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Coohoolin posted:Man Scotland basically invented beef. Says the man from a country where they eat cats and dogs (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/02/dog-cat-meat-farmers-switzerland---legal_n_2395276.html)
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u brexit ukip it posted:Prime Minister Boris Johnson Would probably be better than the current shambles, and would at least be funny.
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Ewan posted:This is a fun thread. guys this thread is amazing but get in before the NEC takes it down!
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May 2, 2017 12:59
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More police are poo poo, good on Diane for taking the bullet and making it about her and not reinforcing the Special Patrol Group. Sort of joking but with tons of crime now being cyber crime just having more police around won't do anything.
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The funniest thing about those tweets is if you watch the video of Merralls' speech, he clearly is a racist. -- https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/859375471468789760 Worst day for Labour so far. No wonder May hasn't bothered campaigning. What is the point of this guy giving this interview? LemonyTang fucked around with this message at 13:09 on May 2, 2017 |
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May 2, 2017 13:06
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Pochoclo posted:When you live in a lovely country you take pride in what you can. It's like looking into the UK 19 years forward. We'll be defending Ginsters lovely pasties 
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May 2, 2017 13:12
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LemonDrizzle posted:Curse those dastardly blairites and their wickedness in refusing to lend Corbyn their esoteric skills such as "basic numeracy" and "working memory". Abbott doesn't interview well. Neither apparently does Dawn Butler. But on one level you can't complain about the lack of competent politicians on the front bench and also applaud the people you think should be there for refusing to take those jobs. LemonyTang posted:Worst day for Labour so far. No wonder May hasn't bothered campaigning. What is the point of this guy giving this interview? Woodcock doesn't want to quit, he wants to be sacked with as much personal publicity as possible.
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May 2, 2017 13:14
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Horses for courses. Fair point, but you can do lovely things to flank while keeping it pink. gently caress me I want bbq now.
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May 2, 2017 13:13
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LemonyTang posted:What is the point of this guy giving this interview? He's actively been trying to sabotage Corbyn's leadership for as long as I can remember.
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May 2, 2017 13:14
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Spuckuk posted:Fair point, but you can do lovely things to flank while keeping it pink. https://youtu.be/amKyA2PrSu4 Also I'm vegetarian and all you are terrible.
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May 2, 2017 13:18
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jabby posted:Abbott doesn't interview well. Neither apparently does Dawn Butler. But on one level you can't complain about the lack of competent politicians on the front bench and also applaud the people you think should be there for refusing to take those jobs. Not sure why not. Corbyn as leader is untenable. This is what happens when a party leader stays in post without the backing of his MPs. Having said that, Abbott isn't going anywhere while Corbyn is in charge whatever other MPs do.
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May 2, 2017 13:23
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Osborne used his first editorial to say the Tory campaign amounts to 'no more than a slogan'. Might take the heat off Abbott slightly. Pissflaps posted:Not sure why not. Corbyn as leader is untenable. This is what happens when a party leader stays in post without the backing of his MPs. This is indeed what happens when the majority of MPs fail to back their leader. The difference between you and me is whether you blame the leader or the MPs. jabby fucked around with this message at 13:25 on May 2, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/mapduliand/status/858990538837684225 Something something gravy train.
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May 2, 2017 13:25
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The most watched video on this YouTube channel has one thousand views.
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May 2, 2017 13:27
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/mapduliand/status/858990538837684225 Wondering how bad UKIP and the Tories are going to be in the next 2 years. Pissflaps posted:The most watched video on this YouTube channel has one thousand views. Because it's probably part of a wider media launch and so will be being shared on facebook and twitter rather than directing people to YouTube.
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May 2, 2017 13:30
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namesake posted:https://youtu.be/amKyA2PrSu4 Sometimes, and bearing mind it's rarely... Sometimes Mike Judge is right.
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May 2, 2017 13:32
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Spuckuk posted:It's like looking into the UK 19 years forward. We'll be defending Ginsters lovely pasties I'm glad that once we leave the EU Cornish pasty will no longer be a protected term. It's shameful that Ginsters is the most common pasty experience for most of the country, they're complete shite.
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May 2, 2017 13:31
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namesake posted:Because it's probably part of a wider media launch and so will be being shared on facebook and twitter rather than directing people to YouTube. Correct. But I'm sure this is yet another thing Pissflaps cannot understand.
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May 2, 2017 13:31
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Kokoro Wish posted:Correct. But I'm sure this is yet another thing Pissflaps cannot understand. Let me guess..... *sound of rustling paper* 80 million views on Facebook?
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May 2, 2017 13:33
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 I know the tabloids like to get their letching in while they're young, but this seems a bit premature even by their standards. Edit: Also hi, I've been away in the woods all weekend with no internet, I am given to understand that the Brexit trainwreck is careening off the rails as expected? Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 13:39 on May 2, 2017 |
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May 2, 2017 13:37
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Regarde Aduck posted:Abbot unable to get her point across? No way. I assume she's good at her job but they need to hide her from ever having to talk to anyone.
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May 2, 2017 13:44
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jabby posted:This is indeed what happens when the majority of MPs fail to back their leader. The difference between you and me is whether you blame the leader or the MPs. Sorry, I don't think anyone is buying this. The other MPs could have been more supportive of the leadership, but it's not their place or their responsibility to take on the role of sock puppets for a leadership that isn't competent. They are just as entitled as Corbyn was to sit on the backbenches and say that while they'll vote with the party whip (wait a minute) and repeat the party speaking points, they don't agree with the leadership and don't want to be bound into cabinet collective responsibility. Meanwhile if you want to lead a party it is not unfair to expect you to be capable of the tasks that entails.
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May 2, 2017 13:45
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Alchenar posted:Sorry, I don't think anyone is buying this. The other MPs could have been more supportive of the leadership, but it's not their place or their responsibility to take on the role of sock puppets for a leadership that isn't competent. I presume 'could have been more supportive' is code for launching a public coup, briefing the hostile press and working constantly behind the scenes to undermine the leadership, something Jeremy Corbyn certainly never did from the back benches. You certainly have a talent for understatement. If the majority of the PLP want to come out and explain on which matters of policy they strongly disagree with Corbyn they are welcome to, and I would accept those as reasons not to join his shadow cabinet. Not believing he'll win an election is decidedly not a reason I agree with though, especially if they are then going to go after as much publicity as possible and essentially try to act as shadow ministers in every way apart from doing anything helpful.
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Alchenar posted:Sorry, I don't think anyone is buying this. The other MPs could have been more supportive of the leadership, but it's not their place or their responsibility to take on the role of sock puppets for a leadership that isn't competent. This would be fine if people like Woodcock hadn't said from the minute that Corbyn was going to win the leadership that they were never going to work or cooperate with him. This is nothing to do with Corbyn's competence (which has been surprisingly good in the campaign) and everything to do with not wanting a left wing Labour party.
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May 2, 2017 13:51
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jabby posted:I presume 'could have been more supportive' is code for launching a public coup, briefing the hostile press and working constantly behind the scenes to undermine the leadership, something Jeremy Corbyn certainly never did from the back benches. What makes you think he could do this even if he wanted to?
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May 2, 2017 13:51
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serious gaylord posted:It's cool Abbot has managed to take a great policy and turn the media narrative into how much of a gently caress up labour are. is it really a great policy? or just a popular one? the link between increased police numbers and reduced crime is dubious. it does just seem like a repeat from 20 years ago of Blair's promises on extra officers then.
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May 2, 2017 13:52
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Pissflaps posted:The most watched video on this YouTube channel has one thousand views. The ones from within the past month are pretty much in the 1k ballpark though.
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May 2, 2017 13:53
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Pissflaps posted:What makes you think he could do this even if he wanted to? For one, interviews with him and John McDonnell where they both refused to say anything negative about the then leadership, despite being heavily baited by the interviewer. Corbyn may have been a serial rebel but he never tried to undermine his party.
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jabby posted:For one, interviews with him and John McDonnell where they both refused to say anything negative about the then leadership, despite being heavily baited by the interviewer. Corbyn may have been a serial rebel but he never tried to undermine his party.
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jabby posted:For one, interviews with him and John McDonnell where they both refused to say anything negative about the then leadership, despite being heavily baited by the interviewer. Corbyn may have been a serial rebel but he never tried to undermine his party. No I meant actually capable of briefing the press and launching a 'coup'.
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Alchenar posted:They are just as entitled as Corbyn was to sit on the backbenches and say that while they'll vote with the party whip (wait a minute) and repeat the party speaking points, they don't agree with the leadership and don't want to be bound into cabinet collective responsibility. Sure, but Corbyn's backbenchery was motivated by a genuine concern for the people and PLP's is motivated by greed. This is like halftrue, but not understanding how neoliberal & centrist voters can come by their opinions honestly is one of the larger rhetorical struggles of the emergent Left jabby posted:I presume 'could have been more supportive' is code for launching a public coup, briefing the hostile press and working constantly behind the scenes to undermine the leadership, something Jeremy Corbyn certainly never did from the back benches. You certainly have a talent for understatement. Blaming PLP for Abbott loving up an interview is not the hill to die on here.
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May 2, 2017 14:01
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Cerv posted:is it really a great policy? or just a popular one? I'd also prefer if nobody else had to use foodbanks, because people being poor and desperate has shown strong links with crime. I think those two might do more to reduce crime than more officers. After that I think the best things we could do to reduce crime in the long view are free high quality preschools, environmental lead reduction, promoting reliable family planning, and trying not to be a safe haven for financial crime. I'm not sure that any of those policies would prove popular outside of the first one, because the populist view seems to be that crime exists because criminals, and only by locking/beating/stringing them up in sufficient numbers can it be reduced.
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jabby posted:For one, interviews with him and John McDonnell where they both refused to say anything negative about the then leadership, despite being heavily baited by the interviewer. Corbyn may have been a serial rebel but he never tried to undermine his party. Do we not count that time in 1988 he announced he was organising a leadership challenge?
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Guavanaut posted:I'd prefer if police didn't have to use foodbanks, because police being poor and desperate has (in international studies at least) shown strong links with corruption. A good post. Poverty is the root cause of many of societies ills. Excessive greed being the other big one.
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