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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Vagina Jones posted:

That gods own party has some great policies in there...

- Will ensure all pornography will be 'opt-in' through ISPs, and registration of those who do so

The uk does this with mobile data plans and it's so loving annoying, especially since pornography includes any potentially 18+ content, such as... news.

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kaiwero
Aug 22, 2006
Yeah thought the UK had something for at least opting in... it's the "...and registration of those who do so" which I find funny...

Let's have a register we can name and shame citizens through! Surely they are as bad as a sex offender??

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Vagina Jones posted:

Yeah thought the UK had something for at least opting in... it's the "...and registration of those who do so" which I find funny...

Let's have a register we can name and shame citizens through! Surely they are as bad as a sex offender??

If pornography is illegal then anyone who sees any is a sex offender.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Why don't we just make sex illegal and be done with it? Remember, most children will one day grow up to have it, and we just can't risk that.

kaiwero
Aug 22, 2006
Hmmm well on the one hand they want to ban sex ed and promote abstinence only education which would help promote no sex ever... they also want to shut down sperm and egg donors, so they'll need to figure out where to get more humans from (excl. Immigrants who'll also be banned of course)

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
Let god figure that out

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Well, poo poo. The immigration changes they just brought in have wrecked my residency application- I'm not getting paid enough, because I'm in Dunedin and they pay arborists shite down here. Assuming they don't make things even more punitive in the next year I can still move somewhere that pays more, leaving behind my home and family, because I can maybe get an internal transfer to the one place in the country where they pay over the new limit- loving Auckland.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Crane Fist posted:

Well, poo poo. The immigration changes they just brought in have wrecked my residency application- I'm not getting paid enough, because I'm in Dunedin and they pay arborists shite down here. Assuming they don't make things even more punitive in the next year I can still move somewhere that pays more, leaving behind my home and family, because I can maybe get an internal transfer to the one place in the country where they pay over the new limit- loving Auckland.

This might be a terrible idea, but maybe try contacting the media?

"New immigration plan forces more workers to leave the regions for Auckland" would be a heck of a headline they'd love to throw around.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
I can't stop reading GOdsown as some sort of sports chant.

GOOOOOOOOOOO fightin' dsowns!

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

NZAmoeba posted:

This might be a terrible idea, but maybe try contacting the media?

"New immigration plan forces more workers to leave the regions for Auckland" would be a heck of a headline they'd love to throw around.

gently caress, that's a tempting one. Problem is it would probably inspire them to do something even more draconian in response to avoid getting outflanked by Winston 'The Great Satan' Peters talking about how 'tinkering round the edges' isn't working, stop the boats entirely

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

gently caress the boats won't someone do something about the planes?

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Crane Fist posted:

gently caress, that's a tempting one. Problem is it would probably inspire them to do something even more draconian in response to avoid getting outflanked by Winston 'The Great Satan' Peters talking about how 'tinkering round the edges' isn't working, stop the boats entirely

The reason they're giving for their policy is "we don't have enough infrastructure in Auckland for them right now" maybe some push back will get them to set different limits for the regions.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Varkk posted:

gently caress the boats won't someone do something about the planes?

Australian government in rational response to crisis

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




It's Anzac Day! Time for rugger!

‘I say it with some bitterness, Rugby is King and the dead are only bones’.

- Howard Kippenberger, Major General, NZ army c.1948. In response to the government refusing Maori rugby players to play on the South African tour. His anti tour stance was widely criticised by the public.

Fukin love rugby, and war, and beer.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Vagina Jones posted:

Hmmm well on the one hand they want to ban sex ed and promote abstinence only education which would help promote no sex ever... they also want to shut down sperm and egg donors, so they'll need to figure out where to get more humans from (excl. Immigrants who'll also be banned of course)

Well, they'll just go by the Jonestown methodology: Guy at the top announces himself savior, gets First night privileges and the right to rape as he fits. Pretty standard amongst these sorts.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

9th Floor interview with Shipley is out today. Does she, like Bolger, see that neo-liberalism has failed and we need to try something new?

Lol nope she thinks there needs to be more cuts to what she called middle class welfare. Especially things like student allowance and maybe even healthcare.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Duncan Garner is such a loving tool.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Ratios and Tendency posted:

Duncan Garner is such a loving tool.

This is true but what particular thing occasioned this?

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Varkk posted:

9th Floor interview with Shipley is out today. Does she, like Bolger, see that neo-liberalism has failed and we need to try something new?

Lol nope she thinks there needs to be more cuts to what she called middle class welfare. Especially things like student allowance and maybe even healthcare.

I've only had time to listen to the first two so far but they've been really interesting. I really didn't know the context to Rogernomics, so it's interesting to hear a guy defending it.

The Schwa
Jul 1, 2008

Varkk posted:

9th Floor interview with Shipley is out today. Does she, like Bolger, see that neo-liberalism has failed and we need to try something new?

Lol nope she thinks there needs to be more cuts to what she called middle class welfare. Especially things like student allowance and maybe even healthcare.

:chloe:

I'm just listening to Bolger now, looking forward to catching up.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



She'd have a point if there even were a middle class anymore.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

She said that she feels high income people like her should have the option of opting out of the public health system. The thing is you can by having private health insurance and going to private providers etc. What I suspect she really wants is to pay less tax so that the poors don't get their health care paid for on her (Tax payer subsidised) dime.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Varkk posted:

She said that she feels high income people like her should have the option of opting out of the public health system. The thing is you can by having private health insurance and going to private providers etc. What I suspect she really wants is to pay less tax so that the poors don't get their health care paid for on her (Tax payer subsidised) dime.

I might be being overly generous here, but she seemingly wants high-income people like herself to not be eligible to receive taxpayer subsidised healthcare at all? At least, that's how I'm taking it. Your interpretation is probably accurate, I just need more clarification.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf
It's just the same poo poo as people who don't want any of their tax money to go to schools if they send their kids to private school or have no kids at all, because they are an island and there's no such thing as society.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

But also if I lose all my money because of a dodgy investment well I paid taxes for years, I'm owed this.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Varkk posted:

She said that she feels high income people like her should have the option of opting out of the public health system. The thing is you can by having private health insurance and going to private providers etc. What I suspect she really wants is to pay less tax so that the poors don't get their health care paid for on her (Tax payer subsidised) dime.

I'm certainly hoping she practices Ayn Rand like she preaches. Mostly by getting excruciating lung cancer.

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyGND49CBYk

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

El Pollo Blanco posted:

I might be being overly generous here, but she seemingly wants high-income people like herself to not be eligible to receive taxpayer subsidised healthcare at all? At least, that's how I'm taking it. Your interpretation is probably accurate, I just need more clarification.

I think I'm safe in saying that you are definitely being over generous.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Best article I've read about Labour's immigration rhetoric: https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/27-04-2017/an-ugly-great-can-of-winston-the-inescapable-result-of-labours-immigration-push/

quote:

Instead of actually making this a debate about immigration policy, Andrew Little has made it about why immigrants are bad. In addition to attributing Auckland house prices to too many immigrants (which is entirely fair), Little has also been talking about how we issue 6,000 works visas for labourers, describing this as “rorts that allow low-skill people to get residency” (which is really not).

According to Immigration NZ’s 2015/16 data (which is presumably where Labour got its figures), 2200 of these labourers went to Canterbury. Many were scaffolders, steel fixers, and other labourers involved in the building industry. It’s exactly what the Essential Skill work visas were intended for: to bring in skilled workers to a part of New Zealand that needs it the most. It also illustrates why labelling all labourers as low-skilled is crude, wrong, and spectacularly ironic for a party called Labour.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

El Pollo Blanco posted:

I might be being overly generous here, but she seemingly wants high-income people like herself to not be eligible to receive taxpayer subsidised healthcare at all? At least, that's how I'm taking it. Your interpretation is probably accurate, I just need more clarification.

Another angle here, by making any and all public services something that's only for the poor, you make it easier to eventually disparage and demonise those services. People right now want their taxes to go to better schools and hospitals, but if you eventually rebrand those as "benefit health centers" and "mangy brat workhouses" defunding those services for the poor becomes a simpler political prospect.

It's why the total reverse, a UBI which goes to absolutely everyone regardless of circumstances whether they want it or not, is such a required aspect of the scheme. You have to erase that stigma.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

^also stripping funding from public services decreases their quality which then makes it easier to argue for their abolition.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Stave the "Beast" as you will.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
The middle class is petty and resentful, and unlike the poor they vote.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Pretty gutted to see Sue Moroney is retiring. She's one of the good ones

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Cadbury is converting the factory that it's closing into an attraction called Cadbury World. Really happy to see them making something good out of others' misfortunes.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Yeah but they got a chocolate waterfall, gonna gently caress up some fat german kids if they lucky.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

bike tory posted:

Cadbury is converting the factory that it's closing into an attraction called Cadbury World. Really happy to see them making something good out of others' misfortunes.

I mean they were like three quarters of the way there already, did you ever go on a tour of that place?

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
I went last year, it was a decent bit of fun. But the star attraction is the tower which drops poo poo loads of chocolate, can't imagine how that will work when the factory isn't there.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

In further tales of workers getting hosed over, a bunch of bus drivers are about to lose their jobs or get their wages cut in Wellington.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/92259994/change-of-provider-for-wellington-bus-contract

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Tui
Oct 26, 2016
Are questions that aren't about politics okay here?

I just wanted to ask if anyone here knows anything about the tenancy tribunal. How do they treat cases that are just being used to get back at someone?

I know it would be really hard to prove, but if it was proven do they take an extra hard stance against it at all?

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