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EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Very poor design. Far right chap (pun intended) will get neck only half cut through disappointing the Tricoteuses and crowd. Try again.

E: Inventing history snipe - 1733: DuFay demonstrates electric charges in glass and amber rods, Franklin suggests principle of electric flow. Kay invents flying shuttle for weaving.
Also the War of Polish Succession begins.

EmptyVessel fucked around with this message at 22:07 on May 4, 2017

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Technically that is also true of the hell bed and the car supermarket and the underground delivery network.
Their restaurant idea is cool but massively overengineered.

I might go and eat there once just to see the descending plates, depending on how good the food were and if they dozen staff they had were treated well.

And depending on where the hell they'd even locate a megarestaurant like that.

Probably somewhere like Dubai, so I wouldn't.

endlessmonotony posted:

We do know what pressure changes do to the human body. It's mostly useful for treating divers.
That's the other way around. Sudden repressurization isn't nearly as dangerous.

Other than the 700mph gust of wind. That might be a problem.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

endlessmonotony posted:

We do know what pressure changes do to the human body. It's mostly useful for treating divers.

That involves pressure going up, with a difference significantly more than 1 atmosphere. Explosive decompression from 1atm to vacuum is perfectly survivable, stands to reason the other way around would be too.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

OwlFancier posted:

Technically that is also true of the hell bed and the car supermarket and the underground delivery network.

Car supermarket, sure.

The hellbed and the underground delivery network would have a lot of technological issues left to solve to actually work as advertised. To be fair the delivery network does have precedent in pneumatic mail so they could figure out how to protect the packages... but there's no way Dahir Insaat has that kind of science knowledge.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

What the hell is a hellbed?

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.


i am irrationally upset by this. 15 is not 1 million

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Guavanaut posted:

That's the other way around. Sudden repressurization isn't nearly as dangerous.

Other than the 700mph gust of wind. That might be a problem.


jabby posted:

That involves pressure going up, with a difference significantly more than 1 atmosphere. Explosive decompression from 1atm to vacuum is perfectly survivable, stands to reason the other way around would be too.

I wasn't implying it'd be as dangerous as what happens with divers - in fact, in depressurizing and repressurizing from/to 1 atmosphere I'd be more worried about debris... but not like being exposed to vacuum for a short time is very dangerous either, especially if the depressurization takes more than a few seconds.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

jabby posted:

What the hell is a hellbed?

A bed that when it detects an earthquake, drops the occupant into a small, sealed metal chamber containing supplies.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

jabby posted:

What the hell is a hellbed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zMOWg6Adok

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Oberleutnant posted:

If people aren't voting in their best interests the best hing you can do, rather than talking about them being stupid ignorant racist cunts on the internet, is try to get involved in some grass roots activism and show your principles by example and hope to win people over.
Without the money, power, or other resources of a major political party it's about the best thing you can do. But it takes a lot of time, a lot of patience, and a huge resistance to burnout because political activism is often soul destroying stuff.

Some woman today: "I don't want to vote Labour because Labour make it so you get more benefits than you do working, and I think that's wrong."
Also that woman today: "I'm going to have plenty of time for voting soon at least, I'm being made redundant."

jBrereton posted:

End of the day you had Chaka Umunna talking sense about this last night on C4 news, and if the party is failing to deal with the press, that is a failure of the party apparatus.

I haven't heard about this at all but Teresa May being a mentalist has been all over the papers. The papers are fundamentally right-wing, and Blair only got around that by offering loads of concessions to Murdoch.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

:stonk:

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
i mean surely after going through 14 necks the blade will have slowed down a bit. not sure if enough to make it not kill you, i'm no murder scientist. make it a bit higher maybe? i'm the ideas guy

jabby
Oct 27, 2010


Jesus Christ.

Also:
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/860240177222090752

Who actually comes up with these rumours? How do they get their information? Why do they bother releasing it?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


You ain't seen nothing yet, BAE systems' latest product:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NyTNOgttfE

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

spectralent posted:

Some woman today: "I don't want to vote Labour because Labour make it so you get more benefits than you do working, and I think that's wrong."
Also that woman today: "I'm going to have plenty of time for voting soon at least, I'm being made redundant."
Has that ever been true? I guess it might be for single parents with a dozen children, but wasn't there a thing that showed that the number of those cases in the entire country was countable on both hands?

Or for people who are too disabled/terminally ill to work, but gently caress people who are against them having independence.

There is the issue of the part-time/low income trap, where you're worse off on a bad contract than on JSA, and that is poo poo, but surely the solution to that is to have a top up that you can claim in those cases, not to make the unemployed worse off.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Angepain posted:

i mean surely after going through 14 necks the blade will have slowed down a bit. not sure if enough to make it not kill you, i'm no murder scientist. make it a bit higher maybe? i'm the ideas guy

Blade is too short at right end to cut through the entire neck.

That hellbed needs to become a 'must have' for the rich, and then we need to remotely trigger them all at the same time.

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



EmptyVessel posted:

Blade is too short at right end to cut through the entire neck.

That hellbed needs to become a 'must have' for the rich, and then we need to remotely trigger them all at the same time.

Those hellbeds apparently run at $3000 so I think being able to spring that much for a doom cube makes being rich a sort of pre-requisite :stare:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

jabby posted:

Well yeah, a hyperloop train can be back to normal pressure in less than a few seconds assuming you just blow some emergency hatches off the tube and open it to atmosphere. That would also be the solution to the 'train crashes/gets stuck' problem.

Yeah, but if you blow the hatch, the train then accelerates very, very quickly away from the blown hatch. A fairly tight-fitting object in a tube with a pressure differential between one end and the other is more commonly known as a "bullet".

Blow one on the other side to even it out you say? Well unless you're incredibly lucky with the positioning of the car - that it's exactly between the two hatches - what you've now got is an object travelling very quickly about to hit one atmosphere of air coming towards it at about 700 miles an hour, which will have a number of ramifications for the structural integrity of your train, which can be most easily summed up as "totally loving it up". Also all the squishy humans in it have just been accelerated at dozens of G in one direction and are about to change direction very, very quickly. This is considered a bad thing for comfort and continuing to have all your internal organs where they're supposed to be.

Of course all this hatch-blowing also means that the self-same air is now seeking out all the rest of your trains. By the time it reaches them it will have still be doing 700mph but will have bought a *lot* of backup with it and the people in the next train it finds will find out that "fluid hammer" is not just the name of a particularly specialist sexual practice. End result of trying to save one train from the sort of tiny welding and fabrication problems that any manufactured system has? The death of every single person traveling on the system, and the system itself being completely destroyed. This is what engineers describe as "suboptimal".

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

jabby posted:

Who actually comes up with these rumours? How do they get their information? Why do they bother releasing it?

have you ever experienced the peak of lunacy that is Transfer Deadline Day, at least five years ago? The rolling news feeds were full of not very much from journalists and then variations of "I saw x at a chip shop in y, could he be signing" and poo poo of that ilk. Of course, as soon as one fan attacked a reporter with a dildo, it's all quietened down

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

jabby posted:

Jesus Christ.

Also:
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/860240177222090752

Who actually comes up with these rumours? How do they get their information? Why do they bother releasing it?

The parties are allowed people to 'observe' the count and they can generally get an idea of how its going.

ukle
Nov 28, 2005
https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/860244656495448065

FFS. I know these have been not greatly advertised but these are for positions that are likely to hold considerable power.

hand-fed baby bird
May 13, 2009
Polling station was abandoned when I voted.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

serious gaylord posted:

The parties are allowed people to 'observe' the count and they can generally get an idea of how its going.

The count doesn't start till 10am tomorrow.

Returns from GOTV around Nottingham today seemed pretty good, obviously there is a lot of Nottinghamshire outside of Nottingham though. Currently it's Labour controlled but not Labour majority.

MikeCrotch fucked around with this message at 22:41 on May 4, 2017

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Guavanaut posted:

Has that ever been true? I guess it might be for single parents with a dozen children, but wasn't there a thing that showed that the number of those cases in the entire country was countable on both hands?

Said woman provided the answer here, too: "You watch all these programs like benefit street..."

In short, yeah, these cases are astonishingly rare, but they're always the example cases that're showcased in national media and TV programs, so they're the cases everyone thinks of as "the typical benefits case".

quote:

Or for people who are too disabled/terminally ill to work, but gently caress people who are against them having independence.

There is the issue of the part-time/low income trap, where you're worse off on a bad contract than on JSA, and that is poo poo, but surely the solution to that is to have a top up that you can claim in those cases, not to make the unemployed worse off.

I'd fully agree but I was doing the admin stuff for my runner.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah, but if you blow the hatch, the train then accelerates very, very quickly away from the blown hatch. A fairly tight-fitting object in a tube with a pressure differential between one end and the other is more commonly known as a "bullet".

Blow one on the other side to even it out you say? Well unless you're incredibly lucky with the positioning of the car - that it's exactly between the two hatches - what you've now got is an object travelling very quickly about to hit one atmosphere of air coming towards it at about 700 miles an hour, which will have a number of ramifications for the structural integrity of your train, which can be most easily summed up as "totally loving it up". Also all the squishy humans in it have just been accelerated at dozens of G in one direction and are about to change direction very, very quickly. This is considered a bad thing for comfort and continuing to have all your internal organs where they're supposed to be.

Of course all this hatch-blowing also means that the self-same air is now seeking out all the rest of your trains. By the time it reaches them it will have still be doing 700mph but will have bought a *lot* of backup with it and the people in the next train it finds will find out that "fluid hammer" is not just the name of a particularly specialist sexual practice. End result of trying to save one train from the sort of tiny welding and fabrication problems that any manufactured system has? The death of every single person traveling on the system, and the system itself being completely destroyed. This is what engineers describe as "suboptimal".

The mass of the cars would mean they wouldn't accelerate to any significant degree in the couple of seconds it would take for air pressure to equalise.

Also you can just open the hatches more slowly if you want to slow down the repressurisation.

Also we're way down the rabbit-hole here.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

hand-fed baby bird posted:

Polling station was abandoned when I voted.

We watched maybe 5 people show up over an hour, all of them either old or personal friends of our candidate. Turnout was 34% last time, so I daresay it might be lower.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

MikeCrotch posted:

The count doesn't start till 10am tomorrow.

Returns from GOTV around Nottingham today seemed pretty good, obviously there is a lot of Nottinghamshire outside of Nottingham though. Currently it's Labour controlled but not Labour majority.

Depending how quick their data collection outside the polling is processed (checking poll cards against historical voting records) they can get a vague idea of whose supporters have come out.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Guavanaut posted:

Has that ever been true? I guess it might be for single parents with a dozen children, but wasn't there a thing that showed that the number of those cases in the entire country was countable on both hands?

Or for people who are too disabled/terminally ill to work, but gently caress people who are against them having independence.

There is the issue of the part-time/low income trap, where you're worse off on a bad contract than on JSA, and that is poo poo, but surely the solution to that is to have a top up that you can claim in those cases, not to make the unemployed worse off.

Presumably she's thinking of tabloids screaming about "unemployed man lives in a 12-bedroom mansion paid for with YOUR TAXES" and "benefits mum has 17 children by 20 DIFFERENT MEN" and unwilling and/or too stupid to realise that cases like these make up a vanishingly small minority of benefits claimants.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

ukle posted:

https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/860244656495448065

FFS. I know these have been not greatly advertised but these are for positions that are likely to hold considerable power.

I'm in the West Midlands and no effort at all has been made here to tell us what powers and responsibilities our new mayor will have.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
My wife was voter number 16 when she voted at 19:30. There's about 250 potential voters here.
Tbf it was only for the metro mayor whatever the gently caress that is

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860248375056375808https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/860248375056375808
Might as well pack it up guys.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Guavanaut posted:

Has that ever been true? I guess it might be for single parents with a dozen children, but wasn't there a thing that showed that the number of those cases in the entire country was countable on both hands?

Or for people who are too disabled/terminally ill to work, but gently caress people who are against them having independence.

There is the issue of the part-time/low income trap, where you're worse off on a bad contract than on JSA, and that is poo poo, but surely the solution to that is to have a top up that you can claim in those cases, not to make the unemployed worse off.

Child Tax Credit drops by 41p per £1 of gross income over a limit according to a website I just found. By the time you've also lost a bit on Working Tax Credit (not sure on the rate) and paid taxes, maybe pension contributions, maybe student loan repayments, it's pretty easy to have a pay rise and actually not see much increase in disposable income, if any. Of course, eventually you hit a point where you're not getting the benefits at all and then it's all gravy but there's definitely a point (which I'm in right now) where a salary hike looks great but actually doesn't help all that much.

It's not quite as bad as being better off on benefits, but I can see where people get the idea from.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I've been getting regular emails about it from Labour but, well, they would send me them.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

ukle posted:

Had only Labour (great guy), Conservative (brown noser with property companies) and Green to choose from for the CC elections. Also heard the same from 2 other people in different area i.e. no LD but a green candidate. Have the Lib Dem's just given up on County Councils that they stand no chance in now? Its odd given the Greens are trying yet the LD's just not bothering.

Depending on the area, some Lib Dems have stood down for the Greens for the County Councils as a thank you for Richmond.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Turnout is likely to depressed anyway due to the number of elections there have been recently & are upcoming. It was only 38% last time around for the locals, it was looking pretty poor round my area which isn't a great sign for Labour.

Oh also, I met Keir Starmer canvassing today and can confirm he is posh as gently caress. Some woman on the doorstep tried to sell him an LED lightbulb scheme.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

ukle posted:

Had only Labour (great guy), Conservative (brown noser with property companies) and Green to choose from for the CC elections. Also heard the same from 2 other people in different area i.e. no LD but a green candidate. Have the Lib Dem's just given up on County Councils that they stand no chance in now? Its odd given the Greens are trying yet the LD's just not bothering.
We had 2 in my neck of the woods, plus two Labour candidates.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

sebzilla posted:

Child Tax Credit drops by 41p per £1 of gross income over a limit according to a website I just found. By the time you've also lost a bit on Working Tax Credit (not sure on the rate) and paid taxes, maybe pension contributions, maybe student loan repayments, it's pretty easy to have a pay rise and actually not see much increase in disposable income, if any. Of course, eventually you hit a point where you're not getting the benefits at all and then it's all gravy but there's definitely a point (which I'm in right now) where a salary hike looks great but actually doesn't help all that much.

It's not quite as bad as being better off on benefits, but I can see where people get the idea from.
Normally the people complaining about 'better off on benefits than in work' are talking about the benefits that unemployed or sick people get to help them survive rather than the benefits that people in work get, which are 'good' benefits (see the woman crying on QT).

Creating that distinction between good people benefits and bad people benefits is part of the whole reason behind tax credits in the first place though, which is why they were a cornerstone of Reaganomics, to drive a wedge between the deserving and undeserving poor. Which explains why Blair was such a fan.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

MikeCrotch posted:

Turnout is likely to depressed anyway due to the number of elections there have been recently & are upcoming. It was only 38% last time around for the locals, it was looking pretty poor round my area which isn't a great sign for Labour.

Plus it's meant local parties are broke as gently caress. They've had to deal with the 2015 election and the 2016 campaign for brexit and were in the middle of local elections campaigns and now there's a general.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Serotonin posted:

My wife was voter number 16 when she voted at 19:30. There's about 250 potential voters here.
Tbf it was only for the metro mayor whatever the gently caress that is

The metro mayor controls the purse-strings for the councils under their purview. Functionally, the post is a Conservative power-grab designed to let them control councils that would otherwise be safely Labour or Lib Dem. If you live in an area with a Conservative mayor, expect your local government quality to deteriorate rapidly.

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