory might be dulled — I just remember them as being an endless row of straight-forward kills, occasionally with some path restrictions added in (lasers or mines). I just remember Marrakesh being utterly horrible even with the few ones it had, and Colorado and Hokkaido have some outright difficult ones that become tedious in the amount of perfection they demand. The only one that was odd and bad was the one where you had to drown a waiter, which was wholly relying on an unholy combination of unreliable physics and even more unreliable AI quirks, while on a strict time limit. But then we got the emetic syringe and it became utterly simplistic. And then there's the one that later gameplay additions just outright broke… I suppose part of it could also be that Paris is so. familiar that, even when they throw something complicated at you, you can figure out how to do it (unlike, say, the unintuitive stalker).
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The hardest Paris one I remember is the one with the battleaxe where you can't climb things or hop fences.
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I remember the one where you have to kill decker and hide his body but the bodyguard disguise doesn't work being very hard, as was the one with the dahlia's office safe + auction woman + hide bodies restriction. basically any one where you have to hide the bodies within 90 seconds makes for a tough time cause you can't drop a duck and leave, and when things go wrong you can't shoot your way out. Kotti paradigm (3 level axe and no climbing) was the best one
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Going with my "Bonus" idea, I've prepped the following contract. With no rules it's easily done in around 2 minutes, but the extras should make things anywhere from slightly to significantly more complicated. Stream Sniping (The Icon): 1-05-3098403-02 Kill a Security Guard and a Civilian in your Suit. Any Method is fine, but for bonuses... BRONZE: No Explosion Accidents. SILVER: Kill both targets with a Sniper Rifle... GOLD: ...Simultaneously. I of course have already done it both with No Bonus and with the Gold Bonus. It's significantly slower to get the bonuses so don't take my current record as a sign of how fast it is to do with Gold.
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I felt like a superhero(villain?) after doing the escalations for the tutorial mission. That mission was such a perfect Blood Money style introduction, they really should release it as a free demo. I can't imagine doing escalations in the bigger missions.
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Got up to Level 5 of Mallory Misfortune, it's very frustrating! I have what I think is a winning strategy down but I keep loving up in the most stupid ways and things snowball out of control like crazy as a result. Once it's done I only have a couple of Hokkaido challenges/escalations left and I'll have 100% completion.... so please announce season 2 of the game!
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Apr 29, 2017 12:09
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There was a discussion a few pages ago where we said how sad it was that characters couldn't kill other characters/themselves. But I just witnessed (Bangkok spoiler) Jordan Cross shoving Ken Morgan out the window. So it is possible I guess? Are there instances like that in other levels?
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shut up blegum posted:There was a discussion a few pages ago where we said how sad it was that characters couldn't kill other characters/themselves. But I just witnessed (Bangkok spoiler) Jordan Cross shoving Ken Morgan out the window. So it is possible I guess? Are there instances like that in other levels? The waiter in Marrakesh without his knowledge, the chief surgeon in Hokkaido if angered and high.
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shut up blegum posted:There was a discussion a few pages ago where we said how sad it was that characters couldn't kill other characters/themselves. But I just witnessed (Bangkok spoiler) Jordan Cross shoving Ken Morgan out the window. So it is possible I guess? Are there instances like that in other levels? Sapienza: Marco Abiatti will push the priest off the top of the church.
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Pennfalath posted:The waiter in Marrakesh without his knowledge, the chief surgeon in Hokkaido if angered and high. Oh wow, I always take the chief surgeon outfit myself. Didn't know the surgeon could kill the dude too.
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shut up blegum posted:Oh wow, I always take the chief surgeon outfit myself. Didn't know the surgeon could kill the dude too. You need to go into Yamazaki's room, steal her data, then insert that flash drive into one of the computers in the surgery theater where the chief works. Then you need to steal the pilot disguise and give the chief a poo poo ton of pills.
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Final Test: If you turn the power off to the porjector while the General and Knight are entering the room to discuss the slides you just placed there, the General will turn it on while Knight fiddles with the electronics, shocking him to death.
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Finished all the Paris escalations, and overall I enjoyed them. Definitely not as much "drop a rubber duck and run" as I thought there would be. Now that I've 100% every level, I'm just sad there's no more Hitman content to do. Guess I'll give Professional mode a shot.
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Yeah I just started up wrapping up the Paris Escalations myself and boy they sure do love their laser tripwires and landmines in that level, eh? 
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Just did all the Paris challenges on Professional. It wasn't as horrible as I was expecting it to be. Of course, I made a point of disabling all cameras 5 seconds into the start of every mission (just always started in the basement). Not sure how frustrating the later levels are going to be having to deal with this new camera system.
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qbert posted:Just did all the Paris challenges on Professional. It wasn't as horrible as I was expecting it to be. Of course, I made a point of disabling all cameras 5 seconds into the start of every mission (just always started in the basement). Not sure how frustrating the later levels are going to be having to deal with this new camera system. Bangkok and Hokkadio are a bit annoying, but mainly due to how tricky it is to get to the computer to disable them, and because there are quite a few blind corners that either will catch you or makes it difficult to take the camera out from a good angle. On the other maps, the cameras — new and old — are more easily accessible for you to spot, disable, or just outmanoeuvre, and if anything, the “upgraded” AI reactions to disabling them on pro actually works to your advantage at times since you can make someone move out of the way for you from very long distances all of a sudden. On the other hand, the cameras only really matter for the SA/SO run (and Ninja in Hokkaido), since there will always be some disguise they can't see through, and you should probably be using that anyway at all other times. They mainly make you move a bit more slowly until/unless you take out the control computer since you don't want to blunder into one while fleeing from some other flubbed attempt at distracting or knocking people out.
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I found Hokkaido pretty okay for camera smashing since the camera in the morgue can be shot through the glass from the stairwell coming from the employee area.
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Normal Hokkaido was cool but I found it lackluster. On the other hand, I did a few contracts and they were marvellous.
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Boiled Water posted:I found Hokkaido pretty okay for camera smashing since the camera in the morgue can be shot through the glass from the stairwell coming from the employee area. This is what I did as well, though it does mean you need a silenced pistol which takes up your only stash spot.
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Eggnogium posted:This is what I did as well, though it does mean you need a silenced pistol which takes up your only stash spot. You can use whichever pistol as long as you leave in a hurry.
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https://twitter.com/Hitman/status/859344806811762689
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Yay, level 20 mastery in each location! Now I can finally.. start to play the game? 
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That's definitely The Bad Boy, as it's the only ET known to be set on The Icon and the background for that phone shot is one of the curtains that has the film name on it.
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shut up blegum posted:Yay, level 20 mastery in each location! Now I can finally.. start to play the game? Bang your head of Pro mode. Then when you've finished pro mode do like me: Sit and wait for game updates.
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Nakar posted:That's definitely The Bad Boy, as it's the only ET known to be set on The Icon and the background for that phone shot is one of the curtains that has the film name on it. While I do need the Sapienza ET suit, The Icon is definitely one of the more annoying maps IMO, especially if the target ends up in the middle of the film set.
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Boiled Water posted:Bang your head of Pro mode. Then when you've finished pro mode do like me: Sit and wait for game updates. Meh, I tried the pro mode on Paris and I was kinda bummed out by it. It's like a totally different game, and I have to relearn where most of the items are + I've already done most of the challenges so my verdict of Pro mode is: 
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Comments from the official account further in the thread make reference to the particularly infamous Sensation, ET # 4. Sensation was infamous because the intended SA technique (the only really feasible way to get it) required poisoning a drink, which the target drinks from once, a very short time after the mission starts.
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All Sapienza professional challenges done! Guess we're doing this. REALLY not looking forward to Bangkok and Colorado SA/SO runs.
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qbert posted:All Sapienza professional challenges done! Guess we're doing this. There are posts further upthread about both. Since I beat my head against them, my post history may be a good starting place. Beware of Mrfreeze's videos, which are more like speedruns that require everything go perfectly than effective strategies. Short versions: Bangkok:Poison Morgan and make your way up to Cross's floor then save before the intricate dance of taking Cross out begins. Colorado:Use the farmhouse to stage as many kills as possible- all the farmhouse targets can be led into the basement with noises. Save after killing all three and setting up to snipe the haybale from the balcony.
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