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I got a new job for bookoo figgies but now this other place I was talking too is reaching out again welp guess I better let them down as softly as possible
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FrozenVent posted:I got a new job for bookoo figgies but now this other place I was talking too is reaching out again just fwd them your paystub
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Apr 28, 2017 04:03
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:just fwd them your paystub + 10% I use to do that when recruiters would call up. Currently Salary + 15% and current vacation + 1 week.
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Interview hell final report: 4 weeks, 4 companies, 9ish interviews (can't remember it's all a blur now). Dropped out of one after first interview (total garbage fire). Timed coding test, whiteboarding, aptitude test (with a literal IQ test), all forms of misery. Two offers, took the one with slightly less figgies but much more interesting domain/company/product. What a lovely loving month, I lust for death.
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:+ 10% Always go for more vacation
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Apr 28, 2017 13:56
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Double Bill posted:Interview hell final report: 4 weeks, 4 companies, 9ish interviews (can't remember it's all a blur now). Dropped out of one after first interview (total garbage fire). Timed coding test, whiteboarding, aptitude test (with a literal IQ test), all forms of misery. Two offers, took the one with slightly less figgies but much more interesting domain/company/product. 
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Apr 28, 2017 15:41
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what does a timed coding test prove? you can hack a bank just like in the movies?
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Apr 28, 2017 15:54
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LinYutang posted:what does a timed coding test prove? you can hack a bank just like in the movies? ideally it automates the make you swap a string/fizzbuzz portion of the interview process if you don't use it for trivial things you're just testing how much of the API they've memorized
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Apr 28, 2017 15:58
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Double Bill posted:Interview hell final report: 4 weeks, 4 companies, 9ish interviews (can't remember it's all a blur now). Dropped out of one after first interview (total garbage fire). Timed coding test, whiteboarding, aptitude test (with a literal IQ test), all forms of misery. Two offers, took the one with slightly less figgies but much more interesting domain/company/product. I thought iq testing for employment was illegal, hence all the proxy iq testing? Then again maybe it's not because America
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Apr 28, 2017 16:18
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lancemantis posted:I thought iq testing for employment was illegal, hence all the proxy iq testing? It was done at a external consultancy, and phrased as a "logical deduction test", but it was pretty much 1:1 the same type of test Mensa does. Even some of the symbols were the same.
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Apr 28, 2017 17:31
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lancemantis posted:I thought iq testing for employment was illegal, hence all the proxy iq testing? actual iq testing by professionals is expensive, so employers tend not to bother. (it also doesn't particularly correlate to success, but some employers still fetishize IQ) personality inventories are filled with questions that impact protected classes, so employers who do do personality inventory like things tend to ask a small segment of questions that are tightly focused. they are used in an automated hiring process for associates at burger flipping chains and retail positions.
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Apr 28, 2017 18:57
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sent out some resumes with extra blank pages in the middle always check the generated pdf
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Apr 28, 2017 19:25
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how do interviewers typically feel about a candidate demonstrating that they know what algorithm to use for a problem and how it works, but falling short on the implementation? I just had an interview where in one part they asked me to get the sorted union of two sorted lists, so basically the merge part of merge sort. I got it pretty quickly, but I messed up and forgot to deal with the case that one list is exhausted, so I'm not how well I did.
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Apr 28, 2017 20:19
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ultravoices posted:actual iq testing by professionals is expensive iq isn't even a real thing, im pretty sure this is just elaborate scammery
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Apr 28, 2017 20:21
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DuckConference posted:wow apple really likes masters degrees in their job postings it's only certain groups I think though since I've had 2 interviews there with my scrub tier psych ba NewForumSoftware posted:iq isn't even a real thing, im pretty sure this is just elaborate scammery it's not an actual measure of general intelligence, though
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Apr 28, 2017 20:36
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da beeper king BABY posted:how do interviewers typically feel about a candidate demonstrating that they know what algorithm to use for a problem and how it works, but falling short on the implementation? I just had an interview where in one part they asked me to get the sorted union of two sorted lists, so basically the merge part of merge sort. I got it pretty quickly, but I messed up and forgot to deal with the case that one list is exhausted, so I'm not how well I did. depends on how well everyone else did unfortunately
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Apr 28, 2017 20:45
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da beeper king BABY posted:how do interviewers typically feel about a candidate demonstrating that they know what algorithm to use for a problem and how it works, but falling short on the implementation? I just had an interview where in one part they asked me to get the sorted union of two sorted lists, so basically the merge part of merge sort. I got it pretty quickly, but I messed up and forgot to deal with the case that one list is exhausted, so I'm not how well I did. depends on time restraints and the interviewer, mostly. if they noticed the bug and were a good interviewer and you still had time they could have probed you into seeing it & fixing it as well. if you guys were out of time then it probably doesn't matter.
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Apr 28, 2017 21:07
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I had my first "live coding" interview. I did embarrassing terrible. no where to go but up, right?
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Apr 28, 2017 22:50
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Yep, laugh at it and move on. Who cares.
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Apr 28, 2017 22:55
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Mahatma Goonsay posted:I had my first "live coding" interview. I did embarrassing terrible. no where to go but up, right? nerves always get me on the first couple interviews writing a thing from scratch is surprisingly hard when you've been only fixing stuff or adding to existing systems for 6+ months before an interview, think of a simple problem to do on your own and write it into a blank file or piece of paper, the momentum helps jog my brain into active beep boop thinking mode. car analog 1st gear etc
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Apr 29, 2017 17:55
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MeruFM posted:nerves always get me on the first couple interviews yeah, I do the same thing. something that you know how to solve, just go through the mechanical steps of writing out the details and handling the corner cases
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The Management posted:yeah, I do the same thing. something that you know how to solve, just go through the mechanical steps of writing out the details and handling the corner cases same but i do what someone in a CoC thread suggested and i take my notebook out to a park or someplace and do my hand coding there to get used to doing it in an unfamiliar place
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Apr 29, 2017 18:14
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MeruFM posted:nerves always get me on the first couple interviews yeah it was comically bad. I wrote a bunch of if statements testing equally with = instead ==.
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Apr 29, 2017 20:06
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Mahatma Goonsay posted:yeah it was comically bad. I wrote a bunch of if statements testing equally with = instead ==. Just tell them you were using shell script for that problem
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Apr 29, 2017 22:16
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i wish we could just talk about the stuff we've done like literally every other field instead of taking stupid quizzes
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*flies into thread* hey guys, your old pal stymie here actually, making computer touchers take tests is cool & good because they should be subjected to the same treatment retail workers applying for jobs at megachains have quit now and do actual labor! now excuse me while i jack off to a new hentai series about construction workers propositioning passing by high school children who are of course 18 years of age on my iphone 4s running ios 5 *flies out of thread*
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mishaq posted:*flies into thread* dude, stymie hasn't posted in this thread for a week maybe take a walk or something
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Had a second interview with that company. Went pretty well and I got a call yesterday that they'd have an offer for me on Monday. It's contract hourly. How much money do I ask for as recent grad with some experience near San Jose?
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PapaLazarou posted:Had a second interview with that company. Went pretty well and I got a call yesterday that they'd have an offer for me on Monday. It's contract hourly. How much money do I ask for as recent grad with some experience near San Jose?
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Apr 29, 2017 23:05
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looks like the ca job might offer me contractor part time off-hours remote to make deece figgies and keep the current job. always wanted to work 60+ but the pay might be worth it 
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not sure where to post this but it looks like I'm doing game dev. a reputable dude in industry wants to work with us to help us get our game to market as a producer but I'm not sure what I should know legally before any formalities or paperwork comes into question, no doubt whatever will be hashed out soon enough informally but i can't say I know much. does anyone have good resources for contracts or the like?
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OldAlias posted:not sure where to post this but it looks like I'm doing game dev. a reputable dude in industry wants to work with us to help us get our game to market as a producer but I'm not sure what I should know legally before any formalities or paperwork comes into question, no doubt whatever will be hashed out soon enough informally but i can't say I know much. does anyone have good resources for contracts or the like? there's some game law people in the game jobs thread.
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PapaLazarou posted:Had a second interview with that company. Went pretty well and I got a call yesterday that they'd have an offer for me on Monday. It's contract hourly. How much money do I ask for as recent grad with some experience near San Jose? what's the role and level? what kind of company is it?
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Blinkz0rz posted:i wish we could just talk about the stuff we've done like literally every other field instead of taking stupid quizzes a lot of people can talk well about what they did but can't code for poo poo. they should talk to you and then have you demonstrate that you can write a program
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leper khan posted:there's some game law people in the game jobs thread. got a link? not sure where it is
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The Management posted:a lot of people can talk well about what they did but can't code for poo poo. they should talk to you and then have you demonstrate that you can write a program meh, a lot of other industries require plenty of domain specific poo poo that no one gets super grilled on i guess it's the figgies but still i hate interviewing
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The Management posted:a lot of people can talk well about what they did but can't code for poo poo. they should talk to you and then have you demonstrate that you can write a program reasonable take homes and OSS work should suffice here BUT WHAT IF THEY CHEAT
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Blinkz0rz posted:meh, a lot of other industries require plenty of domain specific poo poo that no one gets super grilled on Interviewing is cool and good when you realize you're trying to filter out most the jobs, either by turning them down or by 'failing' their retarded interviews.
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The Management posted:what's the role and level? what kind of company is it? I'd be responsible for writing calibration/diagnostics software for automated test equipment used in semiconductor manufacture. Not entirely sure what level that is. Job description has the title as Electrical Engineer, not terribly descriptive.
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one thing i really appreciated with this apple interview was that the question had an obvious and correct answer (p much "there's a finite unchanging set of states, a simple switch or set of if-thens would be readable and perform fine") and the interviewer and i agreed basically instantly. then he asked me to just see if i could come up with a more "problem-y" way to do it which made me super comfortable because now it wasn't about proving i could program but about thinking of the most heinous code i could for fun (which is something i love to do if you read my tp thread posts at all). basically all that time i spend at work reimplementing simple problems over and over until i have the most obtuse possible solution came in handy and i felt right in my zone. something about the way he just accepted my basic proficiency at face value and then let me have fun with the problem really put me at ease.
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