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I want to like it, but it feels more like the Marvel Cinematic Universe than Stephen King. That said, had the MCU been around when SK was writing the books, we might've had Hulks instead of sneeches, so maybe it's not too far off.
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To be fair, the MCU has been generally excellent. Now had you said it looked or felt like the DC movies, that'd be another story.
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# ? May 3, 2017 15:49 |
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Does Roland not ever actually wear a cowboy hat in the books? I thought he did.
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# ? May 3, 2017 15:53 |
Basebf555 posted:Does Roland not ever actually wear a cowboy hat in the books? I thought he did. It's been a while since I read the books, but I'm pretty sure he does. Also I tried to do a quick look at the Kindle version of the first book to see if it's mentioned and all you can see is the damned introduction, haha.
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# ? May 3, 2017 16:03 |
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Wow, that looked awful.
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# ? May 3, 2017 16:40 |
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Canuckistan posted:Yeah, I didn't really get warm fuzzies from the trailer. What's the shoutout to Pennywise?
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# ? May 3, 2017 17:04 |
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RCarr posted:What's the shoutout to Pennywise? Yeah, I caught the Overlook, but I've watched a few times looking for Pennywise and haven't seen anything. Also this comes out the Friday before my birthday, so, hooray!
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# ? May 3, 2017 17:10 |
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90 seconds in. Looks like a ruined carnival ride with a PENNYWISE sign and a statue hand holding balloons.
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# ? May 3, 2017 17:12 |
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I wasn't super impressed, but I'm going to stay optimistic. They laid the exposition on pretty thick, but maybe they had to. It's an odd mythos. Also lots of OMG SO BADASS shooty stuff, but that sells tickets. I'm not as hyped as I am for It.
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# ? May 3, 2017 17:24 |
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April posted:I want to like it, but it feels more like the Marvel Cinematic Universe than Stephen King. I mean, that's exactly what they're going for. That said, it doesn't look like a MCU movie*, in that it has strong art direction, a vibrant color palette, interesting cinematography, and that's just in the trailer. (*Excluding Guardians of the Galaxy 1 & 2 and Doctor Strange, which are the exceptions.)
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# ? May 3, 2017 17:36 |
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Roland is at least using six shooters
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# ? May 3, 2017 18:10 |
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I kinda liked it. Just dont redo the ending of the books for sure.
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# ? May 3, 2017 20:25 |
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That looked like the kind of movie that will best be reviewed with a shrug of the shoulders and saying it was alright
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# ? May 3, 2017 20:40 |
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I’m probably in the minority, but Roland’s magical bullet-juggling gun-fu looked basically the way that I imagined it when I read The Gunslinger. And I'm disappointed that, although there were some shots of deserts, there didn't seem to be an apotheosis of all deserts anywhere in that trailer.
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# ? May 3, 2017 20:44 |
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It's going to be Harry Potter: the first two movies being okay/liked enough, the third will be best, and then the rest of the series will imitate the third, all while producers stretch them into as many movies as possible.
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# ? May 3, 2017 20:46 |
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I was kinda hoping for a one off movie to close it all out, they already have a tv show going apparently
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Blastedhellscape posted:I’m probably in the minority, but Roland’s magical bullet-juggling gun-fu looked basically the way that I imagined it when I read The Gunslinger. And I'm disappointed that, although there were some shots of deserts, there didn't seem to be an apotheosis of all deserts anywhere in that trailer. It looked really corny to me. I always just imagined him having incredibly fast hands, not literally throwing clips into the air, and swinging his guns around to catch them.
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# ? May 3, 2017 21:00 |
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Gun nerd post: I always pictured them as basically being oversized Blackhawks/Colt SAA's which have cylinders that don't roll out. I liked the shot of him doing a fast reload into the cylinder, but swinging them around and catching them looks really awful.
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# ? May 3, 2017 21:06 |
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its a bit OTT sure. I do like EWs coverage on pretty boy MIB though quote:The Gunslinger loathes Walter, blaming him for the loss of everything he has ever known or cared about, but McConaughey says The Man in Black doesn’t return the hard feelings. http://ew.com/article/2016/07/14/dark-tower-matthew-mcconaughey-the-man-in-black/ he has the feel i think.
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# ? May 3, 2017 21:18 |
Oh my Lordy if this is how dogshit they're going from the good Dark Tower books imagine how retarded it's gonna be when they're working off of psychic HONGRY fictive headmates, 19 chassits commala, Ol' Man Sneetches and loving alien laughter spiders.
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# ? May 3, 2017 22:52 |
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So I only read the first half of the first book but I remember the gunslinger murdering a town of people clutching crosses including an innocent woman who being held as a hostage and the kid being sent to the other world after being killed by a car This seems... different from what I remember
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# ? May 3, 2017 23:27 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:So I only read the first half of the first book but I remember the gunslinger murdering a town of people clutching crosses including an innocent woman who being held as a hostage and the kid being sent to the other world after being killed by a car apparently, its the next cycle after the series proper. i really dont know how i feel about that, or the sparkle guns.
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# ? May 3, 2017 23:32 |
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Canuckistan posted:90 seconds in. Looks like a ruined carnival ride with a PENNYWISE sign and a statue hand holding balloons. Nice.
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# ? May 4, 2017 00:11 |
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I never read the Dark Tower books and never really had any interest. I have to say that the trailer doesn't make me want to change my mind. That whole thing looked ridiculous. Like a make believe game that 9 year old kids would play outside and make up as they go along. I guess I've always preferred King when he's at least partially grounded and the supernatural/monster/dimension travel stuff is there only to show how it effects regular people leading regular lives. It's hard to explain but I think it has something to do with identification and suspension of disbelief.
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# ? May 4, 2017 01:14 |
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Well they announced a new Firestarter film, so maybe that will be good
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BiggerBoat posted:I never read the Dark Tower books and never really had any interest. I have to say that the trailer doesn't make me want to change my mind. That whole thing looked ridiculous. Like a make believe game that 9 year old kids would play outside and make up as they go along. Well, he did start writing it when he was a teenager
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# ? May 4, 2017 01:30 |
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I read the first few Dark Tower books when I was like 14 years old, and I'd never really encountered multiverses and meta-hero stuff before - so the platonic ideal of this series (well, the first few books) will always be untouchably "14 year old Mega Rad" in my head. They're going to have to compromise on a lot of that stuff to make a marketable (or even watchable) summer movie. I just hope it captures some of that sense of a wider universe (within universes) and mid-world world building, without getting TOO schlocky. Like, please do the Roland coming of age arthurian callout of Cort in a cool way, please. I don't know. I feel like I'm bound to be disappointed. I just hope they take some risks and make it interesting, as well as actiony fun.
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Soul Glo posted:Well, he did start writing it when he was a teenager That's part of why I like book one so much on its own - it's very clearly some really talented and creative college kid's weird fantasy one-off. Like King had obviously just read some Arthurian legend stuff, watched a bunch of Clint Eastwood westerns and read some basic philosophy for the first time ever. It all just works and the next few books don't go off the rails (mad riddle trains aside lol) too far.
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# ? May 4, 2017 01:43 |
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deoju posted:I wasn't super impressed, but I'm going to stay optimistic. They laid the exposition on pretty thick, but maybe they had to. It's an odd mythos. Also lots of OMG SO BADASS shooty stuff, but that sells tickets. When I read about the trailer this was pretty much how I felt about the description. After actually watching it, I'll revise to say that I'm cautiously optimistic about the movie, but still more excited for It. The movie definitely seems a little more actiony than I would have liked. Roland always seemed more like a dirty fighter than a magical dude that takes on hordes of gun wielding goons. I guess you could say that the whole Eddie shoot out with Balazar was a straight up fight, but even that was more of an ambush than a duel. Except for the later Eddie shoot out at the gas station, there really wasn't much of a shoot out with a bunch of goons kind of situation, and even then Roland got out by being devious. So, basically, I don't really know what to think about the more actiony scenes, but am cautiously optimistic. Idris, as I expected, makes an absolutely boss Roland. Blastedhellscape posted:I’m probably in the minority, but Roland’s magical bullet-juggling gun-fu looked basically the way that I imagined it when I read The Gunslinger. I don't know about that. I guess there was never a real detailed description of his shooting, but to me he always seemed to be more of a special ops soldier instead of an X-man. He trained and trained and trained until everything basically became muscle memory. I always pictured his guns as not having roll-out cylinders. In fact, I'm pretty sure there are multiple mentions of him burning the pads of his fingers while reloading. Oh well, I'm still excited to see how it comes out! *edit* Admiral Bosch posted:Gun nerd post: I always pictured them as basically being oversized Blackhawks/Colt SAA's which have cylinders that don't roll out. I liked the shot of him doing a fast reload into the cylinder, but swinging them around and catching them looks really awful. This is exactly how I feel. USMC_Karl fucked around with this message at 02:41 on May 4, 2017 |
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Was The Overlook just that old dilapidated building in the mountains?
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# ? May 4, 2017 03:29 |
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Rolo posted:Was The Overlook just that old dilapidated building in the mountains?
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# ? May 4, 2017 03:31 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:So I only read the first half of the first book but I remember the gunslinger murdering a town of people clutching crosses including an innocent woman who being held as a hostage and the kid being sent to the other world after being killed by a car They weren't clutching crosses, they were trying to murder him in a religious fervor. The innocent woman was there in the original, in the revision she begged to be killed. Roland never killed Jake in the book, but he didn't save him either. BiggerBoat posted:I never read the Dark Tower books and never really had any interest. I'm currently rereading The Drawing of the Three for the first time in 20+ years and loving it; the first four books are excellent (and the first is a real departure from King's normal style), but stop there. Really what this trailer makes me hungry for is a proper The Stand trilogy/miniseries with McConaughey-Flagg
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I wonder if the gun-fu aspect of the reload is because the cinematic version of what he does in the books wouldn't be much more that something done by, say, Jason Bourne and his ilk, so they had to pump it up to 11 to get the point across.
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BiggerBoat posted:I never read the Dark Tower books and never really had any interest. I have to say that the trailer doesn't make me want to change my mind. That whole thing looked ridiculous. Like a make believe game that 9 year old kids would play outside and make up as they go along. The Gunslinger was the first King novel that I ever read, and for some weird reason it’s still my favorite. Maybe that’s just my being big fantasy fan showing though. There was just something really magical and unique about a dark fantasy, post-apocalyptic, western story where the characters walk between multiple worlds on a big, dream-world-exploring quest. As a concept, the Dark Tower novels are really interesting and evocative. You’ve got this sort of Lovecraftian Dreamlands thing going on, a fantasy/western mashup, and this epic sense of a spiritual journey for a growing cast of characters, traveling the wastelands. In practice…I lost interest somewhere around the fourth book and just never read the rest. Also, it didn’t help that the second book was kind of plodding and had a lot of meh moments. For some reason the Drawing of the Three just felt like a big letdown after the furious rush of The Gunslinger, although The Wastelands is totally awesome and makes up for it. But just as a standalone book, I'll always love The Gunslinger (I think it was the revised version that I read, which might also put me in the minority. I'm not sure though.)
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navyjack posted:I wonder if the gun-fu aspect of the reload is because the cinematic version of what he does in the books wouldn't be much more that something done by, say, Jason Bourne and his ilk, so they had to pump it up to 11 to get the point across. Watching again, he does more what I imagined from the book at 1:02 and again at 2:02. Also, watching again, I loving hate Jake and hope he dies like in the book.
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navyjack posted:Watching again, he does more what I imagined from the book at 1:02 and again at 2:02. Multiple times?
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syscall girl posted:Multiple times? As often as it takes.
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# ? May 4, 2017 06:25 |
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Franchescanado posted:Well they announced a new Firestarter film, so maybe that will be good The best thing about the original film was the soundtrack so there's only room for improvement in a remake.
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navyjack posted:I wonder if the gun-fu aspect of the reload is because the cinematic version of what he does in the books wouldn't be much more that something done by, say, Jason Bourne and his ilk, so they had to pump it up to 11 to get the point across. It also makes some sense with that bit from McConahey in the EW interview someone posted, where Walter is pumping roland up with magic to keep him in the game when someone else is going to take him out. Kind of like the opposite of when he made his gun catch on his belt in book 4.
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Most of the flashier touches I'm willing to forgive as part of the transition to film. I wouldn't say I'm confident in the quality in the movie (and even less so in the quality of the franchise as a whole), but it looks like we're getting a pair of solid central performances strung together with fanservice. There are worse fates. And if it follows the HP pattern we get at least one really good movie based one of the really good books, which is nice. Edit: compared to It, which looks like a no-qualifiers good horror movie even if it is only half the book Rangpur fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 4, 2017 |
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