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Used to have an old Grey Kirby from back in the 80's, but it ended up getting lost in storage or something thanks to an idiot. Still have one of the g3's from the early aughts, No where near as good as the older one.
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Sarsapariller posted:I am 100% convinced, based on this thread because I don't actually watch their stuff anymore, that they have spent the last 5 months doing nothing but working on a cafeteria scene. I hope somebody does a supercut some day of the like dozen hours of footage they have of developers and artists describing the intense levels of effort people have put into getting this weak-rear end shot of spacemen eating some food, instead of doing anything remotely related to flying or fighting. At this point half of SQ42 better take place around the god drat lunch table? Okay, I can't really believe I'm going to do this, but I'm going to sorta defend CIG here. I think that their obsession with the lunch room scene is because it's a complex case that they're using as a baseline for NPC behavior. Like, IIRC one of the first things to be designed in The Sims was the toilet, because it was such a complex item; It refills needs, men use it one way and women another, it can get dirty lowering room stats, it needs to be cleaned. Basically the toilet in The Sims encapsulated how many gameplay elements worked, so it was one of the first items to be worked on. I think CIG is treating the cafeteria scene similarly, it contains many of the elements that they've talked about in their NPC behavior Of course, even my speculation is true, this still isn't a very rosy picture for CIG, because that would mean that watching a half dozen NPC's eat lunch shows much of their core NPC behavior elements. Not exactly a living breathing universe. Also, that it's still being worked on, even now, five years into development is... worrying, to say the least.
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Thoatse posted:This is peak Dyson It's different applications of one technology, which is the brushless motor, or the thing that makes drones. From the bladeless fan (the blades are in the base), to the hand dryer (It's an awkward handdryer with high pressure air) and the hand vacuum (Brushless motor in a tube). Seriously, I was a huge fan of the DC01, but everything since coming up with the graduated vortex (and this was nicked from industry; a cyclonic separators are common for sorting particulates) has been a retread of a single thing.
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May 5, 2017 18:45
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Thoatse posted:This is peak Dyson OTOH, thanks to that video, I got curious, and if I had any maker skills at all, I could now build one.
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May 5, 2017 18:47
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Viscous Soda posted:Okay, I can't really believe I'm going to do this, but I'm going to sorta defend CIG here. I get what your saying, but your example is the Sims. The core gameplay mechanics revolve around the interactions that you mentioned in the toilet, but those interactions exist throughout the rest of the game. So it takes forever to design that system, but then it's used in pretty much every other room. Contrast to Star Citizen, who are really working hard on that cafeteria scene, but unless we've massively misunderstood things, the core gameplay of Star Citizen does not revolve around the cafeteria.
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May 5, 2017 18:51
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May 5, 2017 18:55
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Drunk Theory posted:I get what your saying, but your example is the Sims. The core gameplay mechanics revolve around the interactions that you mentioned in the toilet, but those interactions exist throughout the rest of the game. So it takes forever to design that system, but then it's used in pretty much every other room. Contrast to Star Citizen, who are really working hard on that cafeteria scene, but unless we've massively misunderstood things, the core gameplay of Star Citizen does not revolve around the cafeteria. Oh, you didn't see the RTV on the gameplay change?
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May 5, 2017 19:00
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Lethality: Marketing genius. Customer _retention_ is a thing, but once they're gone, it's harder to get them back. That's what the perceived value is for. Hav fucked around with this message at 19:07 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 19:03
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Samizdata posted:Oh, you didn't see the RTV on the gameplay change? Hmm. Is it now cafeteria simulator? Because I could totally get behind simulating a bleak existence as a can't retire cafeteria worker in a middle school
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May 5, 2017 19:03
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Drunk Theory posted:Hmm. Is it now cafeteria simulator? The C in SC is NOT for Citizen. Can't WAIT for the ultimate fidelity of ladling mac and cheese! You have to work 8 hours in RT or you lose your job and can't afford your wankpod. The FPS action comes in when tracking down malcontents that skip the cashier...
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May 5, 2017 19:06
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Drunk Theory posted:I get what your saying, but your example is the Sims. The core gameplay mechanics revolve around the interactions that you mentioned in the toilet, but those interactions exist throughout the rest of the game. So it takes forever to design that system, but then it's used in pretty much every other room. Contrast to Star Citizen, who are really working hard on that cafeteria scene, but unless we've massively misunderstood things, the core gameplay of Star Citizen does not revolve around the cafeteria. Minimum Viable Pcafeteria The P is silent 
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May 5, 2017 19:10
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Wow. I love it when CIG people show no respect to backers. Just got this in my email....
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May 5, 2017 19:11
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Mods please change my name to "Posting In A Hostile Manner"
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May 5, 2017 19:14
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Minimum Viable Pcafeteria Cut that alien language crap out RIGHT NOW! I am UEC and this is a UEC site! SPEAK UECian (or whatever they call it) LIKE A REAL CITIZEN!
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May 5, 2017 19:13
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Viscous Soda posted:Okay, I can't really believe I'm going to do this, but I'm going to sorta defend CIG here. it was supposed to have dozens of NPCs, all with their own personalities and you can interact with them in various ways and then you get called into battle they've been working on this one loving scene for over 18 months for about 20 minutes of gameplay
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May 5, 2017 19:17
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https://twitter.com/giogetmoneyTV/status/860255845115981824 https://twitter.com/dawnofevil/status/860403112879771648 https://twitter.com/TarkaRoshe/status/860439334960451584
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May 5, 2017 19:16
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Hav posted:It's different applications of one technology, which is the brushless motor, or the thing that makes drones. As an amateur aerodynamics dork that also has dabbled with min/maxing HVAC systems for grow rooms and glass/welding shops, nothing I've seen made by dyson rubs me as anything but a dumb gimmick/existing technology repackaged in a way attempting to make it appear futuristic but work markedly worse. It's ironic, because of my engineer oriented friends I think I'm the only artistically inclined and also the only one that even cares about aesthetics. Functional>Looks Rad!>Inexpensive: you can only pick 2 If CIG actually manages an MVP they will basically be the dyson of games but every day they are looking more like Theranos.
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May 5, 2017 19:19
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TheAgent posted:the reason you're seeing so much cafeteria stuff is that there's a big mess hall scene in sq42 (probably several, but the leaks back mid last year only talked about one scene) BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO SPOIL ANYTHING! 
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May 5, 2017 19:17
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Oh, is that the new defense now? Other games have referral programs so why isn't anyone complaining?
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May 5, 2017 19:17
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Yo don't quote me on this but I heard that some pedophiles also happen to be redditors we should archive and be wary of all of them. All. Of. Them.
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May 5, 2017 19:18
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If I had the choice of playing Star Citizen or chilling in a cafeteria I'd be grabbing a coffee, so for once I think CIG have their priorities in order
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May 5, 2017 19:21
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Drunk Theory posted:Oh, is that the new defense now? Other games have referral programs so why isn't anyone complaining? It's closely related to the 'calling Elite bad makes Star Citizen good' gene
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May 5, 2017 19:22
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the gently caress is wrong with these people https://twitter.com/CliffordakaMiku/status/858060291019616256/
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May 5, 2017 19:25
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LOL. How hard is this dickhead projecting here?
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May 5, 2017 19:25
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TheAgent posted:the reason you're seeing so much cafeteria stuff is that there's a big mess hall scene in sq42 (probably several, but the leaks back mid last year only talked about one scene) So the real question is, what movie or sci-fi property did Chris Roberts crib the mess hall idea from? Is Pusher going to shank someone and shout "YOU'RE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME" ?
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May 5, 2017 19:24
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Thoatse posted:As an amateur aerodynamics dork that also has dabbled with min/maxing HVAC systems for grow rooms and glass/welding shops,  Thoatse posted:nothing I've seen made by dyson rubs me as anything but a dumb gimmick/existing technology repackaged in a way attempting to make it appear futuristic but work markedly worse. Yep. I'm really critical of the airblade for having the ergonomics of a brick. It's vaguely unusable. Drunk Theory posted:Oh, is that the new defense now? Other games have referral programs so why isn't anyone complaining? The first defense is usually 'Everyone else was killing jews, so I went along with it'. (Example may contain hyperbole.) tooterfish posted:LOL. How hard is this dickhead projecting here? Before or after the libel?
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May 5, 2017 19:26
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Sarsapariller posted:So the real question is, what movie or sci-fi property did Chris Roberts crib the mess hall idea from? Is Pusher going to shank someone and shout "YOU'RE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME" ?
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May 5, 2017 19:25
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TheAgent posted:I'm assuming aliens Aliens 3, or Guardians of the Galaxy has the prison break. I'm now wondering how the events of Squadron 42 would look like from the salad station in the cafeteria.
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May 5, 2017 19:30
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Hav posted:Before or after the libel?
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May 5, 2017 19:32
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TheAgent posted:the gently caress is wrong with these people And that doesn't track the fruit baskets and other poo poo he sends them weekly
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May 5, 2017 19:30
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I'm sure when his spaceship investment quadruples we'll be sorry
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May 5, 2017 19:34
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TheAgent posted:the reason you're seeing so much cafeteria stuff is that there's a big mess hall scene in sq42 (probably several, but the leaks back mid last year only talked about one scene) So, if we assume they are going to release roughly 1 minute of gameplay for every month they've worked on it, a Sq42 with say 20 hours of playable content would take them 100 years? 
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May 5, 2017 19:40
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TheAgent posted:the gently caress is wrong with these people Man, I can't wait to see their reaction when this poo poo-show collapses.
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May 5, 2017 19:40
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TheAgent posted:the reason you're seeing so much cafeteria stuff is that there's a big mess
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May 5, 2017 19:41
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TheAgent posted:I'm sure when his spaceship investment quadruples we'll be sorry Admittedly, once one of those $4,000 ships is worth $16,000 I will certainly sigh heavily while reaching into my wallet. Or I could play the game? Or CIG won't stop selling the ships and then backers will just say that its to allow them to pay for the servers. Probably that one.
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May 5, 2017 19:42
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big nipples big life posted:And that doesn't track the fruit baskets and other poo poo he sends them weekly This is one of the guys that should be under suicide watch. That's more than just a financial investment. Jobbo_Fett posted:Or CIG won't stop selling the ships and then backers will just say that its to allow them to pay for the servers. Probably that one. "Donate more and we finish quicker".
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May 5, 2017 19:43
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how is it that people profit on the grey market when there is no real shortage of ships or features and you'd just have to wait until they put everything on sale again
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TheAgent posted:the gently caress is wrong with these people Someone ask him if he owns his own home, or is still renting.
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