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Fuzz posted:On topic: is The Order worth $15?
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Fuzz posted:This thread has turned to such poo poo.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:16
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Snak posted:For real, stop buying games until you read like, the bare minimum about them. I'm not disliking these games because I don't like what they are trying to do, i dislike them because they are bad at what they do. Nier was boring and tedious after a few initial great hours. TLG has dogshit controls and terrible AI in a game that relies on having good controls and AI. I read plenty about both games but most people seemed to brush off the huge flaws in each title, for some bizarre reason.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:18
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veni veni veni posted:I don't think so. I don't think it's worth the time it takes to play it. PM sent.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:20
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spudsbuckley posted:I'm not disliking these games because I don't like what they are trying to do, i dislike them because they are bad at what they do. I am interested in why you ordered Persona 5, I really think you maybe should just cancel it and save yourself some more frustration
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Apr 29, 2017 21:20
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spudsbuckley posted:I'm not disliking these games because I don't like what they are trying to do, i dislike them because they are bad at what they do. I just feel like your complaints about both Nier and TLG are like, the most common complaints about most games. Like, people who dislike them dislike them for those reasons.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:27
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Fuzz posted:This thread has turned to such poo poo. Depends on how much you like walking slowly through nice looking locations and awful dialogue. I platinumed it.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:30
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spudsbuckley posted:I'm not disliking these games because I don't like what they are trying to do, i dislike them because they are bad at what they do. Because they don't see them as huge flaws.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:31
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Oh, new av!
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Apr 29, 2017 21:34
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Snak posted:I just feel like your complaints about both Nier and TLG are like, the most common complaints about most games. Like, people who dislike them dislike them for those reasons. Both those games have a few really obvious gameplay flaws that you pretty much have to actively overlook to even bother with them. The previous 3 games I played before them were Horizon, Dark Souls (finally actually finished it) and Yakuza 0. I can honestly say I enjoyed every moment of those games because none of them had these huge, glaring gameplay flaws that sapped my willingness to continue playing them. Maybe it's just being an older gamer, but I have developed a really low tolerance for "flawed masterpiece" type stuff. I just see a mediocre game with a couple of good moments but nothing that's worth my free time.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:36
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Fuzz posted:On topic: is The Order worth $15? It's a  game max, I think digital has been as low $5 or $8, wait for that.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:35
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TLG doesn't have terrible AI it's actually pretty drat impressive.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:37
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spudsbuckley posted:Both those games have a few really obvious gameplay flaws that you pretty much have to actively overlook to even bother with them. Yeah, so what I'm saying is, you should read the opinions of people who are critical of the games and not the people who are drooling over them. Like, people have been bitching about controls in TLG since it launched. I've never even played it, and I could have told you that you would hate it.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:37
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I am interested in why you ordered Persona 5, I really think you maybe should just cancel it and save yourself some more frustration Spudsbuckley listen to this person. You aren't going to make it through the initial 4-5 hours of cutscenes Persona throws at you. Save yourself some money.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:46
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Detective No. 27 posted:Is mayonaise an anime? Fuzz posted:On topic: is The Order worth $15? Obsurveyor posted:It's a
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Apr 29, 2017 21:49
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that dude is gonna hate persona but i hope he does buy it because it will be funny
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Apr 29, 2017 21:49
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veni veni veni posted:TLG doesn't have terrible AI it's actually pretty drat impressive. This is true. Sadly, that doesn't translate into a good gaming experience.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:54
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Ineffiable posted:All I can imagine is a japanese geek typing furiously on a forum about how superior Western storytelling is in games like braid and beyond two souls. If they were like this thread they'd be posting about great the storytelling is in Call of Duty and Battlefield
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Apr 29, 2017 21:55
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Obsurveyor posted:It's a I was vaguely interested in it too, I'll wait for the inevitable fiver sale then.
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Apr 29, 2017 21:56
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Snak posted:Oh, new av! Yeah, I'm late to the My Hero Academia party but it owns.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:09
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After the sad realisation that the new mirrors edge is a much shittier, bloated version of the old one, I'm going to go back to witcher 3, so please give me some pro tips to make me enjoy it. Last time, the combat just made me feel like the bulk of the game play was a chore, even on easy, and I felt like virtually every mission or story decision I made resulted in failure or everyone dying. So tips to cheese combat would be nice. In terms of missions, the kind of thing I'm thinking or was a side quest where people are knocking down religious totems. When you confront them, you can either fight them or concede that religion is an oppressive opiate of the masses blah blah blah and let them go. I chose the latter option and get a big MISSION FAILED and that upsets me and makes me think I may miss out on further plot, reward etc so I want to reload go back on my decision. So basically because the game tells me I've failed I feel like I have... failed, even though I have completed the quest on my own terms. Is the game going to punish me for this, or not?
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Apr 29, 2017 22:11
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I have gotten tired of the Witcher 3 combat too and am going to play the expansions on Easy just so I can move through the story (I think this will be the first time I have done this). Do what you want to do, and make your own story
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Apr 29, 2017 22:13
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Use alternate controls and abuse Quen. The only thing that will kill you is your own boredom as you wait for it to refresh.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:14
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alternatively, put all your points into igni and set literally everyone on fire
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Apr 29, 2017 22:16
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I just put a bunch of points into Aard with the damage boost and kept knocking everyone down
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Apr 29, 2017 22:17
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Awesome! posted:that dude is gonna hate persona but i hope he does buy it because it will be funny I want him to buy it because I want Atlus to get money for one of the best games ever, but also Jesus Christ at his posts
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Apr 29, 2017 22:20
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Potions are pretty mandatory. Detoctions are hilariously powerful too. The game wants you to use all the tools you have available, so give them a shot. You can't really mash through an encounter on anything other than easy. But it's nuts how divided people are on the combat. I think it's probably the best combat in this kind of open world game, only dethroned by Horizon.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:21
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FishBulb posted:If they were like this thread they'd be posting about great the storytelling is in Call of Duty and Battlefield edit: incidentally here's the current thread there about Atlus relaxing the streaming rules for P5 but not in Japan, there are all the usual opinions there about what Japanese and Westerners want from games. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Apr 29, 2017 22:23
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I have gotten tired of the Witcher 3 combat too and am going to play the expansions on Easy just so I can move through the story (I think this will be the first time I have done this). Please read the "Before I Play" of Witcher 3 http://www.beforeiplay.com/index.php?title=The_Witcher_3:_Wild_Hunt tldr; use side step to dodge attacks and roll to get distance from enemies. Don't let yourself get surrounded. If you can control the fight, you will have fun with the combat in The Witcher 3.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:23
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illBilliam posted:Please read the "Before I Play" of Witcher 3 http://www.beforeiplay.com/index.php?title=The_Witcher_3:_Wild_Hunt I already beat the main story. I did all that too. I am tired of the combat encounters
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Apr 29, 2017 22:25
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I already beat the main story. I did all that too. I am tired of the combat encounters Oh I see. Never mind then.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:28
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Jimbot posted:Potions are pretty mandatory. Detoctions are hilariously powerful too. The jimster speaks the Gospel
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Apr 29, 2017 22:29
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Jimbot posted:Potions are pretty mandatory. Detoctions are hilariously powerful too. maybe if you're playing on the higher difficulties but I rarely bothered with that stuff on normal and never felt like I needed it to get anywhere
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Apr 29, 2017 22:30
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I platinumed the game and 100%ed all the DLC stuff on Death March and I think I used potions maybe less than a dozen times. Light attacks and Quen break the game.
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Apr 29, 2017 22:30
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codenameFANGIO posted:I had been lead to believe it was better than the Nintendo threads but it is somehow worse?!?!? they lied this is always the worst
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Apr 29, 2017 22:44
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spudsbuckley posted:Yeah, not so sure about The Last Guardian. Do you just buy video games randomly without know jack poo poo about them? Because you're making yourself out to seem very stupid and ignorant about your own tastes in games. Awesome! posted:that dude is gonna hate persona but i hope he does buy it because it will be funny Totally this. I can't wait to come back to the thread and see this: spudsbuckley posted:WTF is this stupid anime bullshit. i have to play as high schools? this is stupid Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Apr 29, 2017 22:48
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Real hurthling! posted:they lied this is always the worst
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Apr 29, 2017 22:50
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This thread is perfectly fine compared to any of the Vita threads
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Apr 29, 2017 22:48
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I already beat the main story. I did all that too. I am tired of the combat encounters Overall I found W3's combat to be satisfactory, yet I still found myself at this point when I played B&W. The new enemies just felt annoying rather than a new, interesting challenge.
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I hate people's complaints about the last guardian's controls, or at least the idea that it was an oversight on the developers' part. The character is a little kid, it would make the game worse imo if he controlled like nathan drake, it's obviously an intentional choice, the animations of the boy make that pretty clear. I'd much rather have the boy control like that and not make perfect jumps or movement every time, it would detract from the immersion, just like Trico's AI, which can be frustrating (although I never really got frustrated with them, maybe in one or two puzzles when the physics of his tail wouldn't work out how they're meant to), but yeah, if you would have read any review, even the Easy Allies 5/5 review (and their game of the year for 2016) mentions that about the game right after the very basics of the plot. Also, it's not like it's a game that requires super precise controls, it's a slow paced game and the puzzles are absolutely not "retarded", compared to a lot of the critically acclaimed games I've played recently, TLG has more unique puzzles than most, and uses them sparingly, like there's two really interesting puzzles, the cart bit and the water physics one are only used ONCE in the game, whereas uncharted 4 would've used that mechanic at least 2 dozen times. There are a lot of simple puzzles, but the whole game is littered with puzzles at pretty much every point in the game, of course the ones at the beginning aren't going to be too difficult. There's so many great and unique mechanics that the last guardian does better than any game I've played in years, the boss fights are incredibly unique, the story is incredible and Trico is a loving astounding achievement in gaming. Not faulting you for disliking the game, but I think your criticisms don't hold up compared to like any other critically acclaimed game out right now. I will admit the camera is wonky in small spaces, and the frame rate does drop in a few areas for a few seconds, but that's about it. But the rest of the game makes up for it. If you actually think about how to get Trico to achieve certain tasks instead of just expecting the beast to do what you want immediately then yeah, it's not going to work out well. But if you choose your commands carefully and read up on the commands you can use, and use the camera to look in places where you want Trico to go then I don't think you should have many problems, or at least in my 5-6 playthroughs I rarely got frustrated with Trico's AI, because I learned how to interact with him in a way that makes him very easy to direct. Also, if Trico just did whatever you wanted him to do immediately then the game would be poo poo, did you expect a realistic animal AI that's supposed to act like a cat/dog/bird to react like a point and click strategy game and immediately do what it's told every time? That would also make the game awful. Basically, the game's controls, and Trico's AI are great I think, regardless of how they feel, it wouldn't be the incredible game that it is without those mechanics. Yes, there are a few technical problems but they're not relevant to the quality of the game at all in my opinion, my biggest gripe is that the control prompts still pop up even after the patch and ruin some beautiful screenshots. Plus the last hour is loving amazing, and Team Ico's best story yet. Basically yeah what the before you play videos like everyone's suggesting.
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