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Radish posted:What's the good Sonya build/strategy nowadays? All Auto-Attacks, All The Time + Whirlwind Healing talent.
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May 4, 2017 18:42
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Is she focusing on laning and bullying people out of xp range?
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May 4, 2017 18:46
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Radish posted:Is she focusing on laning and bullying people out of xp range? Lane bully with extremely strong sustain and able to hit back lines quickly and hard during team fights. She can be a very strong initiator if the the other team doesn't have a lot of hard CC. Generally, she is very good for getting to the squishies in the back and making them run away while their warrior tries to peel you.
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May 4, 2017 18:46
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Cool thanks!
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May 4, 2017 18:48
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yes posted:Yeah you're just wrong. Haunt wins games Well sort of like gust, there is a bar and if you don't get over it then gust/haunt can effectively just screw up everyone else's skills. As much as I'd rather have a decent gust/haunt, if the player is going to fire off ults that just screw up our teamfight, I'd rather them take the less powerful damage ult that doesn't move people out of mosh/starfall/blizzard/ignite/whatever.
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May 4, 2017 18:50
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yes posted:Yeah you're just wrong. Haunt wins games Aw thanks. The other goons can attest I'm not really that good though. 
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May 4, 2017 18:50
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Radish posted:Cool thanks! To win as Sonya: 1) Bully the lane and solo soak as much as you can. 2) Go to objectives and either initiate or let someone else initiate and you spear in and whirwhind through people towards the healer/low mobility casters. 3) Go back to 1 4) Take a healer and duo a boss when you have a numbers advantage 5) Don't spear yourself into bad situations and you should probably not die unless your whole team is going down anyway.
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May 4, 2017 18:53
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Reverend Dr posted:Well sort of like gust, there is a bar and if you don't get over it then gust/haunt can effectively just screw up everyone else's skills. As much as I'd rather have a decent gust/haunt, if the player is going to fire off ults that just screw up our teamfight, I'd rather them take the less powerful damage ult that doesn't move people out of mosh/starfall/blizzard/ignite/whatever. I see your point but Horrify's double duty as an escape more than makes up for this Gul'dan is my most played hero and apart from weird niche situations (that beginner/intermediate players wouldn't be able to identify) you really should take Horrify nearly 100% of the time
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May 4, 2017 18:57
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Is Berserker rage or Leap the better one? I usually take rage because its cool to yell real loud and then hit people harder.
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May 4, 2017 18:56
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:To win as Sonya: One to add and it really should go between 3 & 4, which is MERC, Sonya can solo mercs at will; not the fastest but you lose no hp/mp. Sonya is all about landing your Q's and sustain (which is why the current meta has you talent for AA heal, rage activated heal, etc.), if you're ever hitting B you probably did it wrong. She's like Guldan insofar as if you're over 20% and not engaged in a teamfight, you should be able to bring yourself back to full pretty quickly; like Gul'dan, you leverage this sustain by always creating value, e.g. soaking, mercing, etc. never go home
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May 4, 2017 19:00
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B-rage gives you a lot more damage but sometimes Leap is better for securing a kill if you can rely on your teammates to dive in with you
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May 4, 2017 18:59
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Also dive is a more fun ability even if it's not ideal. Going aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAH!!!! Then leaping into the air and slamming down on someone is great
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May 4, 2017 19:04
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Any tips for efficiently microing the vikings? I just bought these fuckers and I love unorthodox heroes. I get that I should use shift to give them a bunch of instructions. Is it okay to have some of them idle in a bush sometimes or what? Really keeping them all up all the time seems pretty hard. Which one is the most important?
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May 4, 2017 19:15
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thechalkoutline posted:I see your point but Horrify's double duty as an escape more than makes up for this No my point is that when the player on Guldan is poo poo piss bad, it is one of those niche situations.
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May 4, 2017 19:17
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Shibawanko posted:Any tips for efficiently microing the vikings? I just bought these fuckers and I love unorthodox heroes. I've seen Grubby do some really solid high level vikings play so maybe check out his youtube for some videos. This doesn't directly answer your question but his commentary + tips are usually pretty good I think.
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May 4, 2017 19:17
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By the way, I can't log into the EU servers. Anyone else have this?
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May 4, 2017 19:18
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Shibawanko posted:By the way, I can't log into the EU servers. Anyone else have this? Check to make sure you're patched, maybe? They pushed 25.2 live for a fix on the US servers a bit ago.
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May 4, 2017 19:20
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Shibawanko posted:Any tips for efficiently microing the vikings? I just bought these fuckers and I love unorthodox heroes. I believe you can use ctrl+# to save your current camera position and then # to snap to it so you can ctrl+1 top lane, ctrl+2 mid, ctrl+3 bottom then 1/2/3 easily to view lanes. Idling in a bush is sometimes the only way to get experience (your only job as a viking before level 10) since its so easy to bully a viking out of a lane. Your job is to get xp from waves, anything on top of that is gravy. So as long as you have a viking alive in each lane that the rest of your team isn't pushing in, you are doing your job. Lots of players don't get how they work though and sit in your lane anyway, try to nicely say that you got the lane covered and they can go merc or teamfight or whatever.
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May 4, 2017 19:33
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Shibawanko posted:By the way, I can't log into the EU servers. Anyone else have this? Battle.net client says there are issues with the login servers right now. Orthodox Rabbit posted:Is Berserker rage or Leap the better one? I usually take rage because its cool to yell real loud and then hit people harder. Rage is the better ult 80% of the time, but Leap can be really good as a long-range stun in a comp built around it. BrianBoitano posted:Tassadar Good points.  Also good points on all the other answers. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 19:34
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Shibawanko posted:Any tips for efficiently microing the vikings? I just bought these fuckers and I love unorthodox heroes. There was a huge goon-authored guide to TLV from last year, does anyone still have it?
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May 4, 2017 19:37
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Reverend Dr posted:No my point is that when the player on Guldan is poo poo piss bad, it is one of those niche situations. No, I totally get what you're saying. But I said haunt specifically, which is the level 20 upgrade to horrify. If you land a 3 second fear with a 25% increased damage on anyone post-20 they're probably dead. If you land it on all 5 you win the game.
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May 4, 2017 19:36
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And that point is wrong anyhow, RoD actually requires not only good positioning, but a good understanding of where to do it from depending on the map, which is the case with all the channeled ults like Nazeebo's spirit. On top of that baddies need the extra escape
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May 4, 2017 19:41
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Shibawanko posted:Any tips for efficiently microing the vikings? I just bought these fuckers and I love unorthodox heroes. Not even joking: Starcraft original is free from Blizzard right now. I played ~20 1v1 games with names like "1v1 noob only plz" and really learned a lot about map awareness and control groups. It took until basically game 20 for it to really click with me, however. Also, nostalgia. Nice game to play if you're tilting in HotS and want to cool off. Mind over Matter posted:Aw thanks. The other goons can attest I'm not really that good though. Took me a minute.
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May 4, 2017 19:48
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Well now I'm just confused. When IS Rain of Destruction worth taking over Horrify? What are these edge cases?
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May 4, 2017 19:48
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 Something's fucky. e: higher quality: https://gifs.com/gif/grubby-heroes-of-the-storm-2-0-genji-aegis-for-the-ages-cursed-hollow-98wZ3P Auriel gets energy even though Genji is "protected." And no, she didn't take "Empathic Link" at 7. e: people on Reddit are saying that "damage dealt" isn't prevented by Protected, which makes sense with Medivh's reabsorption FoW talent. It still keeps track. Still seems odd. BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 19:49
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SKULL.GIF posted:There was a huge goon-authored guide to TLV from last year, does anyone still have it? Olaf the Stout's: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3723892&pagenumber=605&perpage=40#post456414134 John Dyne's: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3723892&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=664#post457525026 I have had those two posts bookmarked for a while, they're in the last thread so they won't last forever but there you go.
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May 4, 2017 19:50
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Ciaphas posted:Well now I'm just confused. When IS Rain of Destruction worth taking over Horrify? What are these edge cases? Never and there aren't any, is the point.
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May 4, 2017 19:51
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BrianBoitano posted:
She technically damaged Li Ming with the reflect. Also, protect doesn't technically ignore the damage, it absorbs. For all intents and purposes that damage was dealt to the target hero.
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May 4, 2017 19:58
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Mind over Matter posted:Olaf the Stout's: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3723892&pagenumber=605&perpage=40#post456414134 Thank you for saving these.
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May 4, 2017 20:47
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I don't want to play Braxxis Holdout anymore Blizz
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May 4, 2017 20:49
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Macaluso posted:I don't want to play Braxxis Holdout anymore Blizz  I think I'd even prefer Hanamura over it
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May 4, 2017 20:54
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at least it's not 4head junction
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May 4, 2017 20:54
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Macaluso posted:I don't want to play Braxxis Holdout anymore Blizz I actually liked Hanamura a lot. It's a really crazy map with a completely different flow of action than most maps. I hate Braxis so much. It's such a horrible map.
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May 4, 2017 20:59
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Braxis is still the best 2-lane map. Hanamura is the second best. I actually like it as well, though people are clearly still learning it. If after this we get a map rotation with the other set as the pool, I'm going to be miserable for a while.
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May 4, 2017 20:59
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I don't think there's anything wrong with Braxis other than it being a little too similar to Dragon Shrine, which is better. The SC music is very cool.
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May 4, 2017 21:02
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Orthodox Rabbit posted:Is Berserker rage or Leap the better one? I usually take rage because its cool to yell real loud and then hit people harder. Berserker deals much more damage, if you have a healer on you then that's the closest you will get to feeling like a farmed carry from dota. Leap is good if your team has poor initiation or too few slows/stuns/roots. At low MMR, leap + the crater talent is a great way to tell your clueless team: TEAMFIGHT IS NOW THIS GUY RIGHT HERE DIES FIRST FILL THE CRATER WITH SPELLS HE CAN'T loving MOVE and then you still have Q ready to cast. Stun someone out of a channeled spell or position for a perfect WW heal.
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May 4, 2017 21:05
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Actually since sonya-smart people are posting right now what's the best use of her fury? I assume in a gob of heroes during a team fight its best to just use whirlwind. But when is it better to use slam vs whirlwind?
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May 4, 2017 21:08
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That reminds me, last night my hots group had a new wombo combo for pissing people off. Wall someone in with Sonya using Nazeebo, stun from the outside and whirlwind to a fine consistency. Sit back, pour yourself a drink, and watch the beyblade cage match.
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May 4, 2017 21:16
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Did they delete the skeleton abathur skin? Had a look at his loadout today since I got him in the bundle I picked and was thinking about giving him a go and was "wait, Abathur just has the pyjamas and his old master skin? Could have sworn he had another one", was very confusing.
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May 4, 2017 21:23
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thebardyspoon posted:Did they delete the skeleton abathur skin? Had a look at his loadout today since I got him in the bundle I picked and was thinking about giving him a go and was "wait, Abathur just has the pyjamas and his old master skin? Could have sworn he had another one", was very confusing. I looked that skin up, it's a halloween skin isn't it? It doesn't look like it shows you any holiday skins unless the holiday is happening. Unless you're saying you had the skin and it's not showing up now in which case  edit: Although the valentines skins and mounts are in the game so I have no idea
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