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Charger X carried me u til I got a Vanquisher card. The only UR weapon card I have is Valiant. I was super stoked because it rocked in ME3, but its so awful in this game...
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WanderingKid posted:Charger X carried me u til I got a Vanquisher card. The only UR weapon card I have is Valiant. I was super stoked because it rocked in ME3, but its so awful in this game... My first two URs were the shotgun. 
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May 4, 2017 18:29
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WanderingKid posted:Charger X carried me u til I got a Vanquisher card. The only UR weapon card I have is Valiant. I was super stoked because it rocked in ME3, but its so awful in this game... I was lucky enough to pull a Hurricane. It's a direct upgrade to the Charger and does enough damage that it's actually a decent gun.
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May 4, 2017 18:31
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Charger is nice because it's so lightweight that you can run a Charger X alongside a decent sniper rifle and still have 100% recharge rates.
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May 4, 2017 18:43
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According to tests by peddroelm (ME3 data miner), combos don't scale by power rank or difficulty. Fix your poo poo Bioware
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May 4, 2017 19:06
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Every single gun/tech build I have runs a Vanquisher because it's the best gun in the game. I can't use anything else because they need +8 levels just to be "ok". Zakmonster posted:I keep hearing this complaint, but I don't quite get it. The characters sound alright to me. The Salarians are a bit wimpy (especially the Operator). The operator is actually a pretty good support if you spec him right. You can get infinite shield-regen (With no recharge delay.) Which makes it impossible to die to snipers. His other two powers cover all enemy types and Infect can generate a lot of support points. You really need a Vanquisher/Isharay/BlackWidow to make him work though.
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May 4, 2017 20:54
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Thor-Stryker posted:Every single gun/tech build I have runs a Vanquisher because it's the best gun in the game. I can't use anything else because they need +8 levels just to be "ok". Hahaha
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May 4, 2017 20:57
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Thor-Stryker posted:Every single gun/tech build I have runs a Vanquisher because it's the best gun in the game. I can't use anything else because they need +8 levels just to be "ok". I use a scorpion III and a charger X on mine. Works pretty good so far.
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May 4, 2017 21:12
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I'm gonna laugh if their balance stream tomorrow is still them playing on bronze
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May 4, 2017 21:17
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The Vanquisher is the best gun in the game and the gun balance overall right now is terrible but acting like it and a couple others are the only useable guns in the game is a bit of an exaggeration.
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May 4, 2017 21:19
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Rocketpriest posted:In that same game I also had a bug where I couldn't use powers or fire my gun
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May 4, 2017 21:50
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It turned out that to fix this I had to get shot enough to reach one bar of hp, then everything magically worked again.
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May 4, 2017 22:02
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Error 404 posted:That reminds me, has anyone had stuff just...stop working? Jump then melee unfucks this too. It is goddamn annoying.
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May 4, 2017 22:05
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Digirat posted:I'm gonna laugh if their balance stream tomorrow is still them playing on bronze All vanquishers, rank X, on bronze. "Weapon damage is fine, too good as you can see here, so we're nerfing it."
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May 4, 2017 22:09
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Error 404 posted:That reminds me, has anyone had stuff just...stop working? Yeah that pops up fairly often. The other one is the Jetpack Hop https://i.imgur.com/2jPjfC5.mp4 Charging seems to fix both of them but there really needs to be an actual solution
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May 4, 2017 22:12
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I've had melee continue to not work after charging. It's not guaranteed.
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May 4, 2017 22:19
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Digirat posted:I've had melee continue to not work after charging. It's not guaranteed. it's also a great way to die, if it happens when you're mid-combat you're pretty much screwed since you rely on the extra shields
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May 4, 2017 22:23
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moist turtleneck posted:The voices are definitely different but I'm most confused about the krogan females turning into lispy gay dudes I said it before and I'll say it again, the Krogan Engineer sounds like Napoleon Dynamite more than that. I mean I hear what you're saying but it's way more ND with the "AWESOME JOB!" and "OHHH COOL A HYDRA!" like Napoleon going "NUNCHUKS"
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May 4, 2017 23:15
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I'm torn between the hurricane and equalizer, myself, at least for non-weapon based characters. Weapon platforms go all Revenant, all the time.
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May 4, 2017 23:18
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Bruc posted:The Vanquisher is the best gun in the game and the gun balance overall right now is terrible but acting like it and a couple others are the only useable guns in the game is a bit of an exaggeration. I'm way more forgiving than most and here is my comprehensive list of guns worth using on Gold (note: I don't have all guns yet): No-brainers: Vanquisher (any rank, is great at 1) Equalizer (any rank, with an Ammo booster, on a class that can Detonate) Raptor (never tried it until it was rank X, no-scope assault rifle) Talon (any rank) Piranha (any rank) Kinda good: Falcon/Scorpion (any rank, ammo mods help here too) Isharay (if you never miss) Black Widow Widow (if you never miss) Thokin (if you have Turbocharge) PAW/Sweeper (allegedly good, I haven't used them much) Sandstorm (allegedly, I hate the scope) Hesh Scattershot Inferno (Vanquisher that doesn't use ammo, kinda) Lanat (Vanquisher you can charge) Sidewinder Eagle Hurricane That's like 75% of the guns in the game right there. So yeah the balance isn't quite as bad as people are saying, it's more that all enemies take forever to kill. Berserkers take 7 headshots from a Vanquisher.
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May 4, 2017 23:25
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I agree with you not putting the Dhan on that list because man that gun is underwhelming
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May 4, 2017 23:30
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The Dhan rules in SP so it was particularly disappointing for me. I mean the Piranha in MP isn't stupidly brokenly powerful like it is in SP but it's still pretty good (especially since you probably have a ton of Shotgun Rail Amps from never using Shotguns). One thing I keep wondering - is it hurting the lag to keep having to animate and track, say, all the loving clutter that gets lifted by Annihilation or all the bullet holes on walls? Has anyone even figured out if those things are visible to everyone or just the person doing them?
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May 5, 2017 00:33
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precision posted:One thing I keep wondering - is it hurting the lag to keep having to animate and track, say, all the loving clutter that gets lifted by Annihilation or all the bullet holes on walls? Has anyone even figured out if those things are visible to everyone or just the person doing them? Annihilation lifting clutter shows up for me. I never play classes that have it, so I know its not me.
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May 5, 2017 00:37
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For those still opening the basic crates, get on the discord and join some modded lobbies for easy credits, then buy some of the more expensive packs for variety. And for the ones trying out ME3 multi, use cheat engine and edit your credits. They don't support the game, so no bans.
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May 5, 2017 00:38
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precision posted:I'm way more forgiving than most and here is my comprehensive list of guns worth using on Gold (note: I don't have all guns yet): I'd still argue some of those aren't that good: -Falcon/Scorpion suffer from the fact that mobs don't stand as close to each other anymore, Remnant mobs spread even more due to flying types. -PAW is cool for shields but not much else -Inferno has travel time and bad enough accuracy that makes it regularly misses headshots unless you take the shoot-mans perks. -Eagle is slightly better than rank X Predator pistol, except it's an UR so have fun levelling it. -Sidewinder is good if you can consistently land headshots at a close range, but the Talon/Equalizer outclasses it for gun-light characters. And that's mainly from my experience on silver, perhaps powerups are what's needed to break the severe weakness of all these guns?
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May 5, 2017 00:45
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Carnifex ain't bad
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Thor-Stryker posted:-Eagle is slightly better than rank X Predator pistol, except it's an UR so have fun levelling it. Well that's the point, even at rank 1 the Eagle outdamages the Predator in every way. A better argument would be "Eagle is only slightly better than Equalizer". Houdini posted:Carnifex ain't bad It's not as good as it was in ME3 They need to bring back the Paladin. And I'm referring to both the gun and the class 
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May 5, 2017 00:56
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precision posted:Well that's the point, even at rank 1 the Eagle outdamages the Predator in every way. A better argument would be "Eagle is only slightly better than Equalizer". Except that you put it in a category of 'Kinda Good' when it barely does poo poo on Bronze. To which Predator X is poo poo too.
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precision posted:They need to bring back the Paladin. And I'm referring to both the gun and the class Well let's be fair here - things like the Paladin didn't show up until months after launch. The class, I mean.
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Thor-Stryker posted:Except that you put it in a category of 'Kinda Good' when it barely does poo poo on Bronze. To which Predator X is poo poo too.  I take an Eagle 1 into Gold, fight me
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May 5, 2017 01:18
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Houdini posted:Carnifex ain't bad I tried it on gold and recall it taking 10 headshots to kill a raider. gently caress yes it's bad.
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May 5, 2017 02:22
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Salarian Architect is great even at low ranks, and I hope he's an indicator of classes to come. Having free on-demand Cryo is pretty cool and saved my rear end many times.
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May 5, 2017 02:29
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precision posted:Salarian Architect is great even at low ranks, and I hope he's an indicator of classes to come. Having free on-demand Cryo is pretty cool and saved my rear end many times. I think the AI's AI needs to be tightened up, and movement speed increased to match the player, but yeah its a fun class.
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May 5, 2017 02:43
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precision posted:Salarian Architect is great even at low ranks, and I hope he's an indicator of classes to come. Having free on-demand Cryo is pretty cool and saved my rear end many times. Turian engineer should be next  The gimmick is you can hover above your turret to see how bad it is
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May 5, 2017 08:31
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Houdini posted:Turian engineer should be next Only if you constantly shout calibrating in a high pitched falsetto.
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Alright, summary of the livestream (I managed to get away with watching it at work); -Non-sniper weapons are all getting a buff -Some powers were getting a buff -Combos were bugged and not scaling with difficulty -Shotguns will have a 'more defined role' related to use as a skirmish weapon -Mid & high level outlaw units getting buffed -Kett all getting nerfed, including sync kill chances -Cobra RPGs getting a buff. Won't be OHK, but more damage will carry through, including on Ascendants -UR weapons are supposed to feel better and be better than other rarities, and are getting buffed -They are looking into crashing and definitely want any feedback from people there -They're going to add something to do/buy with unused mission funds, related to progression speed No actual numbers for now, but they'll post them closer to release.
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May 5, 2017 18:33
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It really will be cool to see new classes. I'd like to see a proper Turian Vanguard (though a return of the Cabal Vanguard would still be cool). Maybe Biotic Charge/Fortify/Turbocharge, with a passive focusing on Biotic Ammo?
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BreakAtmo posted:It really will be cool to see new classes. I'd like to see a proper Turian Vanguard (though a return of the Cabal Vanguard would still be cool). Maybe Biotic Charge/Fortify/Turbocharge, with a passive focusing on Biotic Ammo? There was no mention of new classes, but I feel it's safe to assume there will be some released with this patch. That's at least sort of how it worked previously.
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May 5, 2017 18:35
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It sounds like they're at least aware of the real problems this time, so hopefully they actually fix them!
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Yeah. Sounds like they're making some decent changes. The stream cut out for me in places. I heard them talking about shotguns, but did they say anything about shotgun chokes in particular?
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