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eXXon posted:The draft system is a failure judged solely on its results because it rewarded incompetent shitstain Kevin Lowe with McDavid and now the Oilers are in the 2nd round and might make the conference finals. That was the old system. Ginette Reno posted:drat if Hischier or Patrick pan out the Flyers have a pretty good amount of talent. Let us not forget they ran out their only good goalie in this century.
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Mcdavid was drafted under the new system edit: i guess not under the new new system of top 3 lottery picks. is the nhl going to gently caress with the lottery every other year now hifi fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 04:59
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No, McDavid was drafted under the new odds but not the 3 pick system. That was first used last year.
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hifi posted:Mcdavid was drafted under the new system Maybe you can wait and see if they do and then complain about how it's bad. I know this is meta and doesn't have to do with whether or not your particular preferred outcome occurred, but sports only work if everyone is trying to win, otherwise it's an Athletic Demonstration.
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Apr 30, 2017 05:04
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in all my years watching sports i dont think it has ever been ruined by tanking
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The draft itself is stupid in a league with a hard cap and hard contract limits on both rookies and individual players.
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Gio posted:in all my years watching sports i dont think it has ever been ruined by tanking You wouldn't say that if you were a Ducks fan probably.
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glynnenstein posted:Maybe you can wait and see if they do and then complain about how it's bad. I feel like im in a forum about Dota reading this post
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Aphrodite posted:You wouldn't say that if you were a Ducks fan probably.
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hifi posted:I feel like im in a forum about Dota reading this post Your life is harder than I'd appreciated. I apologize for telling you about how wrong you were a second ago.
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glynnenstein posted:I know this is meta and doesn't have to do with whether or not your particular preferred outcome occurred, but sports only work if everyone is trying to win, otherwise it's an Athletic Demonstration. luckily all of the players on the ice are generally trying very hard to win even when they suck badly and it maintains this illusory purity of Sport you speak of
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If the coyotes are the ones responsible for having hockey reclassified as an Athletic Demonstration by not spending to the cap by signing steve ott this offseason then so be it.
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Apr 30, 2017 05:26
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Potentially not fielding the most talented squad when faced with impossible odds of getting to the post season, letting your young guys get some minutes against NHL talent, and not throwing good money after bad by potentially risking injuring your few and precious valuable assets, loving HOGWASH. How dare you break MY immersion. Amuse me, sports players and businessmen.
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Aye Doc posted:luckily all of the players on the ice are generally trying very hard to win and it maintains this illusory purity of Sport you speak of It's true, and as a fan of a team that tanked very effectively in every sense there are still fun moments thanks to the players still trying, but management directed tanking screws it up on the margins. There's no moral excuse for forcing fans to watch Jamie Heward play almost two full seasons of NHL hockey.
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This draft lottery thing is entertaining, but it takes out much of the motivation for tanking. If we keep this up, then teams will WANT to improve. Imagine how boring it'd be to have 31 teams all fighting for 16 playoff spots.
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CommaToes posted:This draft lottery thing is entertaining, but it takes out much of the motivation for tanking.
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CommaToes posted:This draft lottery thing is entertaining, but it takes out much of the motivation for tanking. No it doesn't No they won't Imagine a world where tanking actually isn't a problem and all the hand wringing over a completely viable and not-nearly-as-prevalent-as-perceived strategy causes reactionary rule changes that actually make things worse and makes it even harder for perennially lovely teams to get better because .500 teams get higher draft picks than a team that loses 60 games!!
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Teemu Pokemon posted:No it doesn't The NHL board of Governors is only able to deal with one alternate reality at a time and they are currently preoccupied by the one in which head injuries are no big deal.
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They are actually dealing with two because they're currently living in the one where tanking and the draft are problems that need to be fixed
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:The draft itself is stupid in a league with a hard cap and hard contract limits on both rookies and individual players. Empty quoting this forever.
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The draft is dumb, unethical, and you're never getting rid of it. There, I saved you guys some time.
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where is this 'the draft is dumb' poo poo coming from
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The draft is unethical from a labor standpoint, but sports leagues don't operate under the same laws of reality because they are encouraged to enforce parity for entertainment purposes and the most effective way to do that is to let the bad teams have the first crack at the best incoming players!! If law firms were essentially forced to ideally be relatively equally effective and competitive, maybe there would be a lawyer draft and the valedictorian of Harvard law might have to spend 3 years in Wyoming, but nobody is buying tickets to go sit in for Cheyenne traffic court so Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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I don't want Colorado to improve, and neither do any of you you concern trolls.
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The schadenfreude ship already sailed when the Oilers stole McDavid
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Teemu Pokemon posted:The draft is unethical from a labor standpoint, but sports leagues don't operate under the same laws of reality because they are encouraged to enforce parity for entertainment purposes and the most effective way to do that is to let the bad teams have the first crack at the best incoming players!! tbf no one is paying to see hockey games in arizona either
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Aphrodite posted:I don't want Colorado to improve, and neither do any of you you concern trolls. been on this brigade since 01 tbh
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Teemu Pokemon posted:The schadenfreude ship already sailed when the Oilers stole McDavid The original sin was the Pens stealing of Crosby from the Caps, the
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Teemu Pokemon posted:The draft is unethical from a labor standpoint, but sports leagues don't operate under the same laws of reality because they are encouraged to enforce parity for entertainment purposes and the most effective way to do that is to let the bad teams have the first crack at the best incoming players!! That's how the RCMP works in canada. Nobody wants to be a cop in buttfuck Saskatchewan, so once they graduate from the academy, they have to put a few years in in whatever shithole needs cops. Unfortunately then you end up with Quebeckers in rural Saskatchewan that hate life and show it. Immigrant doctors seem to work the same way, which ends up with the olds who are the only ones still living out there having to deal with a new minority every few years and they love it.
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gently caress ken holland
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Powershift posted:That's how the RCMP works in canada. Don't forget how this puts extremely racist white assholes in charge of Native reservations.
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glynnenstein posted:The original sin was the Pens stealing of Crosby from the Caps, the The Pens stole Lemieux from the Devils way before that
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Lets get this thread back on trackGio posted:gently caress ken holland There we go
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Aphrodite posted:I don't want Colorado to improve, and neither do any of you you concern trolls. Yeah, but the alternative right now is the Flyers and Devils.
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I have confidence in the incompetence of those two teams.
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Aphrodite posted:I have confidence in the incompetence of those two teams. Ben Lovejoy averaged 21 minutes a game this season
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I wonder who Dallas takes. Sportsnet has that Finnish d-man ranked 3rd. They've already got two pretty good Finnish prospects on D with Lindell and Honka, I wonder if they'd take another.
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Gio posted:where is this 'the draft is dumb' poo poo coming from The whole reason the draft exists in the first place is to keep rich teams from buying all the best talent and to depress individual player salaries. There's no reason for it in a salary cap league that also limits player contracts.
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Aw poo poo, I wasn't being facetious enough. Poe's law, I guess.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:The whole reason the draft exists in the first place is to keep rich teams from buying all the best talent and to depress individual player salaries. There's no reason for it in a salary cap league that also limits player contracts.
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