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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Rough Lobster posted:

Everybody hosed the pig's face.

"The Life and Times of David Cameron"

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nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Senior Woodchuck posted:

Now I'm imagining some book written 2,000 years from now describing ridiculous sex acts being performed in the stands at an NFL game. Heaven only knows what future bullshit historians will say about the Dawg Pound.

"See, the Gulf War was just like a game of Wruejks-Hiegumsoe Tossing. On one side you've got Fluefloshe the Destroyer IV, at the height of its powers. On the other, you got GSV Irregular Apocalypse, at the the height of its powers ..."

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Rough Lobster posted:

"The position of Wide Receiver was exclusively granted to members of a class of amputee eunuchs. These slaves, having had both forearms removed for their crimes, were able to catch a FootBall thrown from hundreds of meters away with only their skilled and tractable anuses."

"Upon completion of the TouchDown ritual, it was not unusual for the scoring member to engage in a complex celebratory dance, often terminating with copious ejaculation."

"The FootBall (also known as a pig-skin) was the freshly severed head of a swine. Everybody hosed the pig's face."

Finally, a way to make football interesting.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Blood Bowl was a historical simulation.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

outlier posted:

GSV Irregular Apocalypse
Would a utopia like the Culture screw up history that badly?

Kilo147
Apr 14, 2007

You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

Alhazred posted:

"The Life and Times of David Cameron"

:drat:

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.
Sounds like I'm the one who got trolled wrt Mead's scholarship. Apologies and thank you for the correction.

Also those Roman histories are amazing.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


My sister picked up Laurell K Hamilton's Kiss the Dead from an op shop recently (since she likes supernatural romance stuff) but even by the standards of that genre it turned out to be especially bad. So after she finished it she gave it to me to read, and she wasn't kidding. Here's the blurb:

quote:

When a fifteen-year-old girl is abducted by vampires, it’s up to U.S. Marshal Anita Blake to find her. And when she does, she’s faced with something she’s never seen before: a terrifyingly ordinary group of people—kids, grandparents, soccer moms—all recently turned and willing to die to avoid serving a master. And where there’s one martyr, there will be more…

That all happens right at the start and then the majority of the book focuses on Anita personal life. She says at one point that she has seven boyfriends, but I'm pretty sure there were more than that. Plus one girlfriend. And all of them are either vampires or lycanthropes, many of them magically enslaved by her. But that's OK because "preternaturals" can't be allowed to be free, and actually they prefer it that way.

Which brings me back to the blurb and how these vampires are willing to die rather than serve a maaster. It sounds like it's going to be an analogy for real-world issues of slavery and civil rights, and it kind of is, except that the protagonist is firmly on the pro-slavery side. As well as being a US Marshal she's also a government-sanctioned vampire hunter, which gives her the freedom to just kill vampires and lycanthropes if she suspects that they've killed someone, are going to kill someone, might be thinking about killing someone or even saw another vampire/lycanthrope kill someone. Yes, as a vampire, witnessing a crime is also a crime, and the sentence is death.

And the book goes out of its way to tell you, over and over again, that if she invokes her right to kill vampires then she doesn't need any kind of evidence and there will be no investigation. Her word is good enough. She can also grant this same permission to cops she's with. And it also allows them to kill humans who are (or seem to be, or might have been) working with the vampires.

The whole message of the book is basically "some people aren't really people and it's OK to kill or enslave them, and in fact it's right to do so." Also there's a lot of really badly written, but very graphic sex, and endless references to the previous 20 (yes, 20) books in the series. Anyway, here are some quotes:

quote:

I knew without doubt that if any more of the vampires tried to attack us I’d kill them, too, regardless of apparent age, race, sex, or religious affiliations. I was an equal-opportunity executioner; I killed everybody.

quote:

Yeah, that's the group name for a bunch of vampires: a kiss of vampires. A gobble of ghouls, a shamble of zombies, and a kiss of vampires; most people don't know that, and the rest don't care.

quote:

Looking at the twenty or so frightened faces staring at me, I felt bad that they were afraid of me, but I knew that if they attacked us, I'd kill them. They should have been afraid—of me.

There's so much more, but it's hard to pick out the funny bits from the endless rambling and repetition. I wish I'd read an ebook version because then I could have copied them out as I went, but then I'd have had to actually pay money for it.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Tiggum posted:

most people don't know that, and the rest don't care.

Oddly enough I belong in both categories.

Anyway seems a lot like male action from the 70s and 80s except a lot worse.

e: They were usually under 200 pages though and I'm guessing this isn't?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Jerry Cotton posted:

e: They were usually under 200 pages though and I'm guessing this isn't?
360. It's not a particularly long book, but it seems longer because it's so repetitive.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Tiggum posted:

360. It's not a particularly long book, but it seems longer because it's so repetitive.

It's 360 pages long so you know to turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away when you see it. The next volume will be one page long. I'll just see myself out. :downsrim:

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Anita Blake books are freaking horrible. It takes a powerfully bad writer to combine a strong female character with lycanthropy, vampires, voodoo, Aztec gods, and soulless contract killers, and NEVER WRITE A SINGLE LINE THAT COULD PASS THE loving BECHDEL TEST.

e: Oh, and implied underage male-on-male rape.



jesus loving CHRIST

gleebster
Dec 16, 2006

Only a howler
Pillbug
You want the rape to be explicit?

IamnotJoe
Jul 24, 2005
Maybe Steve.

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Anita Blake books are freaking horrible. It takes a powerfully bad writer to combine a strong female character with lycanthropy, vampires, voodoo, Aztec gods, and soulless contract killers, and NEVER WRITE A SINGLE LINE THAT COULD PASS THE loving BECHDEL TEST.

e: Oh, and implied underage male-on-male rape.



jesus loving CHRIST

I have a friend that was pretty big into horror send me these books. I think it was like an omnibus and the first one being not bad. Kind of interesting actually, a detective who can talk to the dead in a world where the supernatural is real and a protected minority is very cool in theory. Then book two came about and we have werewolves sleeping in a puppy pile in the main characters bed cause she is the pack leader now. Also head vamp and head werewolf have the hots for her for some reason. I skimmed the next few books and it was just bad. It felt like her first book failed and she went full on smut to make money. I may be giving Hamilton to much credit.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

IamnotJoe posted:

I skimmed the next few books and it was just bad. It felt like her first book failed and she went full on smut to make money. I may be giving Hamilton to much credit.


The dialogue from this is all I think of every time I hear about those books. And for all Penny Arcade's flaws, they nailed it.

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

gleebster posted:

You want the rape to be explicit?

There is plenty of explicit rape in Anita Blake novels.

IamnotJoe posted:

I skimmed the next few books and it was just bad. It felt like her first book failed and she went full on smut to make money. I may be giving Hamilton to much credit.

If you know anything about the author it gets REALLY weird. The first 6 or so books were a team effort by Hamilton and her hubby (who was apparently very similar to Richard). Around book 6, the couple divorced and Hamilton started some poly thing with a new guy.....that happens to have the self-insert Micah in the books. As the books go on, you see a ton of clashes between Richard and Micah that always come down to Micah having the bigger dick, being better in bed, being more comfortable with Anita's sexuality, and being strong enough to be submissive to Anita.

It adds another layer of meanspiritedness to the books if you know that context.

IamnotJoe
Jul 24, 2005
Maybe Steve.

Dienes posted:


If you know anything about the author it gets REALLY weird. The first 6 or so books were a team effort by Hamilton and her hubby (who was apparently very similar to Richard). Around book 6, the couple divorced and Hamilton started some poly thing with a new guy.....that happens to have the self-insert Micah in the books. As the books go on, you see a ton of clashes between Richard and Micah that always come down to Micah having the bigger dick, being better in bed, being more comfortable with Anita's sexuality, and being strong enough to be submissive to Anita.

It adds another layer of meanspiritedness to the books if you know that context.

Goddamn it. Richard was the vampire guy right. I have tried hard to forget that series. I remember a scene where they were going to have a meeting of were people and the Swanmay prince showed up to hang out with a bunch of werewolves. It devolved into everyone trying to Anita and the prince. God that was stupid.

At my wifes request I have read the Kushiel Saga. :captainpop: At least she told me it was smut to begin with not, like the guy who gave me the ANita Blake novels, pretend it's just a genre novel.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Don't read Kushiel.

IamnotJoe
Jul 24, 2005
Maybe Steve.

Pick posted:

Don't read Kushiel.

Too late. We were dating. She could have told me to read a Bill O'Reilly book and I would have.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
The lady who wrote Kushiel also wrote a couple of books that are almost as shameless of a Lord of the Rings rip-off as Sword of Shannara, but in this version Sauron is the just-misunderstood god of sex and the world is bad because the other gods stabbed him in the dick. Also Frodo is a bushman. It's not the absolute worst piece of Tolkien fan fiction ever, but it may be the worst that ever got printed.

mania
Sep 9, 2004

Dienes posted:

If you know anything about the author it gets REALLY weird. The first 6 or so books were a team effort by Hamilton and her hubby (who was apparently very similar to Richard). Around book 6, the couple divorced and Hamilton started some poly thing with a new guy.....that happens to have the self-insert Micah in the books. As the books go on, you see a ton of clashes between Richard and Micah that always come down to Micah having the bigger dick, being better in bed, being more comfortable with Anita's sexuality, and being strong enough to be submissive to Anita.

It adds another layer of meanspiritedness to the books if you know that context.

There was a gap of about 4 books in between those two dudes. Book 6 or whenever it was that Hamilton and her husband divorced was when Richard the werewolf (based on ex-hubby) had a 180 character assassination in the book and when Anita (who looks a loooot like Hamilton) started banging the Jean Claude the vampire master. Micah the wereleopard turned up in book 10 and well despite Hamilton claiming otherwise since it's her new self inset guy, it reads like rape.

Hamilton also had another series that was actually just straight up erotica. Many old AB fans were hoping that she would channel all her sex poo poo into the Merry Gentry books and the AB books would be less poo poo, but welp. The Merry Gentry books were...something, the premise was that a special snowflake fairy princess is in a competition with her cousin for the throne and the first person to produce a heir wins. So Merry gets a literal harem of bodyguards to gently caress and they're all pretty motivated as the baby daddy will be crowned king when Merry takes the throne. Eventually Merry gets pregnant with twins. Who's the daddy? All of them! Each twin has three fathers.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Did Anne Rice's novels end up being mainly sex stuff? I'm only familiar with her work through stuff adapted from it (Interview With the Vampire) or stuff inspired by it (Forever Knight).

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

mania posted:

Each twin has three fathers.

Yeah, I saw this episode of X-Files too, and it did not end well

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Wheat Loaf posted:

Did Anne Rice's novels end up being mainly sex stuff? I'm only familiar with her work through stuff adapted from it (Interview With the Vampire) or stuff inspired by it (Forever Knight).

Thats the Sleeping Beauty Quartet which while hosed up, isnt as hosed up as other fantasy erotica aimed at women which is impressive.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Barudak posted:

Thats the Sleeping Beauty Quartet which while hosed up, isnt as hosed up as other fantasy erotica aimed at women which is impressive.

Wasn't that the one where she was subjected to more and more humiliating sexual experiences, culminating with having to have sex with... foreigners?!

Dienes
Nov 4, 2009

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College Slice

Wheat Loaf posted:

Did Anne Rice's novels end up being mainly sex stuff? I'm only familiar with her work through stuff adapted from it (Interview With the Vampire) or stuff inspired by it (Forever Knight).

Her latest book in the werewolf series includes a man lovingly explaining for a paragraph how his girlfriend's vagina is so much tighter when she's in werewolf form.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Pick posted:

Wasn't that the one where she was subjected to more and more humiliating sexual experiences, culminating with having to have sex with... foreigners?!

I dont remember the order of the various rapes, pony play, bestiality, and foreigner loving anymore but theyre all in there because if youre gonna write four books might as well go for broke, right?

Like the book Shiver where the protagonist is an uncontrollable literal mind-of-a-wolf wolf during certain seasons, murders the protags family, stalks her; then she fucks him cause shes into that.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Anita Blake books are like darker, and- did you now it was possible?- worse-written versions of the Sookie Stackhouse novels.

And they have something in common, which is a female character who is, like, the queen/most powerful consort/whatever of every weird subculture they encounter in the world.

Say what you will about Twilight, but at least Bella never becomes the queen of all the vampires.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Fleta Mcgurn posted:

Say what you will about Twilight, but at least Bella never becomes the queen of all the vampires.

Just wait until Meyer's Scrooge McDuck money pool runs a bit low.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Barudak posted:

Thats the Sleeping Beauty Quartet which while hosed up, isnt as hosed up as other fantasy erotica aimed at women which is impressive.

Isn't there a lot of if not non-consensual then coercive sex? Male and female in all combinations?

My knowledge of the Sleeping Beauty "quartet" (my, how pretentious) stems from a game I had with some friends: open one of the books at random and read what you find. From memory, it was almost always a sex scene, with lots of the the main character being humiliated and protesting but, nonetheless, "growing aroused" ...

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Wheat Loaf posted:

Did Anne Rice's novels end up being mainly sex stuff? I'm only familiar with her work through stuff adapted from it (Interview With the Vampire) or stuff inspired by it (Forever Knight).

IIRC the vampire stuff didn't have a lot of sex because her vampires are incapable of it.

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004
I unironically love all the books in the Kushiel series and I think they're really well written for "porn with plot" books. But the author also has a series that's a pretty blatant rip off of the Anita Blake series called Agent of Hel. I think the hot half-demon paranormal investigator protagonist has to choose between her werewolf and ghoul boyfriends. That's it. That's the entire series.

bean_shadow
Sep 27, 2005

If men had uteruses they'd be called duderuses.
KFC has released a Col. Sanders romance novel for Mother's Day. It's free on Amazon and is called Tender Wings of Desire.

Instead of, you know, improving their company.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!

Runcible Cat posted:

Just wait until Meyer's Scrooge McDuck money pool runs a bit low.

Nah, Meyer will never go there. But as for Twilight, it's just as excessive but in a very G-rated way. Oh sure, Bella ends up bound in the Temple married to Edward forever and ever, but she's "queen" in the sense that she's implied to be the best, most beautiful vampire ever, with the perfect husband and perfect child to boot. And money. A loooooooot of money.

It's kind of funny if you're into old school fandom wank and the sort of behavior that kills careers. Her former fans were pissed she didnt provide an explicit payoff after she danced around in interviews for years. Hell, people didn't expect to go the way of Anita Blake, but at some sort of romance novel schlock. Instead there's a stupid "Edward bit a pillow" and monster babies instead.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Gonna go back in time and give this to the actual Colonel

Have you seen his opinions on what KFC was like before he died? They were amazing he hated it so much

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Gonna go back in time and give this to the actual Colonel

Have you seen his opinions on what KFC was like before he died? They were amazing he hated it so much

Link please.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Conservative kook Ben Shapiro wrote a novel.


Here's Chapo Trap House reading some choice excerpts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYp_6DcUzbU

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Tunicate posted:

Link please.

My God, that gravy is horrible. They buy tap water for 15 to 20 cents a thousand gallons and then they mix it with flour and starch and end up with pure wallpaper paste. And I know wallpaper paste, by God, because I've seen my mother make it. ... There's no nutrition in it and they ought not to be allowed to sell it. ... crispy recipe is nothing in the world but a drat fried doughball stuck on some chicken.

As late as 1979 Sanders made surprise visits to KFC restaurants, and if the food disappointed him, he denounced it to the franchisee as "God-damned slop" or pushed it onto the floor.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
drat Interesting has a great article as well.

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:

Nah, Meyer will never go there. But as for Twilight, it's just as excessive but in a very G-rated way. Oh sure, Bella ends up bound in the Temple married to Edward forever and ever, but she's "queen" in the sense that she's implied to be the best, most beautiful vampire ever, with the perfect husband and perfect child to boot. And money. A loooooooot of money.

It's kind of funny if you're into old school fandom wank and the sort of behavior that kills careers. Her former fans were pissed she didnt provide an explicit payoff after she danced around in interviews for years. Hell, people didn't expect to go the way of Anita Blake, but at some sort of romance novel schlock. Instead there's a stupid "Edward bit a pillow" and monster babies instead.

You have a point. Either way, it's wish fulfillment for emotionally simple idiots.

Also, the best part of that fourth book was when they chew the baby out of her. I think I started laughing out of shock. To be honest, I kind of liked the fourth book. Or, rather, I would have if the final battle had been anything besides stupid perky Alice's stupid vision.

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