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sparkmaster posted:I don't think we really lost all that much as far as capabilities go. The SK60 was practically useless, and the Su-25 was useful but only in limited circumstances (and it seemed like 1/4th of their Vikhrs malfunctioned). The F-4s hurt, but we still have 6 of them, and their usefulness so far has been limited to being bomb trucks (AIM-120B's suck, apparently). We still have our tankers, our EWAR, and our AEW. We're still 90% combat effective. The dictator can't say this after that debacle in the air. I think this is actually mostly true. The main issue is that our margins have shrunk. That mess of Migs would have been a disaster if Rohan hadn't rolled like she did, and unexpected threats on expected axis cannot be accounted for with no reserve on our part. Clearly we need a large number of various and diverse additional 3rd generation jets.
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Night10194 posted:Where can we find a billion F5s. NewMars posted:I can't wait to see the reddit brigade's response to this. I am Super Interested in what our ground forces have been doing, surely the thunderdome couldn't have lasted for our entire Angolan Campaign in game time... can it? I really want to be the guy who stole a jet from neoliberals.
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Thunderdome is still going on, its finals season so it slowed down quite a bit.
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glynnenstein posted:I think this is actually mostly true. The main issue is that our margins have shrunk. That mess of Migs would have been a disaster if Rohan hadn't rolled like she did, and unexpected threats on expected axis cannot be accounted for with no reserve on our part. As much as I would like three full squadrons of MiG-21s for maximum delta wing, I think our money would be better spent getting more modern fighters. As I said before, Gripen Fs can carry 6 Meteors, and we're the best flying advertisement for Saab ever. I'm sure they would part with some of their cutting edge fighters in exchange for their use of our gun camera footage in their next marketing campaign.
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Telsa Cola posted:Thunderdome is still going on, its finals season so it slowed down quite a bit. So they really won't be doing anything ingame at all until the thunderdome is completed? No matter how long it takes out of game? edit: not to rush you or anything, just for clarification. Don't not-study!
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Night10194 posted:Where can we find a billion F5s. BS, I'm sure we can find Tigersharks...somewhere. This is Alt-Hist land, remember?
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Groggy nard posted:I am Super Interested in what our ground forces have been doing, Cracking eachother in the ribs with 2x4s and chairs.
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Davin Valkri posted:BS, I'm sure we can find Tigersharks...somewhere. This is Alt-Hist land, remember? You know, it'd make sense for it to suddenly pop up as an affordable 'starter' PMC fighter. A design that finally found its market.
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Davin Valkri posted:BS, I'm sure we can find Tigersharks...somewhere. This is Alt-Hist land, remember? A-6Fs, A-12s and F-14E Super Tomcats are also modelled in CMANO. I wonder if we can obtain them here.
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Davin Valkri posted:BS, I'm sure we can find Tigersharks...somewhere. This is Alt-Hist land, remember? Sadly not Alt-Hist enough for this though 
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Groggy nard posted:So they really won't be doing anything ingame at all until the thunderdome is completed? No matter how long it takes out of game? For clarification, I am not the one running it, but that seems to be the way of it. As it is Im not sure the ground mercs will have a presence at all in Angolia during the air operations.A good way to do future tie ins would be for Phi and Yooper to communicate before Yooper sets up a match and have the the ground mercs shoot for an objective and either succeed or not which Yooper can take into account when he makes the map. But thats a lot of effort and scheduling. But yeah its finals season so it should settle down soon. The system he is using is insane so honestly I just hope he doesn't burn out. It takes hours to run a few turns basically. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Dreamsicle posted:A-6Fs, A-12s and F-14E Super Tomcats are also modelled in CMANO. I wonder if we can obtain them here. Is there Mirage 4000 in CMANO? K&P could probably get their hands on a couple. Also, look at it - it's like a Rafale, but even prettier: 
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Gervasius posted:Is there Mirage 4000 in CMANO? K&P could probably get their hands on a couple. Unfortunately, I can't find them in the database.
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Davin Valkri posted:BS, I'm sure we can find Tigersharks...somewhere. This is Alt-Hist land, remember? Just need to talk to this guy named Pops McCoy, he can get you drat near anything from ranging toilet paper, warheads, to impounded Iranian F-14s... just be careful when he's offering surplus Sidewinders for $50 each*. He's basically Willie, if Willie was a maybe-maybe-not CIA Agent instead of a mattress salesman. * He's never sold a missile that wouldn't fire he claims, its out of his hands after that.
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Those sparrows look like just the ticket to make this actually worthwhile for us rather than 'lol throw 20 F5s at 'em, it only costs 1 grippen'
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sparkmaster posted:As much as I would like three full squadrons of MiG-21s for maximum delta wing, I think our money would be better spent getting more modern fighters. As I said before, Gripen Fs can carry 6 Meteors, and we're the best flying advertisement for Saab ever. I'm sure they would part with some of their cutting edge fighters in exchange for their use of our gun camera footage in their next marketing campaign. I will continue to beat the drum for interesting and diverse over best! A find of six F-111s mistakenly diverted and parked on a deserted Telstra property is my dream.
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Gervasius posted:Is there Mirage 4000 in CMANO? K&P could probably get their hands on a couple.  The Rafale looks much better
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Also the F-20 being cancelled the year of my birth means it's my destiny for a pixelman to die on one of those for me or someshit like that.
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Missed the stream, can't wait for the video. (This is going to be bad, isn't it?  )Any chance of getting some Harriers, Avro Vulcans or JA37 Viggens for the goon flying circus? (There's even an EW version of the JA37, for maximum weirdness.)
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I saw a mountain of replies to the thread, an whole unch of spoilered stuff...oh god, what happened? Did the Bulgarians break through? I know we've apparently lost some planes - did they take out our support elements? Are we pulling out of the theatre? On the more positive side, I'm interested in this talk of tiger sharks, and not just because I'm a plane hipster.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I saw a mountain of replies to the thread, an whole unch of spoilered stuff...oh god, what happened? Did the Bulgarians break through? I know we've apparently lost some planes - did they take out our support elements? Are we pulling out of the theatre? You can watch the unedited stream thing here if you absolutely cannot wait. https://youtu.be/UqS1V_jeknI
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I am still waiting for the edited video as I missed the stream, but tell me: Was Nurse and Beguiler shot down? Spoil the answer if you want. Inquiring minds need to know.
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Wow, dat mission. Consider me completely impressed. Amazing LP and an insane highlight of anything I have ever seen on the Internet. So many deaths.. So many deaths.. Also, I vote that if we find /that/ last pilot ejected we hire him on the spot to train our pilots because JEEZE.
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I'm on board with buying a swarm of F-20s to replace our SK60s because it seems less fun to have our swarm of dudes limited to rocket attacks instead of buzzing around firing Mavericks and Sparrows at things
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That was loving beautiful! Somebody really needs to make a poster for the inevitable movie and/or video game based on this operation. When that AWACS showed up I thought that things would become the wrong kind of interesting, but then Rohan casually Meteored it from across the map.. Silent Bob Really looking forward to Dos Santos' Twitter meltdown. PenguinSalsa fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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I wouldn't want to buy the tigershark to be honest, sparrows are kinda bad. However, if we want an sk60 replacement, why not the harrier? Look at all these brimstones https://wiki.baloogancampaign.com/index.php/DataAircraft?ID=1097
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Quinntan posted:I wouldn't want to buy the tigershark to be honest, sparrows are kinda bad. However, if we want an sk60 replacement, why not the harrier? Seconding this, Harriers are far more interesting and could replace both the Hawks and the Sk60s.
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Vando posted:Friends don't let friends fly Harriers I think the nature of the relationship was already established when we gave them SK60s.
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PenguinSalsa posted:Seconding this, Harriers are far more interesting and could replace both the Hawks and the Sk60s. Hawk singular, we lost it the first time we went full basil the bulgar slayer. Edit Vando posted:Friends don't let friends fly Harriers Think of all the wacky basing we can come up with what with them being vtol!
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     Op Impacts Below, I'll do a big update later on. First off, MI-8's picked up our downed Phantom pilots. The 5th regiment found Tapco and Rock, Paper, and Fungus. Unfortunately Silent Bob did not survive his ejection from his Rafale. At the moment Rohan is inconsolable. The Bulgarians fled shortly after and reinforced the coastal corridor in the West. The 19th Regiment advanced quickly filling up Toyotas and Ford Econovans at civilian gas stations until they finally couldn't go any further. But the huge gains came from Mbeke's Rangers in the east. Once the armor threat was done his infantry advanced cautiously and realized that there were no Angolan government forces to halt them. The Dictator pulled his troops back. Right now they are still probing the extents but three more lithium mines have fallen into our hands. Oh, and a small air strip in the East too. The Free State has also taken advantage of this chaos. Though now the Dictator has shorter supply lines, air coverage in all areas, and a war chest big enough to choke a goat. There's a lull in the fighting at the moment and we'll use that time to do a mini procurement phase. All of our vendors have some options for us.
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All right, looks like everything is comming up Millhouse. The procurement phase is going to be something from the wishes I hear from my fellow aviators. I would like some more Frogfoots, those Vikhrs cleaned house!
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