Fighting Games: the casuals are coming for your niche and you better be afraid

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Night Blade: Feb 25, 2013

HoboWithAShotgun posted:

Use your PC don't even bother looking through a console.

Oh so you just add the game to your account from your PC then download it on the console. Thanks.

# ? May 1, 2017 23:33

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 16:18

Pomp: Apr 3, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

In Training posted:

I took a round off bears once online with 20+ lag.

i've taken games off bears :cool:

# ? May 1, 2017 23:34

Trykt: Jul 30, 2000; Still training..

See me in KI :cool:

# ? May 2, 2017 00:33

Cabbagepots: Apr 7, 2008; Can't post for 4 years!

Almost all fighting games suck now

# ? May 2, 2017 00:47

SethSeries: Sep 10, 2013

Yours won't be any better if it even exists, fam.

# ? May 2, 2017 00:50

Armor-Piercing: Sep 22, 2009; Nightly dance
of bleeding swords

I'm playing Tekken 6 to see if I want to spend $70-100 to get beat up online in Tekken 7, and I'm having a pretty good time fighting ghosts right now.

I remember watching videos that went into this a long time ago, but are there good practices to recover from a knockdown without getting hit a bunch on the way up? Is it best to just stand up into guard instead of trying to roll?

Also, I really like the option in practice mode that shows when you're recovering from an input and when you can push buttons, and I hope T7 also has it. Edit: Watching videos now, it does have it.

Armor-Piercing fucked around with this message at 01:31 on May 2, 2017

# ? May 2, 2017 00:52

Cabbagepots: Apr 7, 2008; Can't post for 4 years!

TheManSeries posted:

Yours won't be any better if it even exists, fam.

If no one else likes it, at least I will.

Unfortunately for you, it's going to be bigger than Street Fighter.

# ? May 2, 2017 01:45

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Cabbagepots posted:

If no one else likes it, at least I will.

Unfortunately for you, it's going to be bigger than Street Fighter.

I have faith in you! Please release a demo soon.

# ? May 2, 2017 01:53

Shadow Ninja 64: May 21, 2007; "I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."

I, like Cabbagepots, have also beaten Bebop before. It was hella sick.

# ? May 2, 2017 01:55

AnonSpore: Jan 19, 2012; "I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

Add me to the beat Bebop club :cool:

# ? May 2, 2017 01:55

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

interrodactyl posted:

People have been saying this for years and I have yet to see a single example of a worthwhile fgc member who started because of max

If he gets more people to buy t7 good for namco but don't pretend like it's a net positive for the community when there's been years to bear out this claim without results

Maybe these people exist but it sure doesn't seem like it

Sorry this is from a couple pages back, but people have been saying it because it's likely true. The odds of his fans becoming interested in fighting games and picking it up for themselves is high since he has such a large following. Having this mindset that someone who watches Max's content isn't up to or will never achieve your own standard of what makes a "worthwhile" FGC member doesn't seem right.

Maybe these people are just a group of friends who play together on their own time against one another who got into fighting games because of Max's videos. Maybe that group of friends will eventually attend a big FGC event, or organize something on their own. Or maybe it's a guy or girl who after watching Max's streams, gets the courage to hit up weeklies at some local venue or on a college campus because they see how much fun Max is having. Or maybe it's just a stream monster who has enjoyed watching Max try out new fighting games, but is so loving bad at fighting games themselves that they only ever really watch fighting game streams and die to the CPU in versus mode on easy. Point I'm trying to make is there might be some definitive purview of what defines the "FGC" you and others have, but just because you haven't seen or accepted any kind of conclusive results of people getting into fighting games because of Max doesn't mean they don't exist and can't be members of fighting game community, does it?

As an aside, regarding the potential of Max influencing an online playerbase thru sales, maybe since you're already really good at fighting games, your MMR is so high that you never get to see or get matched up with the hot trash tier skill level that people who enjoy Max's content likely are lmao. But that doesn't mean those scrubs aren't be part of the fighting game community, right? They're bad, and might never git gud, but if they enjoy fighting games and Max's content, there's nothing wrong or bad about that imo.

teagone fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 2, 2017

# ? May 2, 2017 02:30

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

the only person who i care about if they can beat bebop in a fighting game is cams

# ? May 2, 2017 02:34

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Cams has openly admitted that Bebop would destroy him though. Has he consistently been ducking, or has Cams beat Bebop in something before?

# ? May 2, 2017 02:35

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

teagone posted:

Sorry this is from a couple pages back, but people have been saying it because it's likely true. The odds of his fans becoming interested in fighting games and picking it up for themselves is high since he has such a large following. Having this mindset that someone who watch Max's content isn't up to or will never achieve your own standard of what makes a "worthwhile" FGC member doesn't seem right.

Maybe these people are just a group of friends who play together on their own time against one another who got into fighting games because of Max's videos. Maybe that group of friends will eventually attend a big FGC event, or organize something on their own. Or maybe it's a guy or girl who after watching Max's streams, gets the courage to hit up weeklies at some local venue or on a college campus because they see how much fun Max is having. Or maybe it's just a stream monster who has enjoyed watching Max try out new fighting games, but is so loving bad at fighting games themselves that they only ever really watch fighting game streams and die to the CPU in versus mode on easy. Point I'm trying to make is there might be some definitive purview of what defines the "FGC" you and others have, but just because you haven't seen or accepted any kind of conclusive results of people getting into fighting games because of Max doesn't mean they don't exist and can't be members of fighting game community, does it?

As an aside, regarding the potential of Max influencing an online playerbase thru sales, maybe since you're already really good at fighting games, your MMR is so high that you never get to see or get matched up with the hot trash tier skill level that people who enjoy Max's content likely are lmao. But that doesn't mean those scrubs aren't be part of the fighting game community, right? They're bad, and might never git gud, but if they enjoy fighting games and Max's content, there's nothing wrong or bad about that imo.

max sucks because he teaches people objectively wrong things about fighting games, i dont care about his dumb hypedog dbz fanbase tbh

# ? May 2, 2017 02:36

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

anime was right posted:

max sucks because he teaches people objectively wrong things about fighting games

Wrong things like what? [edit] I've only been watching his stream for maybe a year, and I think he's been at this for a while, so my bad if I might have missed something significant.

# ? May 2, 2017 02:38

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

teagone posted:

Wrong things like what?

telling people that parries are not calculated predetermined inputs but instead reaction, off the top of my head, was the dumbest thing.

he doesnt really understand how 3s works. at all.

# ? May 2, 2017 02:40

Countblanc: Apr 20, 2005; _{Help a hero out!}

I got into fighting games watching silly youtube people - Mike Ross and Gootecks - and I went on to host weekly melty blood locals with my friend in his apartment, make a fighting game club at my then-university focused on prepping for tournaments, and traveled to various events in the midwest for anime games and project: m. But I was also already deep in the competitive scene for other games and the idea of playing to get better and compete was pretty ingrained for me. Anyway my point is that I'm sure Max has inspired some people to actually play games in ways this thread approves of, even if you never hear about it because hwo the heck is going to say "oh yeah I got into the fgc 5 years ago because of yelly wrong nerd man boss rage video."

# ? May 2, 2017 02:41

Slip: Jan 20, 2001

Armor-Piercing posted:

I'm playing Tekken 6 to see if I want to spend $70-100 to get beat up online in Tekken 7, and I'm having a pretty good time fighting ghosts right now.

I remember watching videos that went into this a long time ago, but are there good practices to recover from a knockdown without getting hit a bunch on the way up? Is it best to just stand up into guard instead of trying to roll?

Also, I really like the option in practice mode that shows when you're recovering from an input and when you can push buttons, and I hope T7 also has it. Edit: Watching videos now, it does have it.

In general tech rolling or standing up and blocking are going to be your best options starting out.

# ? May 2, 2017 02:48

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

anime was right posted:

telling people that parries are not calculated predetermined inputs but instead reaction, off the top of my head, was the dumbest thing.

he doesnt really understand how 3s works. at all.

Fair enough. Own those scrubs who are misinformed then, and if you get the chance, tell them why Max is wrong. But if they were playing 3s in the first place, because of Max, isn't that a net positive for the community?

Countblanc posted:

Anyway my point is that I'm sure Max has inspired some people to actually play games in ways this thread approves of, even if you never hear about it because hwo the heck is going to say "oh yeah I got into the fgc 5 years ago because of yelly wrong nerd man boss rage video."

That's the only way to be sure though.

# ? May 2, 2017 02:53

DLC Inc: Jun 1, 2011

Countblanc posted:

I got into fighting games watching silly youtube people - Mike Ross and Gootecks - and I went on to host weekly melty blood locals with my friend in his apartment, make a fighting game club at my then-university focused on prepping for tournaments, and traveled to various events in the midwest for anime games and project: m. But I was also already deep in the competitive scene for other games and the idea of playing to get better and compete was pretty ingrained for me. Anyway my point is that I'm sure Max has inspired some people to actually play games in ways this thread approves of, even if you never hear about it because hwo the heck is going to say "oh yeah I got into the fgc 5 years ago because of yelly wrong nerd man boss rage video."

I love CrossCounter teevee but wish they'd play something other than SFV. I thought their playlists on MvC3 and MK9 were funnier.

# ? May 2, 2017 02:54

Zand: Jul 9, 2003; ~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

i like fighting games and max is clickbait about fighting games

# ? May 2, 2017 03:16

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

max's youtube channel would be better if it was just him being beaten with a crowbar

his dog isn't even a good dog. he has the one Bad Dog.

# ? May 2, 2017 03:23

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

C. Everett Koop posted:

max's youtube channel would be better if it was just him being beaten with a crowbar

That's twice now I've seen you make a post here today saying you'd like to see violence inflicted on Max, haha. drat dude. That said! Apparently Max is going to be playing the Rev 2 demo tonight. Does the demo include online play? If so, guess anyone interested will have a chance to body him on stream.

# ? May 2, 2017 03:39

Alfalfa The Roach: Oct 13, 2012; You need to be a badass first.

I got into fighting games because of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom

# ? May 2, 2017 03:47

Brosnan: Nov 13, 2004; Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled; Lipstick Apathy

Can't wait to body Max on stream, right after I win this battle of the bands against Smashmouth and enter a cookoff to prove Guy Fieri sucks.

# ? May 2, 2017 03:48

Kwilty: May 31, 2011

Max strikes me as like the Warowl of Counter-Strike. A streamer that does some weird voice / humor things, has a couple tutorial videos on games etc. When you get the upper levels you realize like "o this guy was never really that good". However, as stated, the FGC should be happy of getting any new people into the games period. To be selective over people joining is just idiotic.

# ? May 2, 2017 03:50

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

Brosnan posted:

Can't wait to body Max on stream, right after I win this battle of the bands against Smashmouth and enter a cookoff to prove Guy Fieri sucks.

You can do it, you're an all star, get your game on, go play!

# ? May 2, 2017 03:53

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Brosnan posted:

Can't wait to body Max on stream, right after I win this battle of the bands against Smashmouth and enter a cookoff to prove Guy Fieri sucks.

Fine analogies, will admit. But at least you actually have a chance to body Max. As if Smashmouth or Guy Fieri would ever entertain the idea of anonymous competition against them. Pffft. PFFFFT.

[edit]

Kwilty posted:

Max strikes me as like the Warowl of Counter-Strike. A streamer that does some weird voice / humor things, has a couple tutorial videos on games etc. When you get the upper levels you realize like "o this guy was never really that good". However, as stated, the FGC should be happy of getting any new people into the games period. To be selective over people joining is just idiotic.

As a guy who has been playing Counter-Strike for well over a decade, I feel this is also a good comparison.

teagone fucked around with this message at 03:57 on May 2, 2017

# ? May 2, 2017 03:53

Reiley: Dec 16, 2007

C. Everett Koop posted:

his dog isn't even a good dog. he has the one Bad Dog.

gently caress you

# ? May 2, 2017 04:10

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

teagone posted:

That's twice now I've seen you make a post here today saying you'd like to see violence inflicted on Max, haha. drat dude. That said! Apparently Max is going to be playing the Rev 2 demo tonight. Does the demo include online play? If so, guess anyone interested will have a chance to body him on stream.

I like to fit in with the spirit of the thread.

# ? May 2, 2017 04:12