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"Unlike our constituents who need health care." Fuckers.
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May 4, 2017 00:31
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Because it's DOA in the senate
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May 4, 2017 00:31
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Oh wouldn't it be sooo loving sweet if they hold the vote only for it to fail. Like maybe if a couple Lean Yes' get visited by the Ghost of Christmas Future tonight or something and gently caress up the whip count.
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May 4, 2017 01:16
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It's going to be funny if this gets brought to a vote and fails, because in addition to embarrassing themselves it means a whole bunch of Rs in contestable seats just branded themselves with a scarlet Yes for nothing. God I hope they don't pass this though.
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May 4, 2017 01:30
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This is the kind of poo poo someone says right before they take a drink of cyanide laced Kool-Aid. He knows it is dead and is just bracing those few blissful moment of celebration.
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May 4, 2017 01:34
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Hastings posted:This is the kind of poo poo someone says right before they take a drink of cyanide laced Kool-Aid. He knows it is dead and is just bracing those few blissful moment of celebration. No they're going to pass it tomorrow.
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May 4, 2017 01:56
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Ogmius815 posted:No they're going to pass it tomorrow. I'm not entirely sure Paul Ryan knows whether they will pass it tomorrow.
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May 4, 2017 02:00
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/859931604554219520 Probably HFC.
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May 4, 2017 02:02
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How are premiums going to go down next year? The health insurance industry is losing $1 trillion from government subsidies alone if they repeal the ACA. I don't see how this chaos is going to do anything but give insurers an excuse to raise premiums.
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May 4, 2017 02:30
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clockworkjoe posted:How are premiums going to go down next year? The health insurance industry is losing $1 trillion from government subsidies alone if they repeal the ACA. I don't see how this chaos is going to do anything but give insurers an excuse to raise premiums. health insurers will be allowed to sell plans that cover nothing for $50/month
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May 4, 2017 02:33
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hobbesmaster posted:health insurers will be allowed to sell plans that cover nothing for $50/month Assuming the individual market survives the disruption. AFAIK there are no provisions to cover insurer losses like what ACA had in the beginning.
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May 4, 2017 02:38
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https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/859933959244963840 Slavitt has been a bit hyperbolic in the last month or so, but also knows his poo poo. If he's correct, the premise of the thread is that Upton's $8b for those with preexisting conditions is only available to states who cut essential benefits requirements AND doesn't actually have to go towards the coverage of those who have preexisting conditions.
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May 4, 2017 03:04
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Paracaidas posted:https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/859933959244963840 lol its literally a bribe to throw people with pre-existing conditions off insurance, not help for them i didn't even consider it might be that evil
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May 4, 2017 03:11
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Wait are they trying to make this effective immediately? Isn't the usual MO to put these kind of things in effect after the midterm elections and hope shot works out before the next election?
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May 4, 2017 03:29
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So I guess the idea is, like no-strings block grants, Republican states will just use the money for tax cuts?
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May 4, 2017 03:32
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The only people with lower premiums will be the small group of men older than 26, but below 35ish, who don't receive employer provided coverage, are in decent health, and aren't in a position to start a family in the next few years. Unfortunately for the GOP, they are more likely to be posting in 4chan or Reddit than voting.
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May 4, 2017 03:52
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TyrantWD posted:The only people with lower premiums will be the small group of men older than 26, but below 35ish, who don't receive employer provided coverage, are in decent health, and aren't in a position to start a family in the next few years. Unfortunately for the GOP, they are more likely to be posting in 4chan or Reddit than voting. True. Even the somewhat 'protected' groups (old folks on Medicare, veterans) are going to feel the premium crunch because they, you know, have relatives and friends and stuff
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May 4, 2017 04:06
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It astounds me that this bill might pass. No one except GOP lawmakers actually like this thing and the reason they probably like it is they don't have to live with the odious provisions in it. These people are evil.
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May 4, 2017 13:27
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They kinda spun up this effort a little more quickly and managed to keep it a little more under the radar and didn't give everyone weeks to find out it was terrible and tear it apart; that probably helped. I hope any R in a vulnerable district who votes for this gets loving atomized come election time.
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May 4, 2017 13:35
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Monkey Fracas posted:They kinda spun up this effort a little more quickly and managed to keep it a little more under the radar and didn't give everyone weeks to find out it was terrible and tear it apart; that probably helped. Dems better remember this poo poo when the attack ads roll out. This is pure unfiltered gently caress you got mine-ism, esp. with the amendment that lets GOP keep ACA caliber insurance
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May 4, 2017 13:39
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I always thought that one of the universal truths in American politics is that you never piss off the AARP. It doesn't seem very smart to push forward on healthcare legislation that is being sharply denounced by an interest group representing 40 million of the most reliable voters in the country. But hey, what do I know, I ain't a wonky guy like Paul Ryan
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May 4, 2017 13:42
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sharkbomb posted:I always thought that one of the universal truths in American politics is that you never piss off the AARP. The universal truth is GOP politicians want more money for corporate interests and themselves, and i guess we're just at the point that greed is more important. Maybe want to go out with a bang that'll take 30 years to fix?
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May 4, 2017 13:48
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Sloober posted:Dems better remember this poo poo when the attack ads roll out. This is pure unfiltered gently caress you got mine-ism, esp. with the amendment that lets GOP keep ACA caliber insurance https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/860116019263787008
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May 4, 2017 14:01
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Not just the DSCC: https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/860121566818029568
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May 4, 2017 14:32
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From the WSJ, no less: https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/860085668403441665 They better have gotten their whip count confirmed with blood oaths, because yiiiikes.
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May 4, 2017 14:35
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It's really hard to describe how evil this bill is in a way that doesn't sound like parody.
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May 4, 2017 14:41
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's really hard to describe how evil this bill is in a way that doesn't sound like parody. I never thought the government would run as a real opposition to The Onion, but here we are
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May 4, 2017 14:41
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Sloober posted:I never thought the government would run as a real opposition to The Onion, but here we are Except it's literally illegal to laugh.
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May 4, 2017 14:42
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DaveWoo posted:Not just the DSCC: Paul Ryan has a thing for pissing off the AARP. I don't think anyone ever told him how important olds are to his party.
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May 4, 2017 14:56
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The AARP has long been considered a liberal organization thanks to Fox News. Conservative boomers don't give a gently caress.
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May 4, 2017 14:58
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All the reporters on this beat worth following seem pretty confident that it will pass. The crazies are gonna be pretty emboldened moving forward.
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May 4, 2017 15:12
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It's really hard to describe how evil this bill is in a way that doesn't sound like parody. It's kind of like 2012 when pollsters were describing the Ryan budget and people were refusing to believe someone would actually suggest such things.
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May 4, 2017 15:11
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parallelodad posted:The AARP has long been considered a liberal organization thanks to Fox News. Conservative boomers don't give a gently caress. http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=11545 As of 2012, Favorability is 81/19 with the overall population and 68/32 for conservatives.
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May 4, 2017 15:15
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Paracaidas posted:From the WSJ, no less: this isn't even intentional i don't think, this is just an accident because they're ramming it through before anyone can figure out what it does, including them
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May 4, 2017 15:19
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duz posted:It's kind of like 2012 when pollsters were describing the Ryan budget and people were refusing to believe someone would actually suggest such things. Yeah, exactly. It's even most of the same proposals (block granting Medicaid, etc.). Brains can't accept it.
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May 4, 2017 15:23
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Paracaidas posted:From the WSJ, no less: My wife just got a great job with great benefits so we won't need to use the ACA anymore. It's good to see the GOP trying to gently caress over everyone right now. I hope this gets buried in the senate. I'm to a point where I don't have the energy anymore trying to explain to friends and family why the GOP does not care about them.
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May 4, 2017 15:26
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Preliminary procedural vote occurring now because voice vote apparently wasn't good enough. No (R) defections so far in bringing the bill to a vote with 170 (R) votes still to be counted. Again, this is a preliminary vote to bring us closer to the final vote on the question.
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May 4, 2017 15:39
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Paracaidas posted:http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=11545 Was sorting my parent's mail for them while they were away and came across a mailer from these assholes marketing themselves as "a conservative alternative to the AARP". If we're going by Dante's Inferno rules these people would land somewhere in the Eighth Circle I think
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