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216A
May 27, 2008

by Modern Video Games
Thanks, always detested Caesers, I'll try Aria. Normal MGM marker rules?

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Baddog
May 12, 2001

216A posted:

Thanks, always detested Caesers, I'll try Aria. Normal MGM marker rules?

Aren't the marker rules pretty standard? Couple weeks to pay back, they don't like you using it at other casinos or poker/sports but they don't really enforce, and they might ask you to pay it off if you are up big.

Something else I don't know about?

216A
May 27, 2008

by Modern Video Games

Baddog posted:

Aren't the marker rules pretty standard? Couple weeks to pay back, they don't like you using it at other casinos or poker/sports but they don't really enforce, and they might ask you to pay it off if you are up big.

Something else I don't know about?

MGM was always a pretty straight 10 large min. I generally just wire in advance, as opposed to credit, which is very doable with bigger places. I don't understand how you could use it somewhere else, short of drawing and then cashing out. Which seems like a dick move.

Baddog
May 12, 2001

216A posted:

MGM was always a pretty straight 10 large min. I generally just wire in advance, as opposed to credit, which is very doable with bigger places. I don't understand how you could use it somewhere else, short of drawing and then cashing out. Which seems like a dick move.


A marker is a line of credit (actually I think in nevada it might be processed more like cashing a check, with the processing on their part delayed, which is even less of a favor to you). Either way I don't see how its really a dick move. The casinos would like you to *think* its a dick move and stay in their spot, but whatever. If you don't want to cash in some chips to hit a new place, you used to be able to exchange foreign chips without much fuss, I dunno if that has changed recently. Go to the cage if you are trying to do a significant amount. I don't think you have to have a story or anything, but you can always say you came over for dinner and you decided you want to play here for a bit, can you switch chips?

I think you tend to get better host recognition with a marker as opposed to wiring in cash, maybe because they feel you're more likely to get sucked in. They usually forward me to a host as soon as they get the information to set up or refresh the line. But if you're playing those limits, I don't think you're going to have any issues anyways. A hand of baccarat should be comped better than blackjack right? Maybe its often a bit slower game, but the edge is worse. 500/hand should get you some nice comps even at an MGM property!

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

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Tickets bought (Southwest direct!), hotel reserved (Wynn package with "complimentary room upgrade"), and overpaid for David Guetta at EBC but excited!

Are there any draw backs to the Day Club crawls? Specifically https://www.groupon.com/deals/turnt-up-tours-2

Definitely going to try the $20 trick and will report back.

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



xaarman posted:

Tickets bought (Southwest direct!), hotel reserved (Wynn package with "complimentary room upgrade"), and overpaid for David Guetta at EBC but excited!

Are there any draw backs to the Day Club crawls? Specifically https://www.groupon.com/deals/turnt-up-tours-2

Definitely going to try the $20 trick and will report back.

$20 will barely get you a side of bacon from room service at the Wynn. GL sir.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



xaarman posted:

Are there any draw backs to the Day Club crawls? Specifically https://www.groupon.com/deals/turnt-up-tours-2


The venues they go to are awful.

Meefy Bread
Apr 4, 2005

lol i can cast spells
Heading to Vegas at the end of the month with about sixteen other people, staying at the Flamingo.

We're wanting to see Absinthe while there as I've heard nothing but good things -- should I definitely buy these tickets in advance or might I reasonably expect to get tickets the day of at one of the half price booths or box office?

As for food, probably going to try to head to Lotus of Siam at some point. Beyond that, I'm looking for restaurant recommendations at the $50/head price range. Any pointers?

Going with a crowd who've frequented Vegas many times, though none have been in the past ~3 years. What's new that we shouldn't miss this trip? We're all around 30 and basically up for anything be it gambling, drinking, clubs, shows, sights, whatnot. Conversely, what's new that we shouldn't get sucked into because it's overrated, a rip-off, or just bad?

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

Pakistani Brad Pitt posted:

$20 will barely get you a side of bacon from room service at the Wynn. GL sir.

How disappointing. Guess that's what I get for going for the "nice" hotel.

JaySB posted:

The venues they go to are awful.

Again, how disappointing.

fordan
Mar 9, 2009

Clue: Zero

xaarman posted:

Again, how disappointing.

There were some on the "these are some of the dayclubs we've gone to recently!" list that weren't terrible, but they were in the minority. And also likely not the clubs they go to on a regular basis. Although I went to Yelp expecting to see some amusingly bad reviews for "Turnt Up Tours" but they actually seem mostly positive, so who knows?

I have to admit I've always wondered if the pool/dayclub associated with the Sapphire strip club is as awful as I imagine it being since that's apparently one of their options.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Yeah they have the worst name but best reviews...and no small amount either, all raved about on Trip Advisor, groupon and Yelp.

That second place sounds like a fun place to go!

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012

Pakistani Brad Pitt posted:

$20 will barely get you a side of bacon from room service at the Wynn. GL sir.
I have not found this to be true. I would not expect to move from the boiler room to the penthouse, but in my recollection I have never had the $20 trick not work. I have moved from a mediocre desert-view room to a mediocre strip-view room, or from a desert view low floor to a desert view high floor, but the only times they've done *nothing* for me (which is rare), they give the $20 back.

geese
May 29, 2007

This goose is cooked.
Just got back from a 4-night trip from western Canada to Vegas from Sunday - Thursday. The crazy wind storm on Thursday delayed our flight home but otherwise we had a great time.

We stayed at the Signature per this thread's recommendation. We probably saved $30+/day on food and beer just by having the little kitchenette with a fridge. $20 got us an upgrade from a low-floor to a penthouse room with a strip view on the 37th floor.

A highlight was the Neon Museum, just a little north of Fremont Street. We did a nighttime tour and it was really interesting to see the old signs and we learned a lot about Vegas history. I found Fremont Street itself kind of underwhelming, but the best meal we had was at the BBQ place in the Container Park just east of the Fremont Street Experience.

Meefy Bread posted:

We're wanting to see Absinthe while there as I've heard nothing but good things -- should I definitely buy these tickets in advance or might I reasonably expect to get tickets the day of at one of the half price booths or box office?

We got Absinthe tickets for a Wednesday 10pm show at one of the Tix-For-Tonight booths on the day of the show. They were just under $100 for tickets that would usually cost $120-ish. I imagine it would be harder to get tickets on Thursday-Sunday when the weekend crowd is around.

Mourne
Sep 1, 2004

by Athanatos
Trip report!

OK, so I'm back from 5 nights at the cosmo in a wraparound terrace suite. Tried the 20$ trick at check-in, not sure what that got me -- wasn't a room upgrade because we didn't have a view of the Bellagio fountains. Maybe they waived some resort fees? I still see a 40$/day charge for wifi on my check-out bill. Checked in on a Tuesday evening, wasn't too terribly busy, but there still was a line.

Dinner at L'Atlier at MGM was out of this world. Did a 6-course tasting menu (without wine) for two, and ended up spending ~500$ with tip. Worth every penny. That was the meal of a lifetime, and the service was impeccable. Thanks for the recommendation Jay!

I played a decent amount of craps while I was there. The cosmo only has 10$ tables until about 11am and then they go to 15$ until about 3pm, then they go to 25$. Aria always had 10$ tables and was right next door. Also saw 5$ tables at Caesar's.

Dealers at the Cosmo were not very friendly/nice. And one Dealer, Tim, was downright rude. Basically, any other casino had better dealers, at least for craps tables.

We also ate at RM seafood at Mandalay Bay -- did a 3 course pre fixe lunch special for 28$/person. Was absolutely excellent. Highly recommended. Also ate at the Herringbone at Aria, my crab cake there wasn't very good...it had like lays potato chips on it. But my wife got the buffalo squid, and that was spectacular.

Eggslut at the cosmo for breakfast when hungover was amazing, you have to try the Slut there.

We saw Britney at PH at my wife's behest. I wasn't impressed, but she loves "the Queen of Pop" so whatever. I want my 300$ back, but if she's happy, whatever. Also did Shark Reef at Mandalay (waste of $, was not impressed) and then bodies and titanic at Luxor. Titanic was kinda cool, but Bodies wasn't very special. Wife and I were both hard science majors, so we've seen all of that before.

The forum shops at Caesar's was pretty cool, definitely worth a few hours in an afternoon or evening to check that out. The conservatory at the Bellagio at night was pretty impressive.

Also had tickets to XS to see David Guetta, but ended up just not going. My wife is a wuss and doesn't tolerate heels very well :rolleyes: so there was no way she was gonna be able to stand for 4 hours.

All in all, a pretty great trip! I wouldn't do more than 5 nights, though. We were pretty beat by Friday afternoon and we arrived Tuesday evening. I'm not sure if we were trying to do too much, or what.

Mourne
Sep 1, 2004

by Athanatos

geese posted:

The crazy wind storm on Thursday


Power went out for a bit at the Cosmo during that, was weird when all those emergency strobes came on.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Mourne posted:

Dinner at L'Atlier at MGM was out of this world. Did a 6-course tasting menu (without wine) for two, and ended up spending ~500$ with tip. Worth every penny. That was the meal of a lifetime, and the service was impeccable. Thanks for the recommendation Jay!

All in all, a pretty great trip! I wouldn't do more than 5 nights, though. We were pretty beat by Friday afternoon and we arrived Tuesday evening. I'm not sure if we were trying to do too much, or what.

Glad you enjoyed it. Chef is leaving the restaurant to open up the Waldorf Astoria in LA this week so you got to have one of his last meals there. Hope you were able to sit at the counter.

I feel like that's a syndrome of a lot of vacations. People try to take it all in and forget to relax. I, however, am a lazy piece of poo poo on vacation. Next time you're back take a day to just relax by the pool, hit a spa, and have room service in bed. You'll feel refreshed.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



xaarman posted:

Yeah they have the worst name but best reviews...and no small amount either, all raved about on Trip Advisor, groupon and Yelp.

That second place sounds like a fun place to go!

The people that purchase these types of tours don't know any better so it's probably the best experience they've ever had. That or the reviews are likely fake.

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



photomikey posted:

I have not found this to be true. I would not expect to move from the boiler room to the penthouse, but in my recollection I have never had the $20 trick not work. I have moved from a mediocre desert-view room to a mediocre strip-view room, or from a desert view low floor to a desert view high floor, but the only times they've done *nothing* for me (which is rare), they give the $20 back.

I've never done this $20 business so I wouldn't know either way. Really I think I wanted to bitch about the room service prices at the Wynn, dear lord.

Meefy Bread
Apr 4, 2005

lol i can cast spells

geese posted:

We got Absinthe tickets for a Wednesday 10pm show at one of the Tix-For-Tonight booths on the day of the show. They were just under $100 for tickets that would usually cost $120-ish. I imagine it would be harder to get tickets on Thursday-Sunday when the weekend crowd is around.

Ah, got it! We will be seeing it on a Saturday night so will pre-purchase the tickets then. General reserved seating is going for $97 on vegas.com at the moment. Thanks for the info!

How did you like the show?

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Absinthe is the best show in Vegas. Spend the extra money to sit within the first few rows

geese
May 29, 2007

This goose is cooked.

Meefy Bread posted:

Ah, got it! We will be seeing it on a Saturday night so will pre-purchase the tickets then. General reserved seating is going for $97 on vegas.com at the moment. Thanks for the info!

How did you like the show?

Absolutely go see it! We also saw the Cirque Beatles show and it was great, but during Abisnthe you actually feel like you're a part of it and not just a spectator.

Meefy Bread
Apr 4, 2005

lol i can cast spells

JaySB posted:

Absinthe is the best show in Vegas. Spend the extra money to sit within the first few rows

geese posted:

Absolutely go see it! We also saw the Cirque Beatles show and it was great, but during Abisnthe you actually feel like you're a part of it and not just a spectator.

Awesome, thanks for the tips! Super excited now.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Anyone wanna split couch service? lol

quote:

My name is Phil Carter and I am a VIP Host Manager for Encore Beach Club and Surrender Nightclub located in the Wynn Resorts of Las Vegas. I received an inquiry from Ralph from concierge in regards to an inquiry that you made for a possible reservation. A reservation for the beach club requires a minimum spent for the day. I have listed a couple options below for the date requested:

April 30- Encore Beach Club- David guetta

Beach couches start at a $1500 f&b minimum spent. Admission included up to 6
Daybeds start at $2500 food and beverage minimum spent. Admission included up to 8

Minimums do not include tax or gratuity.

Our bottle selection ranges in price starting around $700+ for standard liquors, with some of our specialty champagnes at over $5000 each. Upon arrival to the venue, a menu will be presented to you with list of bottles, food, and prices.

Minimums may increase the closer we get to the date of the event, we always recommend booking early to lock in the lowest price point available. To lock the minimum in would require my office to send over a credit card authorization form, which are location / minimum specific. I will have them sent over to you upon request.

On another note, if you wish to go to any nightclubs or other day clubs while on your stay, I have a great network in Las Vegas and will be more than happy to point you in the right direction.

If you have any questions or would like to make a reservation, do not hesitate to shoot me a text, give me a call or reply to this email! I can be reached 24 hours a day, 7 days a week at this email or my cell at

And probably will go see Absinthe, but want to buy in person to avoid all those lovely Ticketmaster fees.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Phil is good people. I opened EBC and Surrender with him. All of the points detailed in that email are valid.

Slash
Apr 7, 2011

Best value helicopter flight to the Grand Canyon from Vegas?

Ally McBeal Wiki
Aug 15, 2002

TheFraggot
Just back in. Brief trip report.

Lotus of Siam, still delicious. Get a reservation.

The soon to be new owner of Oak and Ivy knows what he's doing with cocktails. Container Park is not cool at all, but he's a great host and bartender, same with the other dudes.

Beatles LOVE is good. Worth the $100.

Ellis Island seems to be the only place anywhere near the strip with $5 craps minimums. $10 seems to be the new $5 everywhere else actually on the Strip. Dealers were friendly as hell. Beers brewed in house still delicious, still $2.25 at the bar.

Sushi Roku, delicious.

Monday night DJ at Marquee was lol bad. Top 40 and garbage top 40 90s music, and like talking over choruses and doing shout outs over his own drops and poo poo, and would completely cut the music to say some nonsense. Saturday there was fun at least.

Ally McBeal Wiki fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Apr 12, 2017

Mourne
Sep 1, 2004

by Athanatos

Ally McBeal Wiki posted:

Just back in. Brief trip report.

Ellis Island seems to be the only place anywhere near the strip with $5 craps minimums.


Go to Caesar's. Through the main casino and towards the Forum shops, there's a second casino that has one craps table. It was a 5$ table on Saturday around 7pm.

Mourne fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Apr 13, 2017

Ally McBeal Wiki
Aug 15, 2002

TheFraggot

Mourne posted:

Go to Caesar's. Through the main casino and towards the Forum shops, there's a second casino that has one craps table. It was a 5$ table on Saturday around 7pm.

Thank you!

Cormack
Apr 29, 2009

fordan posted:

Sorry for the late reply... Pre-sale tickets were mentioned, but at a number of the clubs the pre-sale and GA lines are the same, at least until you get to the cash registers. Getting in quickly is going to be more a factor of showing up early before the club fills up and the line slows to a crawl. Another option is to arrange a "handshake" entry with a club host where you tip to bypass the line. You may also be able to find 1-bottle tables on non-weekend days, although that's still going to be $600+. Most of the actual guest lists I know of are for hot girls (especially in groups) that are getting free entry and sometimes at least an hour of open bar to show up relatively early and get the party going.

In terms of clubs, the newest major club is Omnia in Caesars. I haven't been but I've heard it's flashy and fairly GA friendly. I'd probably recommend XS over Marquee or Hakkasan for GA, XS has spaces inside where you can see the DJ without being on a table or the dancefloor, whereas Marquee inside has a tiny dancefloor tables, and the "ring of death" walkway where you need to keep walking or the bouncers will ask you to keep moving. There is lots of space outside by the Marquee pool though. If you like hip-hop Drai's can be a good time.

Another option is Marquee Dayclub; they have a dome over their pool to keep it warm during the winter and early spring. The minimums to get a daybed or a chair/pool chaise are usually a lot lower than a table at the nightclubs and you can spend it on food and pitchers of drinks, not just bottles.

Bought vouchers to Omnia on a Tuesday night, got right in and had a pretty much optimal Big Dumb Vegas Club experience. The view over the strip was nice, with a big enough crowd to get a good dance floor going but not enough to get that oh god I can't move in this club feeling. The video setup and orbital chandelier thing were pretty cool, plus it shot compressed air instead of fire, which was a nice bonus.

Other random stuff:

Raku was really excellent and worth going to. Fremont Street had a charmingly skeezy feel to it, Bouchon is the best place for brunch as always, Penn & Teller are getting a bit of old author syndrome, Zombie Burlesque was pretty fun, MGM Signature is a wise choice, and the Pinball Museum remains the best entertainment value you will find in the city.

Comptroll The Forums
Apr 25, 2007

DON'T HURT MY FEE FEES!

JaySB posted:

Absinthe is the best show in Vegas. Spend the extra money to sit within the first few rows

See, I respectfully disagree on that one. The front rows are all crammed together. I sat in one of the barber's chairs in the back. View was fine (the back row is only, what 40 feet away from the stage anyways?) and the seat was real comfortable.

Completely agree that it's the best show though, really any seat is worth it.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Comptroll The Forums posted:

See, I respectfully disagree on that one. The front rows are all crammed together. I sat in one of the barber's chairs in the back. View was fine (the back row is only, what 40 feet away from the stage anyways?) and the seat was real comfortable.

Completely agree that it's the best show though, really any seat is worth it.

The chance for audience interaction is significantly higher in the front rows though. I've gotten the 4 top table before and that was the absolute best.

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012

JaySB posted:

The chance for audience interaction is significantly higher in the front rows though. I've gotten the 4 top table before and that was the absolute best.

Do you have any in's for tickets there? I'll be in town in a week or two.

cosmic gumbo
Mar 26, 2005

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If I am going to Vegas for just Saturday night do you think I'd have better luck/get a better price if I book directly through the hotel and trying the $20 trick or just waiting until day of and using an app like hotelstonight to get a decent deal.

a drink or two
Oct 21, 2008
Any recs for cheap/mid-priced food? Specifically looking for "American" or regional cuisines of the Americas i.e. Mexican, Creole, Peruvian, whatever. Looking for lunch and dinner, up to around $50pp for lunch and $100pp for dinner.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Uterine Lineup posted:

If I am going to Vegas for just Saturday night do you think I'd have better luck/get a better price if I book directly through the hotel and trying the $20 trick or just waiting until day of and using an app like hotelstonight to get a decent deal.

The $20 trick isn't going to get you a better price. It may get you a room upgrade. Saturday is probably the toughest night for it though.

Godline
Jun 17, 2013
Any good pool parties? kind of not my thing but the gang I'm going with want to do one.
I can always attempt to point them in the right direction whilst I go to the pinball / mob meseum!

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004
Is it even the $20 trick anymore or should it be upped to $50 to account for inflation?

I'll be in town for a conference, staying at the Flamingo, thinking of trying it on checkin.

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012
Flamingo I'd think $20 would work.

Couple weeks back I tipped $40 at Palazzo and got an upgrade from a big suite to a huge suite.

If it works at all (it sometimes doesn't work for various reasons which you cannot change), $20 of $50 wouldn't particularly matter.

RisqueBarber
Jul 10, 2005

Yeah I doubt there's a difference between $20 and $40. I think it just depends on the mood of whomever checks you in.

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coronaball
Feb 6, 2005

You're finished, pork-o-nazi!

maskenfreiheit posted:

Is it even the $20 trick anymore or should it be upped to $50 to account for inflation?

I'll be in town for a conference, staying at the Flamingo, thinking of trying it on checkin.

Ought to work for an upgrade to a GO room at Flamingo. Those have a TV in the bathroom, just in case you are incapacitated by the night before..

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