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Ashye posted:I'm am just amazed at backers ability to fixate on just the version number only and just ignore/rewrite any features that don't make it. One of the many fascinating psychological aspects of the legion of broke brained fools pissing away hundreds of millions of dollars is the version number fuckery. It's not even arguable. This is a pre-alpha that should be 0.027 or 0.27 at best. But TWO POINT OH. THREE POINTS OH. FOUR POINT OH. SPEND MONEY. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing quote:Psychological pricing (also price ending, charm pricing) is a pricing/marketing strategy based on the theory that certain prices have a psychological impact. Retail prices are often expressed as "odd prices": a little less than a round number, e.g. $19.99 or £2.98. There's evidence that consumers tend to perceive “odd prices” as being significantly lower than they actually are, tending to round to the next lowest monetary unit.[1] Thus, prices such as $1.99 are associated with spending $1 rather than $2. The theory that drives this is that lower pricing such as this institutes greater demand than if consumers were perfectly rational. quote:Judgments of numerical differences are anchored on left-most digits, a behavioral phenomenon referred to as the left-digit anchoring effect.[3] This hypothesis suggests that people perceive the difference between 1.99 and 3.00 to be closer to 2.01 than to 1.01 because their judgments are anchored on the left-most digit. http://forum.johnson.cornell.edu/faculty/mthomas/LeftDigitEffect.pdf quote:Left-Digit Effect It's kinda sad that something like this is making people subconciously dig deeper in their wallets for internet spaceships only because they refuse to believe what is happening to them. It's the same thing about how CIG prices their ships. Any reputable company that wanted to deliver a game while being honest about their progress would be at 0.0027 / 0.27 or something. This is blatant, in your face manipulation of fools.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning is a sane and generally accepted way to handle version numbers. Not what visionaries like CIG would use though.
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So my understanding right now is 1) Derek Smart is a poopoo head who says nasty things. 2) David Braben is the devil incarnate. Ergo 3) Star Citizen is loving awesome.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:12
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Finally, the outer-space entry in the Ace Ventura series that we've all been waiting for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJgWq_kSR9w
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Apr 30, 2017 21:27
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Space Crabs posted:You mean the kid throwing himself down on the ground right? The trick to appreciating soccer is to not watch it
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Apr 30, 2017 21:33
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quote:You really haven't proved it's not a garage door opener. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but the bar's a little higher than that, I'm afraid. I seriously don't understand how even one person could be this loving stupid. It's breaking my brain. 
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Apr 30, 2017 21:35
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Beet Wagon posted:I seriously don't understand how even one person could be this loving stupid. It's breaking my brain. Admitting it's true wouldn't benefit him any, so he's being disingenuous. Is this your first contact with a person?
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Apr 30, 2017 21:46
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Also they built that mocap studio from a bunch of retooled web cams, and those $40k dumpster desks are actually repurposed gifts from the county WWII museum Oh, and about 200 of those 438 employees are Sandi, and she doesn't demand her VP salary for all of them
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Admitting it's true wouldn't benefit him any, so he's being disingenuous. Is this your first contact with a person? yes 
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Sorry for being harsh dear friend, but it's for your own sake you know Though to be fair, there's a very good chance that dude's also an ineducable idiot 
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the door might be identical in footprint, manufacture, size and function to a Stanley automatic door system but it's way more plausible that somehow the CIG employees converted a mechanical garage opener into a drive system for two separate doors that operates silently and instantly that just looks identical to a stanley automatic door system. For you see I know nothing about mechanical applications or garage door openers and am a complete idiot. I think this is the part where reddit spends a few days theorycrafting on the theoretical possibility of using a garage door opener in this application, working backwards from their conclusion to try and invent evidence like all backers love to do when supporting their faith based viewpoints
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Apr 30, 2017 22:12
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Hey everyone, Papa Johns makes their pizza with little pizza fairies that use magical powers to convert oxygen molecules into pizza. Here is my white paper on why transmutation of matter is theoretically possible if you account for E=MC squared. Therefore you are the idiot for thinking they don't make pizza with magical fairies.
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Apr 30, 2017 22:16
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Space Crabs posted:Hey everyone, Papa Johns makes their pizza with little pizza fairies that use magical powers to convert oxygen molecules into pizza. You got a kickstarter?
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Apr 30, 2017 22:20
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Just the other day I found an old garage door lying around and after I nailed it to my wall it looked like a Star Wars space ship door, garage doors are well known for this.
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Apr 30, 2017 22:23
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Everyone knows that Californian building codes are non-existent, and that there is nothing stopping anyone make office doors out of plywood and automatic garage openers.
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I can see how "stealing the design of a Stanley automatic door and implementing it in a half-rear end fashion" sounds like the kind of things CIG would do.
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Space Crabs posted:the door might be identical in footprint, manufacture, size and function to a Stanley automatic door system but it's way more plausible that somehow the CIG employees converted a mechanical garage opener into a drive system for two separate doors that operates silently and instantly that just looks identical to a stanley automatic door system. But think about it. If something that looks like that was a home built gizmo, it (a) probably doesn't work very well and will likely close on someone killing them and (b) took lots of internal manhours to design and build. In other words, it would still be very expensive in time and money even if they did it in-house!!! I can't see how anyone can defend the stupidity of that door.
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Apr 30, 2017 22:50
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Um spoilers but Ahab actually doesn't get his whale Also I guess we're all Herman Melville in this analogy: Jumped ship years before the voyage's end and then wrote thousands of words on the subject
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Apr 30, 2017 22:54
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I like that guy. He is arguing with 100% certainty that Star Citizen comes out as pitched and therefore anything CIG does is justifiable because of delivering Star Citizen. This blinds him to the fact that nothing has been delivered and there is no guarantee it will be, so therefore things like this need to be scrutinized when you are 3 years beyond your release date. It's like arguing with a literal child about how the world works.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:17
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Whales be melting down, good time to invest in harpoons. 
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I like to imagine a confrontation with that guy in real life. "What about the pencils? Huh? HOW MUCH? HUH, GOON? HUH?!? HOW MUCH?!?!" he says while progressively getting closer and closer to you.
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Sabreseven posted:Whales be melting down, good time to invest in harpoons. No need for a tryworks, they melt down all on their own.
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the thing that they can't seem to get is that no one cares about office supplies or electricity or basic needs of a company what backers should care about is the obviously frivolous spending CIG does on furniture, mocap and executive salaries
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https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/858688342518489090 https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/858734974232666112 https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/858785097838985217
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TheAgent posted:the thing that they can't seem to get is that no one cares about office supplies or electricity or basic needs of a company Yeah really. When you are 3 years past your release date and sending out emails with "to paraphrase John F Kennedy" asking for money it's perfectly reasonable to question things like hundreds of thousands / millions in expenditures on things that have nothing to do with the development of the game. Backers either try to poo poo on that argument completely by justifying $$,$$$ coffee machines and $$,$$$ doors and $$$,$$$ in furniture as "increasing productivity" making it necessary for development and therefore unable to be complained about. This guy wants to be a disingenuous shitlord and drag out things like 0.0001 cents of toilet paper being used to dismiss something that costs tens of thousands because they are both technically expenditures by the company.
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Space Crabs posted:I like that guy. He is arguing with 100% certainty that Star Citizen comes out as pitched and therefore anything CIG does is justifiable because of delivering Star Citizen. Wait till the gaming media, the Escapist excluded, stop being nice.
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I would legit watch a Real World: CIG Edition
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How could a workplace be efficient with money when you have the factors cafeteria+Ben.
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A long long long time ago, in Japan was a painting artist that was famous for his beautiful and awesome painting. He became so famous, that the Shogun of the region ask to bring the artist to his castle. In no time the painter was bring to the castle, and then, the Shogun, ask the artist to paint something that was never paint before; something that no one has ever made or ever see before, and he want's the artist to paint in front of him so he can enjoy the painting process. The artist accepted the challenge but ask one favor to the Shogun, wait for 10 years before he actually create the paint, the Shogun started to yell that was not acceptable! 10 years! but finally, after calm down, he accepted the favor. 10 years later, the artist came back to the castle to paint for the Shogun. He put a beautiful piece of rice paper in front of him, then he prepared some very special black ink from is own made, and finally get his best paintbrush. Then, in less than a second, he draw a perfect freehand circle on the paper. The circle was just incredible, awesome, absolutely no default, every one in the room was staring at this awesome circle on the paper, but suddenly, the Shogun got a terrible anger. He ask his personal guard to kill him by decapitation. Then, the Shogun said that all artist's family has to be sent to jail immediately, and he will go to get them personally with his personal elite guards. When the Shogun enter painter's house, he stopped at the open door, looking inside, what he was seeing was just insane, millions and millions and millions of rice paper, the house was full of paper with circles on them, bad circles, some not finished, some that line do not match at the end, all circles were not perfect circles, when the Shogun enter the house and found even more rice paper in the back of the house, then, he understand that he did a terrible mistake by killing the painter. He understand that the painter trained for 10 years drawing circles, days after days, hours after hours, the painter's was training himself, just for being able to please his Shogun, when the day arrive, with something that was never made before. Then he started to cry, and said that all painter's family and all upcoming new born in family will be placed under his protection for life being. When the Shogun get back to his castle he ask that the painted circle to be put in front of his bed, this way, he can remember every morning the terrible mistake he did by killing the painter who was able to draw a perfect freehand circle that's no one as ever done... Next time you are going to say Star Citizen as no released date, it's vaporware, it's a scam, or there's no game, please remember this story and told yourself that something that was never made before takes times, efforts and sacrifices. Fly Safe! ps: English is not my mother tong. Thanks You.
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Maldoror posted:A long long long time ago, in Japan was a painting artist that was famous for his beautiful and awesome painting. He became so famous, that the Shogun of the region ask to bring the artist to his castle. In no time the painter was bring to the castle, and then, the Shogun, ask the artist to paint something that was never paint before; something that no one has ever made or ever see before, and he want's the artist to paint in front of him so he can enjoy the painting process. Yeah. But he didn't ask for the Shogun's money first.
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Maldoror posted:A long long long time ago, in Japan was a painting artist that was famous for his beautiful and awesome painting. He became so famous, that the Shogun of the region ask to bring the artist to his castle. In no time the painter was bring to the castle, and then, the Shogun, ask the artist to paint something that was never paint before; something that no one has ever made or ever see before, and he want's the artist to paint in front of him so he can enjoy the painting process. Incredible story forum friend. The problem though is that Chris Roberts spent 10 years as a used car salesman and not practicing his coding or even playing a video game.
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grimcreaper posted:Incredible story forum friend. The problem though is that Chris Roberts spent 10 years as a used car salesman and not practicing his coding or even playing a video game. English isnt my mother tong either. I speak American which is English perfected. We dont add silly u's to things and we also spell Aluminum correctly.
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Maldoror posted:A long long long time ago, in Japan was a painting artist that was famous for his beautiful and awesome painting. He became so famous, that the Shogun of the region ask to bring the artist to his castle. In no time the painter was bring to the castle, and then, the Shogun, ask the artist to paint something that was never paint before; something that no one has ever made or ever see before, and he want's the artist to paint in front of him so he can enjoy the painting process. The problem is every time roberts tries to draw a circle it turns into a T, clips through the rice paper and causes existence to crash to desktop.
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