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Cool Buff Man posted:That's a really weird article, the stats aren't that close but he insists that they are in italics so it must mean something. He reallllly had to stretch to make the comparison. He could have picked any other random star player on any other team and made the exact same argument. Kobe and Kawhi play different styles, are good at different things, and don't at all look alike when playing.
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attackmole posted:Kawhi is a.... multi talented player? Like he's got lots of different skills, but the second he starts working in the mid range he's immediately reminiscent of Kobe and MJ in very concrete ways. It's uncanny. He have the big hand... so he can make the Jordan moves and shots
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Being an excellent 3-point shooter puts him ahead
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Jack's Flow posted:I had MJ flashbacks a lot of times watching Kawhi this season. His dunks in traffic, his fade-away jumper, his defense. He's freaking good. But Kobe was good, too! His hands make him much more Jordan esque, he has options in the air Kobe never had cause he's holding a tennis ball
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Tae posted:Being an excellent 3-point shooter puts him ahead So does playing defense 
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AggressivelyStupid posted:So does playing defense umm I'll have you know that Kobe made the first team all defense many times.
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chunkles posted:So the d-league season is over, and Onuaku shot 73% from the line. You're on notice DeAndre/Drummond/Dwight etc Andre Roberson needs to get down with this.
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Mr. Mambold posted:It's "Hot Hand Theory", Bobby. Lol
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Declan MacManus posted:Kobe tried on defense until Shaq left at which point he dedicated all of his energies to He tried in the playoffs in the Pau years too
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DeimosRising posted:He tried in the playoffs in the Pau years too He tried but he also wasn't as good as he used to be by then. Kobe after 07 got more credit for D than he deserved. My favorite was when Artest joined the team in 09 and was clearly the best defender on the team yet Kobe was the one getting first team all defense. I even remember pointing out him getting awards like that would skew people's memory of him but was told nobody values those things years later.
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I still remember Kobe getting 1st team all-NBA defense as recent as 2010-11 when Tony Allen got 2nd team And Kobe still got 2nd team the next year
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Spacebump posted:He tried but he also wasn't as good as he used to be by then. Kobe after 07 got more credit for D than he deserved. My favorite was when Artest joined the team in 09 and was clearly the best defender on the team yet Kobe was the one getting first team all defense. I even remember pointing out him getting awards like that would skew people's memory of him but was told nobody values those things years later. I think almost everyone here agreed it was bullshit, and yeah it will come up as a point of arguement in the future when memories of him as a player have faded.
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Lockback posted:Earlier career Kobe was legit great at defense though, especially in the playoffs. I fell like his later recognition that he didn't deserve skews peoples perception sometimes. I figure as players get older it gets harder to get in the low wide stance you need to properly defend players. I can't find it now but Kobe would almost double over and shuffle his feet to stay in front of his man and kept his arms wide for deflections and steals, whereas Old Man Kobe would lazily jog around screens and put a hand halfway up to close out. True two way players (like LeBron and Kawhi) are really something special, because locking down on defense is a whole-body effort the entire time you're on the court. Tae posted:I still remember Kobe getting 1st team all-NBA defense as recent as 2010-11 when Tony Allen got 2nd team The All-Defense teams are a joke anyways, remember when Tyson Chandler won DPOY and only made 2nd team and then the same thing happened the next year with Marc Gasol
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attackmole posted:Small sample size Raptors stat: Norm Powell was 10/11 on threes for the first round As Drunk Canuck says, there is nothing Norm-al about him
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morestuff posted:My dream scenario is Ball becoming so good that Lavar is declared GM in exchange for Lonzo re-signing He'd have to be the 2nd coming of Magic Johnson for that to even be semi-plausible.
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attackmole posted:Small sample size Raptors stat: Norm Powell was 10/11 on threes for the first round And wasnt his one miss a half court buzzer beater attempt?
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Dwight on being benched in the fourth;quote:“It hurts,” Howard said. “I’m sure if you wrote the best stories in the world and nobody read your stories and they told you to stop writing and you saw somebody else’s story that wasn’t as good as yours, I’m pretty sure you’d be pissed too. That’s how it is in basketball.” I do not like anything about this man
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Cool Buff Man posted:Dwight on being benched in the fourth; I'm sort of in awe of this analogy. Like, how does he think writing works?
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Cool Buff Man posted:Dwight on being benched in the fourth; Ok, sure, fine whatever, but that's how it is in basketball
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Lockback posted:What do people think of this Wizards/Boston matchup? I originally had Boston with a solid edge but now I don't know. Horford has been quietly balling out, but the guard/Wing play of the Wizards is a more consistent version of what was working for the Bulls. I could see it going either way, but thankfully Boston's biggest strength is probably their wing defense and neither Beal or Wall are big enough to bully the small Celts like Jimmy did so I think they're actually in a bit better of a place than they were in the first round. Gonna be a chippy one no matter what Mr. Mambold posted:Ok, sure, fine whatever, but that's how it is in basketball Hahaha
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Cool Buff Man posted:I could see it going either way, but thankfully Boston's biggest strength is probably their wing defense and neither Beal or Wall are big enough to bully the small Celts like Jimmy did so I think they're actually in a bit better of a place than they were in the first round. Gonna be a chippy one no matter what That was my thought, but you won't have a Canaan or even Rondo to hide IT on. And Otto Porter had a real good round 1 and he DOES have size and shooting that will make the Boston Zone tough. I dunno, it's more of a tossup than I originally thought, but maybe I am over-estimating Washington after going against a kind of lackluster Atlanta team.
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Lockback posted:That was my thought, but you won't have a Canaan or even Rondo to hide IT on. And Otto Porter had a real good round 1 and he DOES have size and shooting that will make the Boston Zone tough. I dunno, it's more of a tossup than I originally thought, but maybe I am over-estimating Washington after going against a kind of lackluster Atlanta team. Yeah, it's not going to be an easy series for either team and it should be drat fun to watch.
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Lockback posted:the Boston Zone Cool Buff Man posted:Yeah, it's not going to be an easy series for either team and it should be drat fun to watch. Let's hope it's fun, and not 
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Who, besides Westbrook, deserves the 'drag your team into the playoffs award'? Like what would the Cavs record be without LeBron, or wizards without Wall?
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Ammanas posted:Who, besides Westbrook, deserves the 'drag your team into the playoffs award'? Like what would the Cavs record be without LeBron, or wizards without Wall? well in the last few years the cavs have been like 6-37 without lebron in the lineup so i imagine their record wouldn't be good without him.
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Ammanas posted:Who, besides Westbrook, deserves the 'drag your team into the playoffs award'? Like what would the Cavs record be without LeBron, or wizards without Wall? Jimmy Butler deserves that award more than anyone..
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Metapod posted:Giannis Middleton and Maker >>> anyone not Jimmy Butler on the Bulls dokmo posted:Gobert Gordon Hayward, Iso Joe >>>> than anyone not named Jimmy Butler on the Bulls.
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Ammanas posted:Who, besides Westbrook, deserves the 'drag your team into the playoffs award'? Like what would the Cavs record be without LeBron, or wizards without Wall? Well they were the 7 seed, but the only reason the Pacers made the playoffs is because PG went nuts the last two months of the season.
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Dexo posted:Jimmy Butler deserves that award more than anyone.. This feels right
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