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Tallgeese posted:You may as well have shortened it to this. basically anyone, if they wanted to. The last two presidents have pretty notably not been particularly "qualified" prior to winning office, and it's not like the establishment dems really considered that a minus when it was the easily molded guy on their team cashing in on outsider cred. It's just aristocratic whining from the kind of people appalled that anyone without an ivy league degree is even allowed to run for office, they could get the gently caress over it if they particularly cared about winning versus holding their breath until the world gave in and started fawning over their self-evident wonderfulness A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 2, 2017 |
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Tallgeese posted:You may as well have shortened it to this. If they were smart they would find another fresh face with no real political baggage and bring them up through the political machine like they did with Obama. That requires competent, forward-thinking people though so that's not going to happen.
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May 2, 2017 21:34
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They're going to attempt to cash in on 80s nostalgia and run dukakis
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May 2, 2017 21:37
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:basically anyone, if they wanted to. The last two presidents have pretty notably not been particularly "qualified" prior to winning office, and it's not like the establishment dems really considered that a minus when it was the easily molded guy on their team cashing in on outsider cred. It's just aristocratic whining from the kind of people appalled that anyone without an ivy league degree is even allowed to run for office, they could get the gently caress over it if they particularly cared about winning versus holding their breath until the world gave in and started fawning over their self-evident wonderfulness But if they hold their breath that long they won't be able to huff their own farts.
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May 2, 2017 21:39
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:basically anyone, if they wanted to. They don't, they want assembly line Ivy Leaguers.
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May 2, 2017 21:41
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phasmid posted:But if they hold their breath that long they won't be able to huff their own farts. if the hillarymen were all that hot at distinguishing 'their problem' from 'anyone else's problem' the world would be a very different place right now Tallgeese posted:They don't, they want assembly line Ivy Leaguers. Zuckerberg/Yglesias 2020
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May 2, 2017 21:43
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It's gonna be Tom Hanks
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May 2, 2017 21:43
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You know, I'm trying to imagine a Zuckerberg 2020 run and am not succeeding. How would that even work?
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May 2, 2017 21:50
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Zuckerberg is a huge piece of poo poo but does not belong in politics
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May 2, 2017 21:51
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Blue Train posted:Zuckerberg is a huge piece of poo poo So he'd make a good national dem candidate for something like the presidency
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May 2, 2017 21:55
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May 2, 2017 21:57
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Blue Train posted:Zuckerberg is a huge piece of poo poo but does not belong in politics my man, think of the ideas he'll have about the NSA
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May 2, 2017 21:56
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Hasn't Zuck been flying around doing photo-op stuff like working on an assembly line lately? That's exactly the kind of bullshit you do when you are trying to build a "man of the people" image to go into politics.
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May 2, 2017 21:59
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phasmid posted:It really does seem like she can't leave things alone. I can't tell if it's her flunkies propping her up like a downed bareknuckle boxer or if it's her own overweening desire to be prez no matter what. psychologically Hillary has to do this. otherwise it would require her to have some sort of introspection, and engague with her many flaws and failings. i think that might drive a person to suicide; so for her mental health she will live in a delusion
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May 2, 2017 21:59
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The_Franz posted:Hasn't Zuck been flying around doing photo-op stuff like working on an assembly line lately? That's exactly the kind of bullshit you do when you are trying to build a "man of the people" image to go into politics. There was an article about him talking to shareholders about how he could maintain control of the company but also take two years to do political poo poo, so house presumably. It's horseshit
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The_Franz posted:Hasn't Zuck been flying around doing photo-op stuff like working on an assembly line lately? That's exactly the kind of bullshit you do when you are trying to build a "man of the people" image to go into politics. He had a highly publicized dinner with a trump voter in ohio  if the idiot fucker actually tries to run im hoping for a good picture of him in a hard hat while wearing these that is even more embarrassing than the mike dukakis tank picture
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May 2, 2017 22:04
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the DNC saw Trump win and think "we need a populist billionaire" without understanding why a populist businessman works on the right, but not the left a successful leftist populist would have to be either a grassroots politician like Bernie or a charismatic blue collar guy like a union leader which is why they'll run a dude like Zuck and get destroyed the flaming duck memes will be  though
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May 2, 2017 22:09
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 "DAT RUSSIAN WIKILEAKS WHY I LOST!  "https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/859507546784059392 Hillary, please go in your den and stay there.
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May 2, 2017 22:13
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VikingSkull posted:the DNC ... the left lol
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May 2, 2017 22:15
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Oh these various thing pointing out the improprieties of myself and my party switched voters opinions of me. gently caress off
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May 2, 2017 22:15
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in the strictest sense she's right that without comey and wikileaks she wins but that's like the pats losing to the jaguars and blaming it on the refs loving up a late call. it shouldn't have been close enough to matter.
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May 2, 2017 22:15
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i would have won if it was not for my cheating and immoral behaviour becoming public! lmao
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May 2, 2017 22:16
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Do it ironically posted:i would have won if it was not for my cheating and immoral behaviour becoming public! It's goddamn ridiculous, and people fall for it then go and talk poo poo about trump voters falling for his lies, lol
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May 2, 2017 22:19
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I think they were about even on having their dirty laundry aired.
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May 2, 2017 22:17
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Do it ironically posted:i would have won if it was not for my cheating and immoral behaviour becoming public! She's acting like a victim when she had the entire media hiding the content in those emails in favor reporting on Trump's tweets 24/7.
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May 2, 2017 22:19
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I mean I get this when it comes up but that's American politics at the moment until a serious leftist alternative becomes viable the DNC is the left in the US and there's no getting around that
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May 2, 2017 22:19
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Rutibex posted:psychologically Hillary has to do this. otherwise it would require her to have some sort of introspection, and engague with her many flaws and failings. i think that might drive a person to suicide; so for her mental health she will live in a delusion In response to this, we should come up with something to sink her in the primaries. A twist on "it's her turn" maybe? Something like #skipclinton. She's just never gonna shut up though. No matter what, she's going to insist on being Miss Democracy, even though the reason she hates Wikileaks in the first place is that they leaked the stole cables.
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May 2, 2017 22:20
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that's the nuttiest thing about us. you'll have conservatives crying about the commie dems when the democrats now are just 60s republicans (maybe even further right honestly).
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May 2, 2017 22:22
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Alienwarehouse posted:She's acting like a victim when she had the entire media hiding the content in those emails in favor reporting on Trump's tweets 24/7. One of the networks, CNN I think, said on air that it was illegal to view them
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May 2, 2017 22:21
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new phone who dis posted:She's going to run again. She thinks she has it all figured out. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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May 2, 2017 22:23
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Blue Train posted:One of the networks, CNN I think, said on air that it was illegal to view them lol following orders like good democrats.
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May 2, 2017 22:25
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VikingSkull posted:I mean I get this when it comes up but that's American politics at the moment I get that y'all got nowhere else to go but the people who'd get amped for the Democratic policy package, regardless of who its mascot of the year is, are overwhelmingly people who'd find Lena Dunham a more inspirational figure than some union guy, and recognizing that isn't why the party lost. Progressive democrats are less politically influential than libertarians, and couldn't even take the nomination in the most favorable circumstances the party will ever see for a left populist speaking truth to power. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 2, 2017 |
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May 2, 2017 22:23
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if sanders had the campaign apparatus he had by the end from the get-go he would've beat hillary. you gotta remember he kinda did it as a protest run and had the most bare bones poo poo and no name recognition and still got that close. and the superdelegates should've done their job (which was to ensure the more likely general election victor gets the nomination, the vote total be damned) and picked him.
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May 2, 2017 22:28
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VikingSkull posted:I mean I get this when it comes up but that's American politics at the moment I want you to be enslaved to a major corporation vs I want you to be enslaved to a major corporation regardless of your gender, religion or ethnicity!
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May 2, 2017 22:30
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Groovelord Neato posted:if sanders had the campaign apparatus he had by the end from the get-go he would've beat hillary. you gotta remember he kinda did it as a protest run and had the most bare bones poo poo and no name recognition and still got that close. this is the thing, America is actually ready for a progressive leftist, they just want it without the idpol garbage Nuclearmonkee posted:I want you to be enslaved to a major corporation vs I want you to be enslaved to a major corporation regardless of your gender, religion or ethnicity! well I mean I guess this is what I get for loving cyberpunk as a genre
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May 2, 2017 22:31
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idpol is fine but it has to be more than performative (unless when you say "idpol" you mean what hillary et al do which is just i don't believe this and won't make a difference but it makes me sound good if i pretend to agree). if you accept neoliberalism you're saying gently caress everyone who isn't a well-off white person.
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May 2, 2017 22:33
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Can a mod please change the title of this thread to: Hillary Clinton 2020 discussion thread for GBS Thank you.
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May 2, 2017 22:36
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Groovelord Neato posted:idpol is fine but it has to be more than performative (unless when you say "idpol" you mean what hillary et al do which is just i don't believe this and won't make a difference but it makes me sound good if i pretend to agree). if you accept neoliberalism you're saying gently caress everyone who isn't a well-off white person. the idpol ideology will only work if it means championing equality for everyone that includes such problematic things as recognizing conservative Christians have a "legitimate" beef with things like abortion and gay marriage
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