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I enjoyed American Gods but I didn't love it. I think? I'm not quite sure what I think of it, which was my immediate reaction to the book too. I'm interested and I enjoyed myself. The tone was all over the place and I could never quite decide if I liked or hated the look of it. But again, that fits the tone of the original and I think it's how you probably have to adapt it. So I'm in. McShane was great, Wittle was good, and I really like the "Coming to America..." thing. I'm just secretly dreading Kristin Chenowith because I've hated everything I've seen her in. And I'm probably avoiding the thread because it seems like it's gonna be a lot of really intense book fans and all that comes with that.
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May 1, 2017 08:47
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Gonz posted:Mads was so good as Hannibal, I've occasionally been at odds with whether or not his take on the character is better than Hopkins' take. I like Mads better, but it's important to realize that they are written differently as well. They are different versions of the character, not just different performances. Mikkelsen also has many times the amount of screentime as Hopkins. If the writing weren't good, this wouldn't be a plus, but since it is, it means that there's just a lot more time spent developing the character. It's apples and oranges.
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May 1, 2017 08:46
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Snak posted:I like Mads better, but it's important to realize that they are written differently as well. They are different versions of the character, not just different performances. Mikkelsen also has many times the amount of screentime as Hopkins. If the writing weren't good, this wouldn't be a plus, but since it is, it means that there's just a lot more time spent developing the character. Definitely. They're both fantastic in their own rights. I just really, really enjoyed Fuller's whole "Hannibal is evil personified" version.
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May 1, 2017 08:49
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Gonz posted:Definitely. They're both fantastic in their own rights. I just really, really enjoyed Fuller's whole "Hannibal is evil personified" version. It's funny you say that, because that's not how I view him at all. He's more of an apex predator than anything. Hannibal:humans::cats:mice
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May 1, 2017 08:53
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Snak posted:It's funny you say that, because that's not how I view him at all. Maybe, but cats chase and eat mice. Whereas Hannibal befriended the mice and then turned into a spider, trapped them in his web, and then methodically destroyed them with prolonged psychological abuse before actually murdering them and eating them. And he enjoyed it, too. It's not just that he's a serial killer. He took immense sociopathic pride in his work, much like the Hopkins version. But unlike Hopkins, Mads came off like a T-1000 version of the character at times. Scene 1: "Have you seen this boy? *shows photo of John Connor to some teens at the mall* No? Sorry. Thank you for your time." Scene 2: *knives everywhere; fast running (feat. million yard stare)* The T-1000 was a robotic killing machine, but it could be polite and even charming if the situation called for it. Both Mads and Hopkins are good, but i'm a hell of a lot more afraid of Mads' Lecter. Gonz fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 1, 2017 |
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May 1, 2017 09:05
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precision posted:I think American Gods is more or less Gaiman's worst novel, though I wouldn't go so far as to say it's actively bad. It's no worse than a mid-tier King novel, for example. Its worst problems are with pacing and tone, which are both all over the loving map, and the show is starting out in a similar way, except the kooky tonal shifts work better in a trippy visual medium. I think Gaiman's short story collections are generally better than his novels. I prefer stuff like "A Study In Emerald" or to American Gods or Anansi Boys (though I liked both of those books). Neverwhere is very good on its own, though; it's probably his best novel. Would rather read Kim Newman, though. Shame that none of his stuff has ever managed to get adapted.
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May 1, 2017 10:21
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The Ocean at the End of the Lane renewed my faith in long-form Gaiman. It didn't have any of the pacing issues that have plagued pretty much all his stories. Though yeah at the end of the day I don't really think he's written anything bad per se. If nothing else his characters always have style.
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I didn't much care for American Gods. I didn't really have that high of expectations either because even with good creators and cast it's still drawing on source material that I really didn't like at all. I just kind of hoped for the people behind it to make something more of it and the first episode didn't really give me much except lots of style and very little substance.
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May 1, 2017 10:58
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So I waited until 3 years after it aired to watch PSYCH's final season and...oooo that was not good. Roday and Hill still have fantastic chemistry, but creatively - such as it is - that show had nothing to do after like Season 5. Given they ended on Season 8 that's a lot of C-grade material. At least 1 or 2 episodes a season were great though, so there was that.
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X-O posted:I didn't much care for American Gods. I didn't really have that high of expectations either because even with good creators and cast it's still drawing on source material that I really didn't like at all. I just kind of hoped for the people behind it to make something more of it and the first episode didn't really give me much except lots of style and very little substance. Kind of the same? Ian McShane is great and can do a lot to save a show (Kings) though.
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May 1, 2017 13:46
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STAC Goat posted:I'm just secretly dreading Kristin Chenowith because I've hated everything I've seen her in. This is the craziest thing I've ever read
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May 1, 2017 14:40
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I think everyone needs to see this, perhaps the newest pinnacle of subtle, well done, product placement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8T2kZ8f6BA
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At first I thought that just a really weird commercial and not a clip from a TV show I don't watch.DrVenkman posted:So I waited until 3 years after it aired to watch PSYCH's final season and...oooo that was not good. Roday and Hill still have fantastic chemistry, but creatively - such as it is - that show had nothing to do after like Season 5. Given they ended on Season 8 that's a lot of C-grade material. At least 1 or 2 episodes a season were great though, so there was that. Yeah, Psych didn't end great, probably had a lot to do with some of the actors trying to do their own shows. The whole thing with Shawn and Jules was a prolonged trainwreck.
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May 1, 2017 14:47
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IRQ posted:I think everyone needs to see this, perhaps the newest pinnacle of subtle, well done, product placement: Does anyone remember this one particularly memorable product placement for a phone app; I can't remember its name or what show it was in, but it involved the show grinding to a halt so that one main character could explain to another how the app worked for like a minute. I think it was for renting/buying cars? Or possibly renting/buying houses.
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May 1, 2017 14:53
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Probably Hawaii 5-0.
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Argue posted:Does anyone remember this one particularly memorable product placement for a phone app; I can't remember its name or what show it was in, but it involved the show grinding to a halt so that one main character could explain to another how the app worked for like a minute. I think it was for renting/buying cars? Or possibly renting/buying houses. Royal Pains? Or some USA network show. I think the app was for buying / selling used cars.
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raditts posted:At first I thought that just a really weird commercial and not a clip from a TV show I don't watch. Nobody should watch it, it's a garbage fire. I keep watching it out of a curiosity to see how dumb it can get.
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May 1, 2017 15:01
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Royal Pains for Auto Trader I think.
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Argue posted:Does anyone remember this one particularly memorable product placement for a phone app; I can't remember its name or what show it was in, but it involved the show grinding to a halt so that one main character could explain to another how the app worked for like a minute. I think it was for renting/buying cars? Or possibly renting/buying houses. Yeah, that one was the Royal Pains AutoTrader one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFIrmOAMqxg Mu Zeta posted:Probably Hawaii 5-0. Hawaii Five-O did the Subway one. Well, that and the constant product placement for Windows Phones and that Microsoft Surface Table that nobody ever used in real life. raditts fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 1, 2017 |
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May 1, 2017 15:03
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Ford always seems to have the worst, most obvious, product placements. There's a scene in last season of Sleepy Hollow where someone had to use the cameras on the car to traverse a narrow mountain pass. The ones in Fringe were pretty bad too.
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raditts posted:Hawaii Five-O did the Subway one. Well, that and the constant product placement for Windows Phones and that Microsoft Surface Table that nobody ever used in real life. Bing it
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Argue posted:Does anyone remember this one particularly memorable product placement for a phone app; I can't remember its name or what show it was in, but it involved the show grinding to a halt so that one main character could explain to another how the app worked for like a minute. I think it was for renting/buying cars? Or possibly renting/buying houses. Burn Notice did multiple OnStar advertisements (usually in the process of stealing cars)
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bull3964 posted:Ford always seems to have the worst, most obvious, product placements. It got gradually more ridiculous in each season of 24.
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White Collar had some obnoxious ad placement too. For Ford cars and their features, I think. Burn Notice also casually threw out this annoying poo poo.
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There's a scene in the new X-Files series which exists only to show an automatic breaking feature of the car they're driving.
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raditts posted:This is the craziest thing I've ever read Yeah, I know. Like everyone absolutely is one way about it and I just can't stand her. No accounting for taste, I suppose.
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IRQ posted:I think everyone needs to see this, perhaps the newest pinnacle of subtle, well done, product placement: I like how the characters themselves seem annoyed by having to do the product placement.
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That's some quality product placement. Second only to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36wUmJGzvA
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Burn Notice also casually threw out this annoying poo poo. I'm 100% fine with this kind of product placement and would take it 100 times over real commercial breaks. Sure it's over the top and obvious, but it makes sense in the context of the show. TV execs gotta get more and more creative with their advertising with streaming picking up so much. And I'd rather the occasional Uber reference in a TV show to no TV show.
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The Detroiters season finale had way too much product placement, but when it's a show about a bush-league ad agency, that's to be expected. Also the imitation of the average Detroit-based commercial was spot-on.
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Burn Notice product placement was obvious but like they had fun with it by just making it part of Michael's thing and I think it worked. He was always giving those kind of "tips" so it fit. But Chuck still takes the cake by just embracing the hell out of it and making Subway essentially part of the cast. I'm actually genuinely shocked they just didn't have Sarah work in a CIA front Subway. I actually don't notice much product placement and I think its weird when people get freaked out that a character asked for a "Budweiser" instead of a "beer." Its just when they get sloppy and lazy about the subsequent ads that its a little obnoxious. But even then its rarely more than eye roll for me. But also, most of the really egregious examples I've seen are from shows I don't watch for a lot of reasons.
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May 1, 2017 21:50
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Bones, when they spent an entire episode trying to get tickets for Avatar.
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STAC Goat posted:I actually don't notice much product placement and I think its weird when people get freaked out that a character asked for a "Budweiser" instead of a "beer." Its just when they get sloppy and lazy about the subsequent ads that its a little obnoxious. But even then its rarely more than eye roll for me. I don't get freaked out about it, I usually just find it hilarious. Like when I saw Fate of the Furious yesterday and they lovingly lingered on a can of coke for far too long, in Cuba, a country where you cannot buy coke. I find that unbelievably funny.
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Do they not have Mexican coke? http://www.foodpolitics.com/2015/06/yes-you-can-buy-coke-and-pepsi-in-cuba/ Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 22:24 on May 1, 2017 |
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May 1, 2017 22:08
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There was a Modern Family episode that took place entirely on skype, which I assume was a purchase made by skype or a demand of the ABC subsidiary that owns a big stake in skype.
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IRQ posted:Like when I saw Fate of the Furious yesterday and they lovingly lingered on a can of coke for far too long, in Cuba, a country where you cannot buy coke. I find that unbelievably funny. That was definitely the most unrealistic part of that movie.
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Jack Gladney posted:There was a Modern Family episode that took place entirely on skype, which I assume was a purchase made by skype or a demand of the ABC subsidiary that owns a big stake in skype. It was native advertising for Skype.
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