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I should point out that the 2015 NLDS is tied for my favorite series of all time with the 2011 World Series. Yes, we lost. To the Cubs, even. However, I got to take my dad to Game 4 (and my write-up for it was super Field of Dreams-y) and that series was also when I met Kevlar and Poque. Totally worth the Cards losing in October, I just hope they don't make a habit of it.
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As a side note to that story wow was Albert Belle robbed of the MVP in 1995. I could see giving it to Edgar maybe, bur Mo Vaughn was flat out worse at everything.
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Pancakes posted:I should point out that the 2015 NLDS is tied for my favorite series of all time with the 2011 World Series. Yes, we lost. To the Cubs, even. However, I got to take my dad to Game 4 (and my write-up for it was super Field of Dreams-y) and that series was also when I met Kevlar and Poque. Totally worth the Cards losing in October, I just hope they don't make a habit of it. Sigh. I realize the Cubs are very good, but man I am yeaaaaars from stating something like this. My most interesting game was Liriano's no hitter against the White Sox where he walked like 42 players. We were in the scout seats directly behind home plate and didnt even realize it was a no-no until the 6th inning.
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May 4, 2017 17:01
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Plus you might be able to unload Markakis on somebody who needs a leadoff guy for a prospect or two. He's playing well and I'd much rather have Markakis at the top of the order than Carlos Santana. Not that I dislike Santana, I just like the idea of my leadoff guy being more mobile, and Nick can still move despite being 33.
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ChiTownEddie posted:Sigh. I realize the Cubs are very good, but man I am yeaaaaars from stating something like this. It came on the heels of 4 straight NLCS appearances, including a championship and a pennant. If ever there were a time I'd have had the attitude that it was someone else's turn, that year was it.
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Inspector_666 posted:Apparently the umpires at Fenway had to be escorted out by security tonight. Were they dropping N-bombs too?
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Grittybeard posted:As a side note to that story wow was Albert Belle robbed of the MVP in 1995. Albert Belle is a weird way to spell Edgar Martinez
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Grittybeard posted:As a side note to that story wow was Albert Belle robbed of the MVP in 1995. Albert Belle was one of the most hated people in baseball, and for some reasons rightfully so. He also had the bat scandal the year prior. Edgar led Seattle to their first ever playoff, considering the team was without Griffey most of the season. But people didn't value OBP, and him being a DH didn't help either 
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elentar posted:Nah, getting Upton off the books was so crucial that I remember people being shocked they even got a prospect out of it at all. So much dead weight. I disagree. They could have maxed their return on Kimbrel and just ate Upton's deal or waited to see if he rebounded. They were in full-on rebuild mode and rebuilding teams don't need money, as evidenced by them eating a whole lot of deals over the last couple years, but they do need as much talent as they can get. seiferguy posted:Albert Belle was one of the most hated people in baseball, and for some reasons rightfully so. He also had the bat scandal the year prior. Jose Mesa, a closer who finished 4th in the voting, was only worth .4 WAR less than Vaughn. That was a terrible year for voting. tadashi fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 17:51
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if you're rebuilding, its best to follow the Cubs and now Yankees model of finding talented hitters and figuring out the pitching later. as we've seen, pitchers are increasingly more fungible, and aces like Kershaw and Sale are extremely rare! of course, you need good luck and good scouts to even have poo poo maybe break right, but it seems like hitting first pitching later is a solid model to build on
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seiferguy posted:He also had the bat scandal the year prior. One of the funniest stories in baseball history
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tadashi posted:Jose Mesa, a closer who finished 4th in the voting, was only worth .4 WAR less than Vaughn. That was a terrible year for voting. Yeah I mentioned Edgar right off the bat, my main problem is with Mo Vaughn winning.
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At least they got the Cy Young right in 95. Johnson and Maddux were insane. But then again, they were insane by both traditional and advanced stats.Intruder posted:One of the funniest stories in baseball history Dispatching a AAAA reliever to perform a burglary is the best bullpen management I've ever seen.
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May 4, 2017 18:08
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You guys aren't gonna believe this but apparently Cespedes might be out longer than the Mets initially anticipated!
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Also, I just want to talk about how insane / weird Albert Belle was: - Charged the stands when he was in college - Corked all of his bats in 94 - Was told to apologize to the media for not speaking to them during the 95 world series, refused - Was charged 10k a year by the Indians because he wrecked the clubhouse continuously, including throwing plates in the showers - Preferred the clubhouse be below 60 degrees, and one time when another player turned up the heat, he went to the thermostat and turned it down and smashed it with a bat - Destroyed Kenny Lofton's boombox - Chased after teenagers in his car and hit them after he alleged they egged his house - Crushed Fernando Vina's face to break up a DP - Threw a foul ball at a fan because the fan was heckling him I'm probably missing things. But while I will admit Belle has HoF numbers, the dude was (technically is, he's still upset about the 95 MVP award lol) insane. I think this is the one use of the character clause that makes sense.
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Went to watch the clip of Belle laying out Vina. Saw this in the related videos. Bottom of the 11th? Hit by a pitch? NO. I want to hit, drat it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYDBFAFOqC8 With a bonus of what I assume were some "turn forward the clock" unis. Edit : I didn't notice the graphic at the start of the clip and checked the box score. Belle was 4-4 on the day at the time of the at bat. 3 HRs, a single and walk. Wanted that game winning 4th HR pretty bad, I guess. Orioles won in that inning. Ripken singled in Surhoff three batters later. Tony Phillips fucked around with this message at 18:53 on May 4, 2017 |
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tadashi posted:I disagree. They could have maxed their return on Kimbrel and just ate Upton's deal or waited to see if he rebounded. They were in full-on rebuild mode and rebuilding teams don't need money, as evidenced by them eating a whole lot of deals over the last couple years, but they do need as much talent as they can get. I definitely see the point, but think there's a deeper problem here that the Braves then were (and probably still are) just across-the-board terrible in identifying and developing hitting talent; these are the same people who ignored every single warning sign about Francoeur, who did whatever the hell they did to Andy Marte for him to end up like he did, who kept pushing Jordan Schafer up the pipes, who consistently made terrible decisions on expensive long-term contracts, etc. It's a miracle that Freeman survived, and probably just a matter of random luck given what a disastrous run of drafts they had for almost a decade there. What they could do then was bring unheralded arms through (and then torch through them at the major league level, but that's a different pathology). If anything, they probably didn't burn down enough of the structure. They never quite went full Astro.
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We were talking about the bat incident in the GDT and Intruder reminded me that the bat they replaced wasn't Belle's, and in fact belonged to Paul Sorrento, with Sorrento's signature stamped on it. The scheme could not even conceivably have worked unless the umps were colossal idiots.
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fast cars loose anus posted:We were talking about the bat incident in the GDT and Intruder reminded me that the bat they replaced wasn't Belle's, and in fact belonged to Paul Sorrento, with Sorrento's signature stamped on it. The scheme could not even conceivably have worked unless the umps were colossal idiots. Yeah I meant to post that bat incident story here. Albert Belle Wiki posted:Belle was suspended in 1994 for using a corked bat, and gained further notoriety for sending teammate Jason Grimsley through the building's ceiling panel to break into the locked umpires' dressing room to retrieve his corked bat and substitute it with another teammate's bat, resulting in a seven-game suspension.
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Honestly I'm amazed he only got 7 games for that; I would think the cover up would have been worth at least 10 on its own
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When asked why he used Sorrento's bat instead of grabbing one of Albert's that hadn't been corked, Grimsley said that all of Albert's bats were corked
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Popete posted:Yeah I meant to post that bat incident story here. There's a really good video on the story somewhere but I'm having trouble finding it. It's really ridiculous and worth watching if someone knows what I'm talking about.
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fast cars loose anus posted:unless the umps were colossal idiots. I mean... worth a try, right?
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So Marwin Gonzalez is hitting .246/.352/.672 which is ridiculous (and that ISO is unsustainable) But it turns out his BABIP is .179  e: Yes, I realize he only has 73 PA
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beejay posted:Derek Jeter looks weird That's Phil Collins.
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Inspector_666 posted:You guys aren't gonna believe this but apparently Cespedes might be out longer than the Mets initially anticipated! how funny that he was allowed to play while injured, by the Mets of all teams
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beejay posted:Derek Jeter looks weird Is his chin shrinking or the rest of his head growing? Edit: I just realized, he is transforming into Terry Francona. Salvor_Hardin fucked around with this message at 21:01 on May 4, 2017 |
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N: https://twitter.com/RealKentMurphy/status/859923651176673284 V: The kids are alright. I bet she's got the best bat flips in the league too.
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Intentional Talk just asked Freddie Freeman if he'd rather go back to his old teeth (he recently got veneers) or play at Miller Park full time. He picked his old teeth
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Paul Zuvella would like to announce that I hope he gets better soon
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He's been absolute trash all season but good lord, Kyle Kendrick: #4 starter is now the reality I'd honestly prefer giving Henry Owens his 5 or 6th chance
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NiceGuy posted:He's been absolute trash all season but good lord, Kyle Kendrick: #4 starter is now the reality Price is inching closer to being back, let Kendrick soak some innings then cut him loose when Price is healthy
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My dad has partial season tickets for the Rangers, so I've been to plenty of games, but the only notable ones I can recall: First World Series win in franchise history in 2010. Seeing Josh Hamilton kill that guy. Ian Kinsler's 6 for 6 cycle game.
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Pancakes posted:I've never seen a balk live that I can remember. Odd/cool/bad things I've seen live: Catcher's interference, Yadier Molina triple, Beltran's 1,000th career XBH, Estrada taking a no-no into the 8th, go-ahead pinch hit RBI double by Wainwright in extras, Wainwright blowing out his Achilles. Oddest one I've been to was a game in which the Marlins had Abraham F. Nunez, and the Pirates had Abraham O. Nunez.
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Texas relief pitchers combined to go 4IP today, giving up 4 hits and 9 walks. The Astros managed to only score 2 runs in those innings, both on sac flies. Thats some impressively bad baseball.
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Yeah it's pretty crazy to have more than 3 baserunners per inning and only manage two runs
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Waaaaaaaay late to balk chat (thanks school and other poo poo), but there was a balk call on a Brewer pitcher earlier this year that... you know, actually was a balk and not some "oh he twitched the wrong way". He started throwing to first, decided not to mid throw, realized "OH gently caress" and threw it, but by that point he was already called for it. It was crazy to see such a blatant one that wasn't controversial at all.
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In the latest "gently caress off, Curt Schilling" newsquote:I don’t believe the story, given the world we live in. I don’t believe it, for this reason: Everybody is starving and hungry to sit in front of a camera and talk and be social justice warriors. And if a fan yelled loud enough in center field for Adam Jones to hear the N-word, I guarantee you we would’ve heard and seen fans around on CNN on MSNBC, they would’ve found multiple fans to talk about what a racist piece of junk Boston is. quote:“I spent most of my adult life in baseball parks. I heard the N-word out of my black teammates’ mouths about 100 million times,” Schilling continued. “For somebody to talk loud enough for Adam Jones to hear the N-word in center field, other people would have heard it. https://twitter.com/gehrig38/status/860181762818936864
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