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Oxxidation posted:There's nothing to resolve. He's dead. There is no question about whether or not he died. The only "resolution" anyone can get is everyone standing around for a moment and issuing a eulogy along the lines of "Christ, what an rear end in a top hat."
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Apr 30, 2017 22:27
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my boyfriend, who has been presumed dead after i shot him in the head, texted me this
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Apr 30, 2017 22:28
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Moltrey posted:my boyfriend, who has been presumed dead after i shot him in the head, texted me this I bet good money that Joker probably would've done something like this if they'd actually taken out Shido without Akechi dropping in. poo poo-eating grin, plate of delicious pancakes in the background
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Apr 30, 2017 22:32
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Jeez, the homeless split-personality assassin has a surprisingly dark storyline. I've been checking in on him frequently, both day and night, and the "normal" daytime personality just gets more and more desperate and afraid of what's happening when it becomes night. He writes letters to his other personality and puts them in his own pocket, then the night-time personality reads them and scoffs at them. The further you go, the closer he is to giving in. Eventually he's just whimpering that he really wants the Phantom Thieves to come save him, while the night-time personality is satisfied and assured that he'll have complete control over the body soon enough. It's kind of disturbing.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:03
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Moltrey posted:Also the system was always broken. It's not Goro's fault that he was neglected by the foster system. It's not Goro's fault that Kamoshida had such a powerful influence over Shujin and was ruining teenagers lives. lovely Adults are lovely Adults. While yes, Akechi certainly doesn't help the problem, it's not like he's happy with things as they are, but continues to work opposite. His, yeah probably dumb, plan is to help Shido rise, and then use the Metaverse to just pull the entire rug out from under him, causing one of the biggest social reforms of Japan. Granted yes, it's pretty bad just HOW focused on his father he is, and he also wants to take full credit for the unmasking of Shido, but the kid is 17 years old and his dad ruined his entire life from the get-go, Goro's point of view isn't incomprehensible to me Following the pattern of how these kinds of things happen all throughout history, Akechi would have just been Shido 2.0.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:17
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Motto posted:I like the idea of the bad ending, too bad Joker has no sensible reason to make a deal with the floating man who just tried to kill him. Considering he'd just nearly been erased from existence by the sheer apathy of the general public, and how lovely he'd been treated by most people for the entire game, I'd think he has plenty of reason to say "gently caress the world and everyone in it, except for me and mine." Montegoraon fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 23:23
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Oxxidation posted:I bet good money that Joker probably would've done something like this if they'd actually taken out Shido without Akechi dropping in. they should do this for the remake
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Apr 30, 2017 23:24
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Oxxidation posted:There's nothing to resolve. He's dead. There is no question about whether or not he died. The only "resolution" anyone can get is everyone standing around for a moment and issuing a eulogy along the lines of "Christ, what an rear end in a top hat." nice reaching
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Apr 30, 2017 23:26
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Oxxidation posted:There's nothing to resolve. He's dead. There is no question about whether or not he died. The only "resolution" anyone can get is everyone standing around for a moment and issuing a eulogy along the lines of "Christ, what an rear end in a top hat." That's what this thread is
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Apr 30, 2017 23:36
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Instant Grat posted:Jeez, the homeless split-personality assassin has a surprisingly dark storyline. I've been checking in on him frequently, both day and night, and the "normal" daytime personality just gets more and more desperate and afraid of what's happening when it becomes night. He writes letters to his other personality and puts them in his own pocket, then the night-time personality reads them and scoffs at them. The further you go, the closer he is to giving in. Eventually he's just whimpering that he really wants the Phantom Thieves to come save him, while the night-time personality is satisfied and assured that he'll have complete control over the body soon enough. It's kind of disturbing. The way they did these stories are neat. Someone in the main thread pointed out that there's a storyline with Kotaro the dog and the Dog-Loving Girl that advances over the course of the game, and I've been following it in NG+. I hope Kotaro is okay.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:37
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Pollyanna posted:Following the pattern of how these kinds of things happen all throughout history, Akechi would have just been Shido 2.0.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:38
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Moltrey posted:akechi was, is, and will be a sweet child of god Moltrey, you've got to cut it out with idolising all these dashing anime serial killers
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Apr 30, 2017 23:40
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Apr 30, 2017 23:41
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multijoe posted:Moltrey, you've got to cut it out with idolising all these dashing anime serial killers
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Apr 30, 2017 23:41
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Montegoraon posted:Considering he'd just nearly been erased from existence by the sheer apathy of the general public, and how lovely he'd been treated by most people for the entire game, I'd think he has plenty of reason to say "gently caress the world and everyone in it, except for me and mine." Took a peek at that ending on Youtube, and it's pretty clearly not much of an ending beyond giving you a little more than the usual "but thou must!" choice, but I was still curious what actually happened to the other Phantom Thieves in it. Does the God of Control release them so they can carry on being the Phantom Thieves? Does Evil Joker keep the deal to himself and let the others think he defeated the God of Control while they were out of it? If they're still Phantom Thieves then the Metaverse must exist, so they must still know Mementos exists, which would make it hard for Joker to convince them there was nothing to worry about, unless the apathy/control powers extend to manipulating his team mates? I guess maybe Joker just becomes like Akechi, a solo murderous madman rear end in a top hat taking revenge on the world by having it praise him for solving the crimes he sets up. Although if the Persona 5 design team were out of ideas for alternate/bonus content to put into a Persona 5: Golden, an alternate ending where the team breaks free on their own and has to take down Evil Joker would be neat. Wonder what his palace would look like?
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Apr 30, 2017 23:44
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Dolash posted:Wonder what his palace would look like? nothing but those booty statues from kamoshida's palace
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Apr 30, 2017 23:49
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joker's palace is just an attic guarded by a maid that fights using coffee, curry, and laundry. her special massage special instantly kills a single party member
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Apr 30, 2017 23:49
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wizard on a water slide posted:The way they did these stories are neat. Someone in the main thread pointed out that there's a storyline with Kotaro the dog and the Dog-Loving Girl that advances over the course of the game, and I've been following it in NG+. Ahaha. Ahaha.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:50
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Dolash posted:Took a peek at that ending on Youtube, and it's pretty clearly not much of an ending beyond giving you a little more than the usual "but thou must!" choice, but I was still curious what actually happened to the other Phantom Thieves in it. Does the God of Control release them so they can carry on being the Phantom Thieves? Does Evil Joker keep the deal to himself and let the others think he defeated the God of Control while they were out of it? If they're still Phantom Thieves then the Metaverse must exist, so they must still know Mementos exists, which would make it hard for Joker to convince them there was nothing to worry about, unless the apathy/control powers extend to manipulating his team mates? The way I interpreted that ending, it's basically made the Phantom Thieves the one society depends on instead of Shido. But it's unclear whether it's a solo outfit now or if the others are still there.
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Apr 30, 2017 23:52
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Dolash posted:Evil Joker there are law apologists on these very forums, be careful lest they find this space
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Apr 30, 2017 23:53
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boy I'll square up for Law anytime granted my Law train ends at "SMT 1 Law Hero is best boy", "Zelenin and Mastema are pretty cool" and "Law is always better than Chaos and even sometimes Neutral if the Neutral answer is just return to the status quo (only if the status quo is bad like SJ"
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Apr 30, 2017 23:57
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Everyone got mind controlled in Law SJ....Zelenin and Mastema can gently caress off!!!
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May 1, 2017 00:02
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Moltrey posted:boy I'll square up for Law anytime Look at these awful opinions. Look at them.
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May 1, 2017 00:02
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Moltrey posted:akechi was, is, and will be a sweet child of god You're like those girls who sent Ted Bundy fan mail while he was in prison Smh
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May 1, 2017 00:02
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SJ states you literally have to be mentally ill to side with Law. Law freaking sucks!!
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May 1, 2017 00:02
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Persona 5 is cool because you get the cool 'rebel angel who sides with humanity against the Great Authority' side of Lucifer without any of his problematic 'unmake creation an usher in an age of eternal darkness' agenda
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May 1, 2017 00:03
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Hear and Obey The Word Of The Lord Praise YHVH (don't ask me why I hate Chaos, yet like Law, Hate The Cops, and went True Demon Ending in Nocturne, we all contain hypocrisies)
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May 1, 2017 00:06
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Chaos is only good in Nocturne and Devil Survivor 1.
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May 1, 2017 00:05
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ROFL Octopus posted:You're like those girls who sent Ted Bundy fan mail while he was in prison
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May 1, 2017 00:07
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we've had akechi wrong all along, his true name is goro pancakechi
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May 1, 2017 00:11
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Chaos is only good in Nocturne and Devil Survivor 1. also the Raidou games but the alignment stuff was practically invisible
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May 1, 2017 00:16
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Argas posted:The way I interpreted that ending, it's basically made the Phantom Thieves the one society depends on instead of Shido. But it's unclear whether it's a solo outfit now or if the others are still there. Morgana's the only one that probably wouldn't accept the deal, so it's possible that Yaldoboath doesn't let him out in that ending.
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May 1, 2017 00:18
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NRVNQSR posted:Morgana's the only one that probably wouldn't accept the deal, so it's possible that Yaldoboath doesn't let him out in that ending. This is the real reason why that choice isn't even a choice
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May 1, 2017 00:29
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Moltrey posted:akechi was, is, and will be a sweet child of god i mean he is, unironically, the best character in the game
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May 1, 2017 00:32
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Moltrey posted:boy I'll square up for Law anytime I think I cannot get along with Law heroes on a fundamental level. Zelanin and Mastema had me throwing up in my own mouth. Like, Chaos paths are generally horrible but at least I can grasp why people would be attracted to it.
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May 1, 2017 00:31
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This is the real reason why that choice isn't even a choice
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May 1, 2017 00:34
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Meme Emulator posted:I think I cannot get along with Law heroes on a fundamental level. Zelanin and Mastema had me throwing up in my own mouth. Like, Chaos paths are generally horrible but at least I can grasp why people would be attracted to it. SMT 1 Law Hero is def the most sympathetic, though probably by virtue of just not having as much development as characters of later games. Law Hero is just a nice, morally consciousness kid who survives the demon apocalypse. but is still killed by Alice's guardians in order to be her toy. Revived by God, he's told that he's the new Messiah and must spread the word of the Lord and honestly, what reason does he have NOT to believe that and his once friend is now a godless heathen who will not join him. I haven't gotten to IV yet to see Jonathan's deal, but he seems like a sweet boy and his design is pretty similar to SMT 1's Law Hero, like Walter is to the Chaos Hero
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May 1, 2017 00:38
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NRVNQSR posted:Joker will never sleep properly again. A terrible fate. https://twitter.com/Octopimp/status/857346862067535873
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Moltrey posted:I can't blame anyone for not liking Zelanin or Mastema, but I do just for Mastema being just an arrogant scheming fucker the whole time. The law path in IV is quite horrifying.
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